Open 869 | Fight for the Winter Court [Game Over!]

[Coral]

I think Coral would make this kind of suggestion as scum and after reviewing their answer I do scumlean this. I don't think she expected anyone to actually follow this and is mostly in it for the towncred.

My belief from previous runs is that scum struggled the most when town did unexpected things in the midgame. I think a rigid solve order does put all of the pieces on the table, which allows for the more chess-like analysis of how things develop, and that's valid.

I think the reason I lean towards wanting to inject some areas of unpredictability here is that we really only have very few points of information gain compared to a standard game.

The unpredictability happens mainly because players are open/talking and suddenly town players take the ball and individually run the other way unexpectedly. This is a function of the degree of transparency of the players, not of them hiding the ball.

Can you restate what you think my suggestion is? The way you're talking about it sounds different than what I mean to be saying, so maybe I miscommunicated.

You are right that I would say this as scum, but I do believe that it's pro-town and it doesn't seem at all unreasonable to expect that people would follow it, which is why I think maybe we're talking about different things?

[absinthe]

I'm sensing a pattern

[catboi]

everyone stop posting for an hour to force Prism into a nap. if we all work together we can do it! hold hands and sing along!

hm good idea I'm going to go watch kaiji

[Faker]

2) On day 2, I think it also benefits scum a lot if there is an open consensus about the

order

of resolving the locations. It allows them to plan ahead, plant associatives, and be prepared for what's coming. I suggest being flexible.

o h

yeah i thought you were talking about commentary on minigames

;_; okay i sleep i'm useless

[Faker]

i'll think on what you actually said and get back to you

[Chara]

i just want to be useful and not make aimless mech commentary while letting my eyes glaze over

is that so much to ask thing

(probably)

are you just pretending to be trying to leave only to come in with this Coral read? it feels like limp lettuce. if you're town you are a sleepy sleepy Faker who needs to sleep.

well, i an easy retail job, i've been medicated for a year now, and i'm enjoying my life. :> how are you catboi?

Glad to hear it! I'm doing fine myself, enjoying time off around the holidays, been gaming a little bit, was taking an enjoyable break from mafia (I was feeling fatigued) before I got yanked into this game by someone.

that's very nice to hear. i was also enjoying thinking i would never play mafia ever again.

pedit: lol

[Coral]

2) On day 2, I think it also benefits scum a lot if there is an open consensus about the

order

of resolving the locations. It allows them to plan ahead, plant associatives, and be prepared for what's coming. I suggest being flexible.

o h

yeah i thought you were talking about commentary on minigames

;_; okay i sleep i'm useless

yes, please sleep

I was not and certainly would not suggest that nobody talk about other games. Everyone should absolutely do as much of that as possible.

I just meant we shouldn't go into day 2 with a rigid resolve order and never waver from that.

[Chara]

absinthe townlean? i can throw that out there too.

[absinthe]

Even if we had a rigid resolve, there's the whole cat-herding thing. All it takes is a little impatience to lay waste to rigid plans.

[absinthe]

absinthe townlean? i can throw that out there too.

Do you know who I am? Just checking.

[Chara]

I'm sensing a pattern

would you share what you're referring to?

pedit: you're ffery, right?

[absinthe]

I'm sensing a pattern

would you share what you're referring to?

I was just referring to why so many retirees signed up for this game.

pedit: you're ffery, right?

Yes. The townlean surprised me a little. I don't recall being an easy early day one read for you in our 3-4 prior games.

[Chara]

like i said earlier, any meta i might have had is dried up. i do not remember a thing from our previous games together, or which ones we even played, barring that one secret alt game where i was scum.

[Faker]

okay i can't sleep but i'm going to be around watching and eating figurative popcorn, it's great to be here playing with y'all, i've missed this so much

[Coral]

glad you're having a good time!!

I feel less compelled to be full serious mode early now that it seems clear we don't have anyone itching to instalock, that was my main concern. I think catboi may have had the right idea with the banter approach

[Chara]

booooo, give me reads or give me death!

[absinthe]

like i said earlier, any meta i might have had is dried up. i do not remember a thing from our previous games together, or which ones we even played, barring that one secret alt game where i was scum.

Yggdrasil was our most recent game. morph hydra. Anything before FGO I is probably irrelevant.

But, I don't feel like I've done anything particularly town so far. I'm probably not as sleep deprived as Faker, but it has been a day.

[Coral]

I'm not sold on the full read silence part of it. some reads are probably necessary to progress the game

With the early flood of posts, I've barely been trying to sort people so far, really. I have a total of two slight leans, I think, maybe three

[Chara]

like i said earlier, any meta i might have had is dried up. i do not remember a thing from our previous games together, or which ones we even played, barring that one secret alt game where i was scum.

Yggdrasil was our most recent game. morph hydra. Anything before FGO I is probably irrelevant.

But, I don't feel like I've done anything particularly town so far. I'm probably not as sleep deprived as Faker, but it has been a day.

i appreciate the reminders, but i'm not planning on doing any metadiving this game, even to my own games.

i threw out the townlean to have something i find more useful to talk about on the table. you've been floating around making short comments here and there, most of them exceedingly neutral, with the one exception being that question to Coral about the other player at the Gate being confirmed scum to the not-conftown. it was a good question to ask, but not anything seriously AI.
so, not really a townlean, just wanted to see how you'd react to it.

[Coral]

I think the optimal approach here is to find all the scum day 1, then hard townread all of them, lock into the gate, and hope they make me IC for my wrong reads and then boom I turn on them

[Chara]

I'm not sold on the full read silence part of it. some reads are probably necessary to progress the game

With the early flood of posts, I've barely been trying to sort people so far, really. I have a total of two slight leans, I think, maybe three

is this the new style? :> we talk about

having

some kind of reads and then don't share them?

[Coral]

completely unrelated to my previous post, I hard townread Isis and Faker

[absinthe]

I have this odd feeling that skitter's *here*.

Demona seems sincere about being easily found as town, Do people who've played with them before agree?

Coral feels pretty town.

[Chara]

is skitter in the room with us right now?

Coral, tell us about your Isis read! please. :>

<3 absinthe for giving game thoughts. if i've played with shiki before i don't remember, need more data this game to decide how i feel about it.

[Faker]

i can't read shiki for SHIT but i remember reading something structurally like this from her so i'm inclined to take her at face value atm at my own peril