[CHALLENGE] May Challenge
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Auro Survivor
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I was being cheeky, I had rounded down (2/3) to 66% and wanted to prove that there *does* theoretically exist an exact 66% protocol-
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Hm, you could fix that with giving scum hidden read-only access to the other neighborhoods which is in the spirit of mafia I think but isn't supported by ms.net software."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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You could simply add them, no? If they post in the hoods, they lose anyway - the responsibility of not slipping is fine I think.
Even then, there's a 2/3 chance where their hood internally proposes a number before both the others do. To be able to manipulate the sum of the 3 hood numbers they need to be exactly last.-
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Auro Survivor
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I'm assuming :In post 79, gobbledygook wrote:
>Full flips {alignment, role, poison stack}
>Usual day-night mechanics with the roles acting at night
>People don't know their poison stack
>Priority just decides action resolution.
I've re-ordered with {ascending poison counter, descending priority}. Does the trapperadd 1 to the poison stack of the player and all visitors, and it's single use?
If Singed targets Soraka, will it be redirected? No, because Soraka's priority is higher, right?
Will the Mafia NK appear the same as a Poison death?-
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Auro Survivor
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It's flipless! White Flag would be in the case that it's flips, so town never knows until game end which universe they're in.In post 80, Hectic wrote:This looks really cool lol. Don't flips hurt scum though? Why would you need to add a White Flag?-
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Losing 1/3rds of 67 brings you below 50 doesn't it?In post 103, Auro wrote:You could simply add them, no? If they post in the hoods, they lose anyway - the responsibility of not slipping is fine I think.
Even then, there's a 2/3 chance where their hood internally proposes a number before both the others do. To be able to manipulate the sum of the 3 hood numbers they need to be exactly last."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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You lose 2/3rds of 1/3 actually since the town in the hood can propose it, which places this at 52%. In practice the town member can just throw out a random number immediately instead of waiting which increases this-
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Submissions compiled, let me know if I missed anything or got anything wrong.
Spoiler: ceejayvinoya - Unnamed Semi-Open
Spoiler: Auro - Chromavalon
Spoiler: Isis - Solve This Game
Spoiler: callforjudgement - Wizards Versus Warlocks
Spoiler: mith - Delayed Flag Bearer Vengescum 13p
Spoiler: TemporalLich - Glimmer of Hope
Spoiler: Kerset - Sacrifice Our Leader
Spoiler: Hectic - Death Curse
Spoiler: Kanna - Trust Fall
Spoiler: Something_Smart - Guardians of the Fortress v2
Spoiler: Albert B. Rampage - Power Brokers
Spoiler: BBmolla - We Need A Fourth
Spoiler: gobbledygook - The Most Toxic Game on the InternetLast edited by Something_Smart on Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:07 am, edited 6 times in total.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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UpdatedIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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My setup shouldn't say "in pairs" on the vanilla townies, that's from revision soup."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Also just realized I wrote pops instead of Isis lolIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Why is may always stacked? I think there's at least three setups with more merit than an average monthly winner tbh"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Votes:
Something_Smart - Guardians of the Fortress v2
Kanna - Trust Fall
callforjudgement - Wizards Versus Warlocks
BBmolla - We Need A Fourth
Hectic - Death Curse
Albert B. Rampage - Power Brokers
Auro - Chromavalon
TemporalLich - Glimmer of Hope
ceejayvinoya - Unnamed Semi-Open
mith - Delayed Flag Bearer Vengescum 13p
gobbledygook - The Most Toxic Game on the Internet
Isis - Solve This Game
Kerset - Sacrifice Our LeaderLast edited by Something_Smart on Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:07 am, edited 2 times in total.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Voting seems difficult, I like a lot of the setups on different merits. Perhaps I'll just go with "I'm most likely to /in for this setup if I noticed it in the queue". Also, I wish there was a "worst setup" challenge.-
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UpdatedIn post 116, Hectic wrote:I'll submit Golden Fleece, Aa
Yeah that's pretty much what I went with as well.In post 117, Auro wrote:Voting seems difficult, I like a lot of the setups on different merits. Perhaps I'll just go with "I'm most likely to /in for this setup if I noticed it in the queue". Also, I wish there was a "worst setup" challenge.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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3. Sacrifice our Leader - I don't think I've seen an inventive twist like this in ages. And something very magnificent about this setup to me as a cult-hater is that it's not -really- a cult game. In a cult game, a day 1 mislynch can be a lynch if you go for the same player slot day 2. This is not the case here, it is slightly preferable to lynch cultists, but the megamislynch slot is the same the whole game through.
1. Death Curse - was going to note it not-first due to lingering concerns about nightless but then I realized it has 3 nights and that's plenty. Well, up to three, depends if scum get the third bite of the apple with the deathcurse. It's a mechanic that is meaningful but doesn't subvert the beauty of mafia.
2. Solve this Game - I think the twist is fun and I would actually queue for this. I think it's a gentler mind twist than Donnie Brasco
4. Trust Fall - This is really interesting and also it's a micro. Making something both ebonohar and vote for town might make it not mafia anymore but as a social deduction game it sure looks fun. It'd maybe be a better setup if it started with a lynch.
5. We need a fourth - inventive 3p with no visible breaks. It is tricky to score different playercount setups in the same contest, this probably has easier competition among 3p setups than the 13p setups do although I try not to play 4p
6. Delayed Flagbearer vengescum 13p - there's nothing wrong with this setup, just a solid setup. This is extremely mitigated Flagbearer mechanic but it's still Flagbearer which I don't love and pushes this down.
7. Guardians of the Fortress v2 - the wifom on whether the swap was necessary to balance scum isn't the kind I'd enjoy and pushes this down but everything else about the setup is wonderful
8. Glimmer of Hope - I remember pointing out a minor issue with the setup but the setup is interesting and simple and mafia
Most toxic game on the internet - this doesn't look fun and I don't expect this mechanic to turn out gratifying, but it can't actually be worse than playing like mountainous or nightless with situational use of the mechanics, which is alright.
9.Unnamed Semi-Open : investigation is the worst of all night action effects, and this setup is based on them.
10. Wizards versus Warlocks : I don't think this will be fun. To the extent it is fun it crosses genres into a more mathy, board games kind of space due to the complexity of the Ward mechanic and it's nonlinear cost, and that makes it challenging to put in a queue and get a full playerlist of players who want that and embrace it.
11. Chromavalon- the mechanic is just not for me.
12. Powerbrokers- I was worried about having to read this long setup then I found out it's a flipless Large and whew what a relief."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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I'm phone posting, use the numbering not the order for mine.
Also I don't want to acknowledge Hectic's submission change.
Also I wish there was a setup funniness contest so I could go head to head with kerset's"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Hectic's submission falls 4 ranks when it becomes Golden Fleece
I'll edit if I'm ever on a PC today"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Oh, is Death Curse better? I'll keep it as that then. Sorry for the inconvenience, Aa-
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Hmm, there sure are some complicated setups this time around. I'll vote when I have time to comprehend all of them.-
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would it be unfair to say that i don't really see why it's max one setup per person?
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