Mini 527 - Doom in Valencia - Game Over!

[gorckat]

There are many alternatives:

1) You're scum and know she's a townie
2) You're scum and so is she
3) You're an SK and therefore she's something else
4) You're a townie who has no idea what she is
5) You're a cop with a headstart
6) You're Masons

I have no reason to rely on your statement as a guide for whom to go after.

vote: MeMe

[MeMe]

I'm still rather liking

my

vote.

[Selande]

Unvote

Are you all still random voting?
If not some explanations for your votes might give us something to discuss.

[neko2086]

I second that. Nobody's votes seem thought out very well (including mine, which were more or less to get discussion going, so is that what everyone else is doing, or what?).

Meme, why do you like your vote. Is it because of ridethebomb's omgus vote on you?

And RTB, why exactly are you voting meme?

Gorckat, I don't see what led you to vote meme, either.

[gorckat]

My last two votes have been very well thought out.

[neko2086]

Would you care to share your thoughts with us?

[MeMe]

Unvote

Are you all still random voting?
If not some explanations for your votes might give us something to discuss.

Is this directed at me? If so, why don't you "give us something to discuss" by explaining the reason for your lack of current vote? Or why not attempt to figure out what could cause a vote to be placed and discuss

that

?

Basically, why place it at my feet to keep the game going when, looking over your posts, you aren't doing your part?

Meme, why do you like your vote. Is it because of ridethebomb's omgus vote on you?

Well, that didn't make me

sad

to be voting him.

[Deathguise]

Unvote

on the grounds that I have no real grounds to keep the vote on.
I too would like to hear some reasons for the current state of play. I myself only have very mild suspicions, not even meriting a FOS. Mind you, maybe I missed something.

[gorckat]

@Neko: Are you most suspicious of archaist, soupfly or myself?

[Sammich]

Unvote

Are you

all

still random voting?
If not some explanations for your votes might give us something to discuss.

Is this directed at me? If so, why don't you "give us something to discuss" by explaining the reason for your lack of current vote? Or why not attempt to figure out what could cause a vote to be placed and discuss

that

?
quote]

[Archaist]

My last two votes have been very well thought out.

I would also like to hear the reasoning behind those. I notice that despite neko2086's asking you to explain them, you ignored the question.

Meme, why do you like your vote. Is it because of ridethebomb's omgus vote on you?

Well, that didn't make me sad to be voting him. I'm still rather liking my vote.

That's not really an explanation. RtB really hasn't made any posts that I find vote-worthy.

[Selande]

Meme, my question was not directed at you specifically, but at everybody voting.

I'm not voting currently because I don't find anybody particularly vote-worthy and because I have the impression that some of us are past random voting.

Sammich, why do you answer questions directed at me?

[RideTheBomb]

Neko, I'm voting for MeMe because she's voting for me. So MeMe, why did you vote for me?

[gorckat]

I notice that despite neko2086's asking you to explain them, you ignored the question.

Deliberately. In effect, I said no.

Not at this moment, at least.

[SirWario]

Neko, I'm voting for MeMe because she's voting for me. So MeMe, why did you vote for me?

That ,my friends, is the definition of an OMGUS vote.

FOS: RidetheBomb

[neko2086]

A shameless omgus at that.

Gorckat, to answer your question, I suppose I'm beginning to be more suspicious of you since you are apparently hiding something.

I don't know what to think of Soupfly, really, and my vote on archaist was more or less just a catalyst. Now you are deliberately avoiding answering questions, so in that case...

unvote; FOS:gorckat

[gorckat]

I don't know what to think of Soupfly

That seems like avoidance of a question, but is a common way of saying neutral. You must think

something

about him.

Do you find him scummy? If so, why? If not, why? If you find him neutral, what has he done to end up there?

What do you think I'm hiding?

[MeMe]

Neko, I'm voting for MeMe because she's voting for me. So MeMe, why did you vote for me?

You deserve it.

Mod Vote Count

:
Archaist (1): soupfly
neko2086 (2): Sammich, SirWario
Selande (1): McStab
RideTheBomb (1): MeMe
MeMe (2): RidetheBomb, gorckat

not voting: Archaist, Sikario8, Selande, Deathguise, neko2806

[Sammich]

Sammich, why do you answer questions directed at me?

