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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:41 am

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There's definitely some kind of PGO, Bomb or Announcer. Just has to be
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:58 am

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In post 100, furtiveglance wrote:There's definitely some kind of PGO, Bomb or Announcer. Just has to be
Well I’m scared now but I’m a compulsive and don’t want to protect a possible town nk but an SK might possibly exist due to Frogs’ role.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:01 am

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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:48 pm

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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:53 pm

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:53 pm

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Guide me Ranger. Lycanfire is not a VT if that interests you
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:26 pm

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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:35 pm

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You want to cooperate then. I do too, if we die we die and the other scumteam loses as well
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:36 pm

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CSF is the ultimate obvtown good reads amazing scumhunter D:

My one worry is a possible protecto
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:38 pm

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In post 108, furtiveglance wrote:CSF is the ultimate obvtown good reads amazing scumhunter D:

My one worry is a possible protecto
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:00 pm

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Protectives will be on Lycanfire given his end of day work.

We should be fine.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:55 pm

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what do you think about my night action? I've got 3 left to choose from. Roleblock, ascetic and hydra recruiter.

We could ascetic CSF to prevent protectives?
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:03 pm

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No, I'd pick hydra recruit.

Check for players in recently completed Theme Games, remove those who aren't the best at scum, and select from the remainder. Ideally, a game you were in.
{Something_Smart, fireisredsir, Datisi} are options from Warrior Cats (a game you were in).
{Radical Rat, Firebringer} are options from Cosmos Mafia (a game you were in).

There may be more options from those games or other games but as it's your decision, you'd be the best judge.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:12 pm

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In post 112, Ranger wrote:No, I'd pick hydra recruit.

Check for players in recently completed Theme Games, remove those who aren't the best at scum, and select from the remainder. Ideally, a game you were in.
{Something_Smart, fireisredsir, Datisi} are options from Warrior Cats (a game you were in).
{Radical Rat, Firebringer} are options from Cosmos Mafia (a game you were in).

There may be more options from those games or other games but as it's your decision, you'd be the best judge.
The thing with this is that there isn't much town motivation to choose it, unless I claimed that my role was just this ability.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:14 pm

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I am excited by hydra recruiter but I think I should use the more useful ones first.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:52 am

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I would rather use ascetic tonight on CSF, or if you don't want that, roleblock Lycanfire. We know they aren't VT.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:21 am

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In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:The thing with this is that there isn't much town motivation to choose it, unless I claimed that my role was just this ability.
You haven't been using your abilities in a remotely town way.

So just claim the hydraizer. That being the entirety of the role is something xyzzy has used before; having extra
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that would actually be suspect.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:31 am

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And why didn't I use it N1?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:07 pm

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In post 117, furtiveglance wrote:And why didn't I use it N1?
You can claim it was a N2 action.

xyzzy loves night-specific actions like N2 vig, N3 doctor, etc.

A N2 hydraizer is right up xyzzy's alley.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:49 am

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I'd much rather do something more useful. If the player I ask to hydra says no, I waste a night. And Roleblocker/Ascetic are actually useful.

I'm leaning towards ascetic on CSF, but also happy to RB Lycan since we know they aren't VT.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:05 pm

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Don't waste those actions.

You're not in immediate danger and we should use those actions only when we are sure we need them.

I suggested the hydra action specifically because we don't want to waste the useful actions yet.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:32 pm

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I'm glad we have a bit of time to talk about this.

1. Why do you think CSF isn't a likely protect target?

2. Why do you think Lycanfire isn't likely to be an investigative/also likely protect target? We know they aren't VT.

3. I think my fakeclaim works best as some kind of weird JoaT with weird actions. I could even trueclaim, I had RB and ascetic as the Novice JoaT in schadd's large game.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:26 pm

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I think CSF isn't a likely protect target because CSF wasn't the most crucial aspect of kitten around's elimination, and hasn't done the post-elimination analysis that Lycanfire did. Towns have recency bias. They'll remember Lycanfire's posts, but forget the posts prior to that. Especially given longer nights. Longer nights = shorter memory spans for TPRs.

Similarly, Lycanfire just went through the work to do all that analysis. That instantly makes them a protection target. While we know Lycanfire isn't vanilla, Lycanfire's analysis suggests not a protective role and not an investigative role. If Lycanfire were investigative, that analysis would be done after having investigating, not before. If Lycanfire were a protective, that analysis would put Lycanfire directly in the line of fire, and AS the protective, Lycanfire would know likely no protectives on them. Ergo, whatever role Lycanfire has, it's not a useful investigative; it's not a useful protective.

So we holster in targeting Lycanfire with anything until later.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:51 pm

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I could use an ascetic on you then, in case of a vig shot
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:24 pm

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