Countdown of the Illuminati GAME OVER

[Max]

confirm

[Max]

First I propose we kill the serial killer, if the 6 mafia die and 6 masons die in a row it would mean that serial killer would win with 5 risky kills in a rown, unlikely scenario but with every lynch away from the serial killer will result in a death.

My proposal, one lynch every week, the serial killer can only kill once a lynch or once every real life week, so we need to be quick, if we go past 7 days we should wait til day 13 before a lynch. If we go at that rate the game will be over reasonably quickly.

And finally, unlike most games you should never claim, ever, and it would be useles as masons would claim town, mafia would claim town and serial killer would claim town...

Also because the serial killer did not get a kill pregame it leads me to believe beepy beep beep is scum

Vote Beep!Beep![/]

[Max]

First kill, first post, see a connection?

[Max]

(1) Use of the slippery slope.

(2) Attempting to control the town through craplogic (who's to say that the SK will kill immediately after he gets his second kill ?)

Yes, SK not killing only ever helps anyone against SK, unless you fail to include delays,

(3) The biggest one IMO, stating the obvious to look pro-town.

So me having a logical ramble in my brain which I write down is scummy?

(4) Accusation based on craplogic, or failure to pay attention to the rules, which is scummy because mafia and SK need only to fabricate reasons for a vote. This was identified by both armlx and Neko before Samruc's vote:

Nowhere in the rules did it state SKs get a kill pregame, neither did it mention making an honest misinterpretation immediately meant in a vote.

Max, I see no connection, especially since the kill was in the opening post meaning it could have happened at any time before then.

Mmmm no. Beep Beep posted almost an hour after Pooky posted. The SK probably pre-submitted the first kill.

(5) Defends his vote as legitimate, but doesn't bold it to confirm. Obvious contradiction here (if he were so sure, why didn't he make a proper vote ?)

how many people do you know that read their own posts

There were ample reasons for their votes, Samruc in particular, who attacked Max after there was reasoning provided by other players, not to mention that he specified his actions wasn't random.

Not all votes must be followed by an explanation in the same post, especially weak ones based on hunches. For example, here is another reason which I didn't share because it was too shabby: he started his sentence with "I propose", which IMO looks like scum terminology, thus weighing some scumpounds on his scumscale.

Now I'm getting lynched for saying I propose instead of I suggest, now that makes me believe that if anything thou art scum

[Max]

And finally, unlike most games you should never claim, ever, and it would be useles as masons would claim town, mafia would claim town and serial killer would claim town...

Way to state the obvious Max Goof!

Vote: Max

Unhelpfully scummy as always.

I never said he was innocent, in fact i will proberbly vote him off after, but thatis my way of thanking him for anwring my questions.

Now u may ask y max? well the quote explains it all and correct me if im wrong but i see it as pointless to vote for a new person.

Unvote

vote: muffinhead

He votes me for no reason either an obvious bandwagon or a really bad scum player

[Max]

I'd have my faourite as SK lloyd.

Post why in about hour

[Max]

maybe not in an hour, was expecting a news reporter, instead I got someone trying to sell me something...

lloyd put on a hammer, but didn't even explain why instead he went around talking about the set-up

Vote:Lloyd

[Max]

Not as good as if we had actually lynched him, but still good

Well only an SK would prefer a mafia to be lynched than a failed daykill

Vote:Blazerunner

Max, get back and post!

I'm sorry am I not allowed to not post for a day

Fos: samruc

[Max]

EBWOP: Also the players I thought were scum are all dead

[Max]

DrippingGoofBall
Miztef
ooba
dahill1
Max
samruc
Albert B. Rampage
Flameaxe
Guardian

3 masons left
1 mafia
1 serial killer
4 town

Lets not talk about masons/town as that doesn't help town

so lets presume serial killer is dripping goofball. I wouldn't put it past him, he's been around at every kill.
What about ABR, dripping goofball protected him and albert hasn't reacted.

I think DG or ABR is serial killer

vote:ABR

[Max]

currently alive:

Miztef
ooba
dahill1
Max
samruc
Flameaxe
Guardian
DrippingGoofBall
Albert B. Rampage

[Max]

I believe that DG and ABR are scum, one mafia one SK...

[Max]

ooba's dead max

Haha, at least we know that Max isn't the SK. Could be scum, but not the SK.

Yay I'm classed as clean!

[Max]

I will not be checking this game most of next week maybe once or twice, beware. Also Tommorow I will place a vote that stands until I next check in so if anyone has strong reasons aagainst me voting ABR or DG please state them.

[Max]

Vote:DGB

If I come back lynched I will not be suprised if anyone has a reason for me to unvote DGB you have until later today

[Max]

Well would you prefer no vote for half a week maybe a full one? I also agree wuick lynches aren't the way to go but I only really have one chance of change during week, wednesday, and that seems unlikely the way my parents have cramped everything we want to do in a week

[Max]

I do believe so. My reasoning will be posted why I choose ABR over you, ABR has done little but bandwagon, I thought my pressuring him would get him to say something, however it has failed. I then voted you to see if you would say something you did. My vote is going to be transfered to ABR now.

