Mini Game 21 - Game Over

[Internet Stranger]

Ok we have a problem. Im the cop and I found the last mafia. But I dont know who the SK is. Meaning that pretty much the SK is going to win this.

No lynch isnt an option either, then we all die.

My investigations:

1st night: Dragon Phoenix
2nd Night: CasinoPete
3rd Night: Trevize (mafia)

Pim was just a guess really. I figured my odds were good. And thanks for the SK for thinning out the mafia herd for me.

I should have seen it sooner. But finally my suspicions caved in and checked Trevize. I even voted for him before anyone else. My instincts truly never fail me. I have to trust them more from now on.

Vote: Trevize

[casinopete]

well, this is kinda a pain in the ass.

the possibilities as of right now include:

1) the town lynches the mafia. this would mean the serial killer would win.

2) the town lynches the serial killer. this would mean the mafia would win.

3) no lynch. this would mean the town's only hope is that the mafia and serial killer night-kill one another (assuming random, that's 1/3 * 1/3 = 1/9 chance of winning)

4) dagnabbit. the town lynches a townie. the only hope is still that the mafia and serial killer off one another, but with 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4 chance of winning.

clearly we must lynch a townie, then.

run through the scenarios yourself. they're pretty clear.

unfortunately, the only person I am sure is townie is. . . myself. so I must be the sacrifice.

before I step into the noose, though, I will shed light upon one thing.

I am the cop.

due to the unfortunate deaths of everyone I have investigated, I can add no further info to the mix, but that's ok, since it really doesn't matter anymore.

if you *rolls eyes* need any proof, you can just wait until I am lynched.

and if you don't want to wait that long, well. . . I guess you'll just have to see the illogic of an having an evil role and commiting suicide, or the illogic of being a townie and lying about my role.

but I'm babbling now. not too surprizing, really. I've heard the nearness of death tends to do this sort of thing.

cheers.

Vote: casinopete

[Trevize]

So... only 4 of us left and a cop says that I am a mafia member. Well I saw the post yesterday before casino pete posted his but had no awnser to post.

I was suspicious of casinopete being the SK. But later that night casinopete posts that he too is a cop and gives us the logic why we should kill him. It made my eyes go crossed eyed but he did have a very good point.

What gets to me is that this is such a small game and there were 2 cops, and one retired cop. So, I am confused of what my next step should be. Casinopete is right, in if we kill him the town has better odds.

So what advantage would I (possible mafia member) have of killing off casinopete. My mind is going in circles on whom to lynch. Specially since I am suspecious that both of you could not be cops. I am scared of some smoke and mirrors.

Should I too say I am a cop and throw this whole thing into a big loop? Well I am not. But I am a townie and suspect that Internet Stranger simply is taking advantage of posting first to take the blame away from him.

Anyways, CASINOPETE, I would unvote yourself until we get something cleared up. If we were to kill either the mafia or the SK then at night there would only be one kill. Leaving one townie/cop and one mafia/sk on the last day. Who then wins? This may be common sence but since I am faily new at this, and this is the first time I reached the end of the game i need some explanation from the MOD. So I am e-mailing the MOD with a few questions before i lynch someone.

[casinopete]

if we get the mafia or SK, the other will make a night kill, leaving two alive.

since the remaining townie would not be able to get a lynch, the surviving evil player would night kill him the next night. since this is so obvious, normally the game doesn't even go through the motions. two left + one a killer = killer victory.

[casinopete]

all right.

no one's discussing anything, so clearly there's neither an alternative to my plan, nor interest in argument to sound out the remaining players.

which means I should be dead already.

whoever the other townie is, should vote for me immediately, to change our no chance of winning into slim chance.

and you baddies, if you wish to retain even the slightest shreds of townie mask, you'd better vote for me too.

there's

certainly

no point in delaying things any further.

[Internet Stranger]

Ok, this is what we appear to have.

CasinoPete - townie
IS - cop
Tevize - mafia
Nightstalker - SK

If we lynch the mafia, the SK wins (We have no doc)

If we lynch the SK, the mafia wins (We have no doc)

Only chance we do have is actually to hope that the SK and mafia kill each other.

Only two ways to do that, no lynch or lynch Pete.

No lynch is NEVER an option.

so...

Unvote: Trevize - goon
Vote: CasinoPete - townie

And we let the game become the 3 hat game or the prisioner game I think.

If the mafia shoots me, he runs a risk of the SK killing him and stealing the game.

The SK runs the same risk.

If they kill each other, the town wins. If they both kill me, its a tie. hehe, this is fun. Enjoy, boys.

[casinopete]

*sigh*

this is not a choice that should take three days to make.

[Night Stalker]

Dammit, I shoulda been the stalker.

Anyway, my appologies for not chiming in earlier, but my stay in Boston was longer then expected.

