Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.02

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-18 11:30:00).

VC

Aisa [4]:

Bellaphant [17], Elements [77], Firebringer [80], BlueBloodedToffee [85]

Solway Firth [2]:

Aisa [5], Eiralox [11]

Frogsterking [2]:

Thestatusquo [8], Grib [59]

Grib [1]:

HighPrincessErinys [9]

Not_Mafia [1]:

Not_Mafia [78]

HighPrincessErinys [1]:

Frogsterking [92]

Not voting [2]:

Enchant, Solway Firth

Mod Notes

I'm the tyrant of Mini Normal 2283. Thou shalt not take my pagetops

Spoiler:

Flavor

Spoiler: The Thick of It

[Firebringer]

down with cat scratch fever and her tyrannical pagetop posts and unjust rules on being nice!

[Frogsterking]

I like Eira and Frog for early page 2 townreads.

god i got town. this game is going to be boring

seeing the playerlist this game probably wouldn't be amazingly fun in anyways.
[...]

I was going to say you're towny, too, but scratch that, I guess ;3

I used to scum read people for posting early reads like this but I was always wrong. I guess it's mostly intuition. My feeling this post reminded me of was sorting a town!Malakittens early.

[Frogsterking]

Hi everyone. I'm looking forward to playing with you all!

VOTE: Solway Firth
Sounds like a chemicals company tbh.

...and we cannot trust dem chemicals companies not to poison us all in our sleep.

It wasn't a part of why I town lean them but I used to scum read for posts like this too and it was always wrong.

[Frogsterking]

god i got town. this game is going to be boring

seeing the playerlist this game probably wouldn't be amazingly fun in anyways.
[...]

I was going to say you're towny, too, but scratch that, I guess ;3

This is probably the real point to towneead them though because they're trying to sort you here I think

[Firebringer]

posts 5 and 6 are openning rvs that mean nothing.
I don't see point in arguing this right now though so will refrain from pushing this further.
I think ur wrong right now but until i get a good case going not worth arguing over

[Frogsterking]

posts 5 and 6 are openning rvs that mean nothing.
I don't see point in arguing this right now though so will refrain from pushing this further.
I think ur wrong right now but until i get a good case going not worth arguing over

You think I'm wrong Town binning Aisa? Can you meta them?

[Firebringer]

post 36 feels nothing like a post sorting me and doesn't seem like genuine 2 reads either. Ill say that and leave it for now.

[Firebringer]

posts 5 and 6 are openning rvs that mean nothing.
I don't see point in arguing this right now though so will refrain from pushing this further.
I think ur wrong right now but until i get a good case going not worth arguing over

You think I'm wrong Town binning Aisa? Can you meta them?

we can have this argument another time

[Frogsterking]

You're speaking from experience though? I have not played with them before, only in games they've modded I think.

[Frogsterking]

Dude I'm not trying to argue with you I just want to know if you're familiar with their Town range because I am not

[Firebringer]

i have played one game with aisa. I am not making a case now i don't have one. I am not saying this is a meta read either. If you want to call it anything its gut. That is why i said lets have this discussion later because theres not much for me to discuss.

[Frogsterking]

i have played one game with aisa. I am not making a case now i don't have one. I am not saying this is a meta read either. If you want to call it anything its gut. That is why i said lets have this discussion later because theres not much for me to discuss.

Okay

[Frogsterking]

Are you Town leaning anyone that I'm not?

[Firebringer]

I only townread Grib so no.

[Grib]

Spoiler: Meta dump

[...]

Now with that said, what about you, Grib? What is your playstyle like in the early, mid and late game, and do you often get scum read for your tone as Town?

I used to have a bad habit of tunneling villagers Day 1 for early scum pings, so now I try to hang back, lob questions, not get too fixated on anything, and silently build a rough PoE to refine Day 2 and onwards. I like having a lot of interactions with as many people as possible, because Day 1 is the most important phase to me.

Middle game I try to push slots I have the most conviction in, or defend slots I really feel are scummy villagers coming under fire.

I don't like endgames because I panic and can't think clearly under that kind of pressure. I don't really have an endgame strategy, just try to reread with an open mind and lean on other villagers' readslists if there's any synergy there.

