The War to End All Freaktowns: GAME OVER

[Kinetic]

Vote IH

Item Goals were the main thing I said the town DIDN'T need to know but scum did. The other slip was not a big deal for me, but this idea is anti-town.

[YagamiLight]

No one listens to me. I stated the slip, and I agree with you Kilroy, it's not lynch worthy.

[IH]

Kinetic, the whole point of the "slip" was that I "didn't" have an item goal.

In reality I didn't notice I had one.

I therefore submit that it shouldn't matter if every role has an item goal, even scum, and would therefore be null.

This would constitute claims in the form of "I have an item goal" or "I do not have an item goal"

[IH]

7. Swooning/Sexy Time: If you choose a player of the opposite sex at night and combined with one bottle of alcohol two of your items and two of their items and neither of you have the rubber then a child will be brought into the game. (A child has a 50% chance of being either of your alignment, and you will now have the ability to night talk with your wife and new child) Children will be added from the replacement list.

1.Best rule ever

2.

Mod:

Is it role gender or player gender?

[Kinetic]

Well IH, the main reason I don't want to do that, is that while everyone might have an item goal, if some people don't, and there are vanilla in this game that are not scum but don't have an item goal, we have just outed all the power roles to the scum.

[YagamiLight]

7. Swooning/Sexy Time: If you choose a player of the opposite sex at night and combined with one bottle of alcohol two of your items and two of their items and neither of you have the rubber then a child will be brought into the game. (A child has a 50% chance of being either of your alignment, and you will now have the ability to night talk with your wife and new child) Children will be added from the replacement list.

1.Best rule ever

2.

Mod:

Is it role gender or player gender?

Mod

, an addition to IH's question, if one or both does have the rubber, do the players still become husband and wife with Night Talking?

[rajrhcpfreak]

IH: role gender

YagamiLight: no, you just have some good old fashion casual sex.

heatherlou is replacing Albert B. Rampage



i think soupfly is the only person i still need to replace. if its not tell me. he said that he was going to be gone till 30th. sooner it gets i might not replace him.

ill try to get a vote count soon.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I think not claiming items goals is good for two reasons. The first reason would be something you referenced above: it might completely stop any and all item trading. This is something that might come back to bite any of us in the ass (though really, when thought about, I don't think we're gonna be looking for items that don't further our goals

anyway

...)

The second is that I don't want the Mafia knowing if they and I are competing for the same items. Item goal claiming gives the Mafia a reason to off us, and then expect our items to be on the ground to snatch up the very next morning. Hell, I wasn't totally keen on the item claim, but it seemed to have a purpose in outing scum, so... yes.

Unvote Vote: Kilroy

You come with this know, when we're almost all done with the claims. Seriously...

[Mariyta]

Mariyta, the biggest thing is you assume that just town has the item goals. I personally didn't see mine, but I have a hunch that as many players have one it's not just the town or townies. Every player has item goals. I have five I need to get I think.

Would anyone be objected to a claim of have an Item goal/not item goal?

I never once assumed only town had item goals. Considering to get mayor you have to combine alcohol plus two items on your list (correct me if I'm wrong on that), I assumed EVERYONE had item goals. Maybe that assumption is incorrect, though it wouldn't make sense to me for most people to have to get stuff and a few to not.

K-Scope-Kilroy has been against the item claim from the start. He started his reasons long ago (at least, I think it was him...)

[Mariyta]

Correction: It was Kinetic who was against the claim. I withdraw my complaint. Vote away.

[ShadowLurker]

hi again
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i am going to be helping out with votecounts

[Kilroy8675309]

Dude, MoS was saying that item claiming was going to catch scum. Catching scum > my desire to keep my items secret. I intend to speak up at the beginning of things that I disagree with - hence me voicing my opinions about item goal claiming.

So... yeah, I don't think the slip is that big.

