Micro 332--Rock Operafia(Mafia Chat)

[Kagami]

Really want NS to die today over RA. RA is a pretty easy mislynch tomorrow, NS is much harder.

[Kagami]

RA has to be either ascetic/vanillaproof dayvig or some goofy third party that has a factional daykill. The latter seems pretty unlikely.

Couple of routes to take here... but a lot depends on what Lincolm and SSK think, which is currently a mystery. The no vanilla-ization thing soft-clears RA, unfortunately. It might be hard to keep him lynchable if people think about it enough, and right now he's very vulnerable due to the survivalist dayvig.

[Kagami]

Clarification of the soft-clear:

It's clear at this point that only SSK could have been vanilla-ized, and of course he'll say that he wasn't. This means either someone was vanilla-ized who couldn't be vanilla-ized, or bert never used his power. The former case implies RA was vanilla'd, meaning he's town. The latter case implies that Bert derped and didn't realize he'd be lynched, which means that his wagon wasn't an intentional scum plot and thus RA is probably town for the push.

[Nachomamma8]

The town is legitimately on crack

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think people will figure out the soft clear if you don't point it out to them, considering people are still attacking NS.

[Kagami]

327 is really clumsy. I'll let someone else point out what's wrong there, though.

[Kagami]

Being voteless all these days is pretty nice. I never really have to stick my neck out.

[Kagami]

Best thing for me right now would be for lincolm to come in and vote SSK. Lynching SSK would def be optimal.

[Nachomamma8]

I think SSK is probably the hardest lynch of the bunch by far.

[Bert]

RA and NS are very much lynchable, so you aren't in bad shape. Good luck!

[Kagami]

Situation isn't terrible unless SSK takes a hard stance on me being scum. Lincolm might be a huge asset if he gets in here, calls us all idiots, and demands we lynch ssk.

[Kagami]

The fact that NS is still lynchable is indeed incredible. I'm pretty happy with how that has played out

[Kagami]

Ok, there are two routes here.

First is to use the soft-clear logic, once I can out SSK as not vanilla-ized, to suggest that SSK would have cleared RA as not-mafia if he were town. The other is just to push SSK on only having one ability, and the flipped governor making his vote-steal on day 1 null.

Other option is to go after NS, but that is only possible if SSK is actually on-board with the gambit possibility. I think that's pretty unlikely, SSK is probably too sensible.

Third option is to lay low and see what people think, but without knowing NS and SSK's positions, that's dangerous. hmm~

[Kagami]

Does my roleblock influence passive or triggered abilities, such as the Mass Reviver on death, vengeful, supersaint, or lynchproof?

[Kagami]

also, if I were town, how would you respond to:

"If Bert had completely derped and actually thought he were loved, would you have informed him that he was lynched and given him a chance to use his vanilla-izing shot before flipping him?"

[Natirasha]

1. ONly active abilities
2. I'd post coolface.jpg

[Kagami]

Alright, can't do anything unless SSK engages the game within the next 27 hours. NS is clearly not going to place a vote, and his power means that he has no reason to do anything other than no lynch (equivalent to a vig for him). Therefore NS is the only viable mislynch, and that's only possible with SSK.

Assuming no decision, I win with certainty 25% of the time (NS lynch), win probably 25% of the time (SSK lynch, which he might have shenanigans for, poss vengeful), lose 25%, and the remaining 25% is a no lynch. On a no lynch, I win if NS squelches SSK's vote, and probably lose if he squelches mine. In either case, everyone will assume the squelched player is scum since they'd otherwise be endgamed (though that isn't really correct). All in all, I probably have a slightly greater than 50% chance.

Leaving things to the dice is incredibly lame, but there really isn't a good alternative here given NS's role.

[Kagami]

If I were town and asked whether a scum would endgame 2 townies if one of them was voteless, would you say no?

[Natirasha]

If I were town and asked whether a scum would endgame 2 townies if one of them was voteless, would you say no?

coolface.jpg

[Kagami]

K, so that defense is out either way.

Sadly, I think NS would target me for the voteless thing, but idk. Either way, I'd rather not win/loss from pure chance, but I see no alternative without SSK's assistance.

Not much to do but speculate about SSK's role. Looks like it's neither venge nor saint based on his reaction to bert's claim, which would be the most dangerous normalish roles. Possible flavor is The Wall, but flavor is pretty much useless. Anything active isn't an issue today. Only real danger is unlynchable, but I can avoid that just by not quickhammering.

[Kagami]

Hmm, actually "Hated" is conspicuously missing among all these voting shenanigans. Maybe SSK doesn't want to vote because he's day 4 hated or something crazy like that?

Guess I'll do a hated check before deadline~

[Kagami]

Silliest lylo ever. I had lots of fun arguments and whatnot ready to bust a move, but nope. Lurkadurks everywhere.

Hope nati rolls well, trust in RNGesus.

[Kagami]

If I claim to have asked for a deadline extension would you refute that claim or otherwise punish me?

[Natirasha]

I won't comment.

[Kagami]

You scared me with that unexpected extension T_T