I hate to say it, but CasinoPete's logic seems sound. For this noble act on behalf of the town, I salute you.

Unless, of course, you're some sort of suicide bomber. I suppose I'll salute you from a distance while you string yourself up. Some place where I can keep an eye on both IS and Trevize, and hope they kill each other and not me.

Vote: CasinoPete

[Night Stalker]

Oh, and that picture of Pete Rose didn't help your case either...

[Trevize]

well casinopet it is

[casinopete]

I ran across the pic by accident, and found it hilarious, as well as fairly appropriate. =)

Thank you for finally killing me. I welcome death's warm embrace.

[Beaudoin]

The town (or what's left) gathers around casinopete. "Hey, no need to lynch me," he says, pulling out a police-issue 9mm. He places it to his head, and *BANG!*

casinopete, cop,

is dead. Let's see what tonight brings...

[Beaudoin]

Internet Stranger lurks just outside Night Stalker's house, waiting for him to come out. NS does, checking his revolver and putting it in his side holster. IS grabs NS from behind and slices his throat with a knife. As he carries NS' body back to his shop, he hears a voice behind him. "Why did you have to go and kill my partners like that?"

IS spins around to see Trevize. "What? But NS was scum! Wait...oh shi..."

Bang.

Trevize, Mafia,

is the sole survivor. The reason I had this last night is because I gave both NS and Trevize the opportunity to backstab each other, due to a PM I had gotten from one of them asking if the other could be the SK (both declined the offer). I like people to be paranoid. Anyway, the full setup (I admit it was probably quite anti-town)

3 Mafs (Green Crayons, NS, Trevize)
1 SK (IS)
1 standard cop (casinopete)
1 replacement cop (TightLipsTony, who never confirmed. Thanks for taking him out night 1
1 doc (Pim)
1 FDA official (Dragon Phoenix)
1 vigilante (TheAccountant)
1 stalker (mneme)
1 pickpocket (ExDeath)
1 prophet (jesternl, screw you guys for taking him out night 1. I really wanted to see this role in action )

[casinopete]

eep.

there were three mafia?

that did kinda put the town at a disadvantage.

[casinopete]

What kind of serial killer are you, anyway, IS? Why didn't you just off them both?

Or at least kill more of them earlier. Paragon, my foot.

[Internet Stranger]

Heh, Pete, you would have won had you lynched Trevize like I told you.

[casinopete]

that really wasn't possible with two of the four remaining players being mafia, now was it?

*le sigh*

[mneme]

Hmm. Wait, NS was Mafia?

How did the Stalker work, exactly? Was only one of the mafia the one who "targetted" their victim, or what?

[mneme]

Since as stalker, I'd targetted Nightstalker to find that he "hadn't targetted anyone last night".

[Green Crayons]

Casino, by the time it was down to you four, there was the mafia (NightStalker and Trevize), the serial killer (IS), and then you, the town. If you voted off Trevize, NS and IS would have known the other to be evil, and would have killed off each other that night. Leaving you to be the last man standing throughout the night.

..But you took the easy way out. Suicide. Such a shame. Well, no. Not really. Go scum.

[casinopete]

umm.

my point was that there were TWO mafia left out of FOUR players.

very hard to get a majority against them in the voting.

[Trevize]

Men, the MOD was vicious, I actually went back and forth on killing my Mafia partner . Giving me that option really *%#$ with my head. I totally agreed with CasinoPetes point on killing him IF there had been 2 out of 4 bad guys. Internet Stranger fooled both of us in thinking he was innocent. That’s why it was such a tough decision for me to kill him that last night ( I thought Nightstalker could really be a Mafia/SK traitor). Good game. Better when I'm the last Mafia standing

[Night Stalker]

Dang it, my second game as mafia, and it looked like I could win it this time. I was pretty sure I had you all fooled - especally as Trevize presented a far better suspect.

What tipped you off, IS? Especally as you had fingered Trevize as a maf when you claimed cop. (Which led Trevize and I to a bout of "what if he's really cop and my partner is a tratior?")

As for the rest of you, how did I do?

[mneme]

Well, it did helped that I misenterpreted my ability (never did figure out if it -ever- worked on Mafia), but you had me fooled.

OTOH, even without having dogged IS's footsteps in the round where I was killed, it was pretty clear that he was a killing role -- given that Casiopete's cop claim was utterly convincing, and that IS -wasn't- saying "wait, how can we both be cops", it was quite clear that they weren't, well, both cops, and that Caseopete wasn't the one who was lying.

[Beaudoin]

Sorry, I've been kinda busy.

mneme, you would recieve a "Did not target" result if:

1: You targetted the prophet (he didn't have to specify a person with his questions)
2: You targetted the vigilante, and he didn't kill
3: You targetted a maf that wasn't sent out for the kill.

Men, the MOD was vicious

w00t!