[tautology]

I'll claim now, I don't have any items. I'm a bit confused as to whether we're claiming shops or not, so after we get a consensus I'll be happy to tell more or keep it to myself, as the case may be.

[YagamiLight]

No, we are claiming what we have, and whether we have dropped, picked up, or given items.

[tautology]

But not what those items are? It seems like the difference between this and a shop claim isn't much. At first it was just an inventory claim.

[YagamiLight]

It is different from a shop claim, because a shop claim tells everything you might get from your shop, as you have only received one item from your shop. It still really is an inventory claim, the difference is that with some items we are finding out who they originally came from as well.

[Mastermind of Sin]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote="Kilroy8675309"]I think not claiming items goals is good for two reasons. The first reason would be something you referenced above: it might completely stop any and all item trading. This is something that might come back to bite any of us in the ass (though really, when thought about, I don't think we're gonna be looking for items that don't further our goals

anyway

...)

The second is that I don't want the Mafia knowing if they and I are competing for the same items. Item goal claiming gives the Mafia a reason to off us, and then expect our items to be on the ground to snatch up the very next morning. Hell, I wasn't totally keen on the item claim, but it seemed to have a purpose in outing scum, so... yes.[/quote]

Unvote Vote: Kilroy

You come with this know, when we're almost all done with the claims. Seriously...[/quote]

Actually, I addressed this point a long time ago when discussing the item claims. Protown people should be prepared to snatch up as many items from the dead players as possible when the day starts. That way, if the scum kill people to try and get certain items, they can't have them. They might get one or two, but they won't get them all. They'd have to kill a lot of specific people to get items they want, and all they get out of it is a double vote and everyone knows publicly that they got their items, which puts them in the spotlight. That's not really a very good trade for scum.

[Mastermind of Sin]

We should not claim item goals for sure, because we seem to have overlapping goals. No need for protown people to be publicly fighting each other. I mean, if you get someone lynched, they won't be going after your items, right? That's not a good reason to cause problems, so I'm not going to do anything to encourage it.

Unvote

Shop claims don't hurt us that much, but they don't help us either. I see no reason to do them.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Page 23 Vote Count:

KaleiÐoscøpe: 4 (Kilroy8675309, soupfly, tautology, LoudmouthLee)
Mariyta: 3 (Fritzler, JDodge, Flameaxe)
Battle Mage: 2 (rolandofthewhite, Blight)
Kinetic: 2 (ibaesha, Faeren Lord of Carlisle)
IH: 2 (Mariyta, Kinetic)
Fritzler: 1 (heatherlou)
heatherlou: 1 (mole)
FlyingFoxBat: 1 (xyzzy)
xyzzy: 1 (FlyingFoxBat)
Aegor: 1 (the silent speaker)
Faeren Lord of Carlisle: 1 (Battle Mage)
the silent speaker: 1 (IH)
Kilroy8675309: 1 (KaleiÐoscøpe)

Not Voting: 5 (MissMoo, Carrotcake, Aimee, YagamiLight, MastermindofSin)

14 for a Lynch

Items on the ground:

Nothing

Mod Note: I am working on a system to keep the day from going on this long. But because of replacements and people understanding the game, i will allow you all to continue for till Thursday after Survivor: China.

[JDodge]

Mod

: Can we get a deadline extension please? 3 days isn't long enough to make a decision.

[IH]

Mod:Can we at least change the time to til after the office?

[rajrhcpfreak]

actually no i wont. at least not yet. because this request is coming from someone who hasn't posted in 5 days.

after talking to my back up mod i am going to give you an extension if i see significant jump in

content

between now and Tuesday night.
im trying to deliberate between a week from Thursday or two weeks from Thursday.

IH: sure. i really dont care about which show i stop it at. i have an intermural football game Thursday night so ill be gone at that time. so i would want it done by the time i get home from my game.

[IH]

Also, seriously, LML is in this game?

[IH]

you're a "the office" hater? = O btw

[IH]

oh wait, you were responding to JD.

Sorry.