I'm a very easy townread for people who play with me often, but among strangers, I usually come under heavy pressure early- and mid-game. Honestly, I couldn't tell you why, it's been a long time since I played with mostly strangers (the last handful of years I played exclusively on two sites where roughly half the playerbase at any given time was very familiar with me), but some things I'd get criticized for is having waffly reads, having strong reads that didn't logically make sense to anyone else, fluffposting too much, and other random stuff. Then once scum start flipping, my interactions with them tend to clear me.

I do like Frog's response to me here but I really did not like the snap-Firebringer vote, which I'll explain a little bit later. I'm interested to see in what people have to say about it.

[Frogsterking]

I do like Frog's response to me here but I really did not like the snap-Firebringer vote, which I'll explain a little bit later. I'm interested to see in what people have to say about it.

I doubt others will comment on it, you may as well spill what you have to say.

[Grib]

I meant, what peopel have to say about it when I lay out the reasons. But you're right, I don't think I'm going to get much out of waiting.

The problems I have with that vote are

1) it was waaay too early to accuse Firebringer of not wanting to have reads.
2) it was also too early to accuse scum of not wanting to fill out your survey - barely half the game had posted at that time.
3) you didn't explain why scum would or would not interact with your quiz.
4) I purposefully ignored your quiz to see what you would do about it, and you didn't react at all, which makes me think that 2 was complete bull.
5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.

[Firebringer]

5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.

this is how i felt about my interactions with frog in the last 2 pages after i said he was scum and he changed it to town then said i have a good read of what he is doing.

now im just confused when half o what i said was like "ur trying to appear town and i don't know why" but i think he was going for "trying to create conversation out of nothing" agreeing with the latter but ignoring the former and was just trying to find common ground.

Im sitting her going ok. Why does it feel like ur buddying me and grib here.m.

I don't want to focus too much on frog though i think this thread could be exploding in too much posts if we just do this back and forth.

Frog doesn't make complete sense but im like less on scum lean than i was before. Still weak scum right now.

[Grib]

VOTE: Aisa

This disappoints me.

[Grib]

5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.

this is how i felt about my interactions with frog in the last 2 pages after i said he was scum and he changed it to town then said i have a good read of what he is doing.

now im just confused when half o what i said was like "ur trying to appear town and i don't know why" but i think he was going for "trying to create conversation out of nothing" agreeing with the latter but ignoring the former and was just trying to find common ground.

Im sitting her going ok. Why does it feel like ur buddying me and grib here.m.

I don't want to focus too much on frog though i think this thread could be exploding in too much posts if we just do this back and forth.

Frog doesn't make complete sense but im like less on scum lean than i was before. Still weak scum right now.

Literally, if it hadn't been for that vote, I think I would be townreading him here. There's too many red flags for me to give him the BOTD, but the phase is young.

[Frogsterking]

I used to have a bad habit of tunneling villagers Day 1 for early scum pings, so now I try to hang back, lob questions, not get too fixated on anything, and silently build a rough PoE to refine Day 2 and onwards. I like having a lot of interactions with as many people as possible, because Day 1 is the most important phase to me.

I can definitely relate to this.

If I see someone else doing this then I tend to hang back and clear the arguing pairs as TvT. If no one is doing that and I feel like nothing is happening I will lay into people based on pings and ask others for feedback if our argument looks TvT, and if I get told yes then I Town them regardless of how I feel.

My rationale for this is that it's really Pro town to have like 1 knucklehead go around accusing people because it helps everyone else get their early reads, and if no one else is doing that then I feel like it's best for me to do it myself and try to mitigate my bias as much as possible.

My general impression is that you are a more risk-averse player than I am, FWIW.

[Frogsterking]

I meant, what peopel have to say about it when I lay out the reasons. But you're right, I don't think I'm going to get much out of waiting.

The problems I have with that vote are

1) it was waaay too early to accuse Firebringer of not wanting to have reads.
2) it was also too early to accuse scum of not wanting to fill out your survey - barely half the game had posted at that time.
3) you didn't explain why scum would or would not interact with your quiz.
4) I purposefully ignored your quiz to see what you would do about it, and you didn't react at all, which makes me think that 2 was complete bull.
5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.

Well I--

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*tabs out*

[Firebringer]

I woudl like to hear more from aisa. Where did that rabbit run of to

[Grib]

Man, thank goodness the scumteam isn't Grib/Firebringer/Frog or this would be a really boring game. I know we just started but I expected more than only two other people to have some content worthy of chewing on by now.