Because I enjoy players with basic reading comprehension.

[neko2086]

Sorry gorckat, I guess I could elaborate.

His comments strike me as rather odd. I can't say he's said anything very helpful so far (maybe nobody has, really), but he doesn't quite seem scummy either. It's hard to make real serious judgments when not much has been said. I'm sure I'll have a much more detailed opinion of him later, but for now I just don't know what to make of him.

You seem fascinated by him. Would you like to share your thoughts on him, or will you be keeping those to yourself as well. I don't know what you're hiding, and I think it's very possible you've got nothing to hide, which is why I was curious to know why you're not giving us more of your thoughts. If you're withholding them for strategic purposes, just say so, but it would be nice if you could contribute something...

[soupfly]

unvote: archaist

...that ship has sailed.

now let me turn my attention to gorckat who seems to have his eye on me. just so you know the "Meme is not scum" post is the kind of stuff I do to get the game started. my early game sense tells me that she's probably town although i am neither certain of her innocence, nor her guilt.

just so i don't have to write this late, here's a few tidbits about my playstyle:

1) i become more aggressive in scumhunting as the game goes on. until i get a feel of the game i don't really go crazy on interrogations unless something really jumps out at me. as the game moves along i'm usually among the most active...so if you want to call me out for not contributing to scum hunting on day 1 or early day 2 then you're barking up the wrong tree.

2) i don't state my reasons for suspicions unless i'm sure that i want to lynch someone in which case i'll do a detailed analysis. the reason for this should be clear to most of you.

3) i state my opinion always about who i think is town or scum so don't go reading into things like he's buddying up or he's distancing with me. i believe its in the town's best interest to know my unbiased point of view and i'll never shy away from doing so for fear of being lynched.

these are the main things that people have consistently found scummy about me in instances where i have been town. this doesn't mean that i'm definitely town just because i act this way...rather it means you need to find other things in my gameplay to catch me if i am indeed scum. in any case, feel free to metagame my play to confirm this.

and oh, btw:

vote: neko2086

the reason should be obvious.

[Sammich]

just so i don't have to write this late, here's a few tidbits about my playstyle:

1) i become more aggressive in scumhunting as the game goes on. until i get a feel of the game i don't really go crazy on interrogations unless something really jumps out at me. as the game moves along i'm usually among the most active...so if you want to call me out for not contributing to scum hunting on day 1 or early day 2 then you're barking up the wrong tree.

You know, people lynch me for that sort of play aaaaalll the time.

2) i don't state my reasons for suspicions unless i'm sure that i want to lynch someone in which case i'll do a detailed analysis. the reason for this should be clear to most of you.

O I C wut u did thar! =O

3) i state my opinion always about who i think is town or scum so don't go reading into things like he's buddying up or he's distancing with me. i believe its in the town's best interest to know my unbiased point of view and i'll never shy away from doing so for fear of being lynched.

There's no reason to bring your playstyle into this, really. I don't know if you're using this for a voucher for future scum play or whatever the hell, but I don't believe there's any reason for metagame discussion right now.

Unvote; FOS Soupfly

I have my eyes on you.

[gorckat]

Neko: If your vote on archaist was just a catalyst for discussion and you saw soupfly and/or I as opportunistic scum, why didn't the vote switch to one of us?

Soupfly: I have to agree with Sammich. Why even bring all that up? For me, you've just undercut everything you might do in the future and, in effect, told me not to trust you.

[soupfly]

Soupfly: I have to agree with Sammich. Why even bring all that up? For me, you've just undercut everything you might do in the future and, in effect, told me not to trust you.

i don't see how you could arrive at that conclusion. what i said is that whether i am townie or scum i will do the things i listed because that is my playstyle. i'm not going to change the play style to conform with someone else's idea of how a townie should play.

and by the way, in mafia you should never trust anybody cause people tend to lie

[gorckat]

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I don't think you should change your playstyle if you're winning games.

And by trust, I think I meant credibility. Its hard for me to put in words at the moment.

I guess it struck me as a cook coming to my table and saying, "Sometimes I poison food and sometimes I don't. In both cases it tastes good, so enjoy!" I don't want to start playing the analogy game where we go back and forth saying that's not what I meant/yes it was, but that's what I've got off the cuff.

It was unnecessary. Its possible you'd never get called on your style this game.

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