He has done nothing except:
Claim your scum
Try to get me lynched for supposedly using logical fallacies
DG, you are the only person he has been consistent in trying to lynch. Even if he is right he could give balanced arguments instead of constantly contradicting everyone.

I admit that this is an early vote but I think ABR is Mafia or SK, if hes mafia I think he thinks your mason and is trying to prove it and if he's SK he failed at a risky kill and wants to take you out the old fashioned way.

Also DG I had to throw you in there otherwise ABR would just laugh for not mentioning other suspects

Unvote
Vote: Albert B. Rampage

While I'm away happy scum hunting

[Max]

I'm back but I'll be reading and posting comments later

[Max]

P.S. that means tommorow

[Max]

Since my last proper post I think Flame axe has been lurking, he has to be trying to save himself here. Me thinking last Mafioso with ABR being SK, I'm starting to wonder is SK going to use his risk kill or has he already used it. I'm presuming he's saving it but i'm not too sure anymore. That run of unknown reasons must have given the remaining mafia. If we presume the mafia say when they are about to daykill the remaining Mafiate is just waiting for the last few uncertainties to die, wither finding the Mason or failing to do so.

If the SK is good at this skill he may have found out who's who in this obscure epic. And that also means a bad mafia would not have this skill. I am going to vote Albert, FlameAxe or Neko later in the day but first I want to hear something, no anything from flameaxe.

[Max]

Vote: Flameaxe

(A little more pressure) I want answers to the following.

Do you have a reasonable explaination for not posting?
If yes what?
If no why should we not vote you?

[Max]

I have been saying that I would agree with an ABR lynch. It's now just a matter of time until the end of his life.

[Max]

I have been saying that I would agree with an ABR lynch. It's now just a matter of time until the end of his life.

if you agree with an ABR lynch, then you should probably vote for him

I will however as we have seen quick lynches hurt town not help them.

Besides if samruc really is mason fishing it creates a bout of WIFOM:

If he is a mason he would try and fish for the mason making the SK target someone else
If he is a townie he is trying to make the SK target him
If he is the SK he is trying to get the mason to claim

[Max]

Max also very scummy.

More than Flameaxe? How about Blazerunner? Have you taken an in-depth look at these players?

Flameaxe has done nothing wrong. Blazerunner has done nothing wrong either, except for your claim that he was "watching" the thread. Even if I did see him online, he is involved in other games in theme park and you have no way of knowing he was watching *this* thread.

The only other person I have to mention is Guardian. He better watch himself.

And then only a few pages later you voted for him, how odd...

I'd vote Max for personal reasons LOL

Unvote, vote Max

Another odd thing here what are the personal reasons, you risky kill? Your lack of reasoning, your lack of any content?

At the end of the day ABR you have done little but tell the town what to do while doing little of what you say yourself, you have told us to post reasoning for lynches but on your own vote not doing any of that. Do you believe you are above the ranking of all Pro-Town Players?

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

[Max]

Other players read through his stuff, and you will see clearly that he has done one liners except when he is trying to get town lynched.

[Max]

If you wipe the shit out of your eyes Max, you might notice that my last 20 posts or so have been nothing but content.

Alberts past 20 posts excluding one above:

Yeah.......when I took the time to reconsider these last pages.......plus DG's wild behavior in other games that have just started this week.......Neko would have been the ideal lynch, IMO.

Flameaxe is always online but never posts here.

Vote: Flameaxe

Lurking for the win.....how pathetic

He's online right now, posting with me on other threads. Flameaaaxe...oooooh Flameaaaaaaaaaaxe ?

Come out and plaaaaaaaaaaay

Mmmmmm.......except I'm not trying to lynch him, I'm trying to get him to post. Hence your vote makes little sense to me.

I've re-read your posts dahill. This stuck out to me:

we are voting flameaxe because as neko said, Flameaxe has contributed literally nothing to the game.

well, that is true...
so to put pressure on him vote: flameaxe

^^ This post is very skummy ^^

context (before dahill voted) :

vote: Flameaxe

7 more.

vote : Flameaxe

6 more.

I agree with this wagon. Flameaxe has contributed hardly anything of substance.

vote: Flameaxe

5 more

Does this look like a pressure wagon to you ? I consider this a massive slip that shows what dahill really wanted to do: pressure mafia into snapping and killing some masons before dying.

^Your only out of last 20 to have any info what so ever

You bandwagonned a player, put him close to lynch but suspiciously claimed that you wanted to "pressure" him.

You are lying. You don't pressure a player with a 4th vote, after 3 consecutive votes on that player saying "5 votes left, 4 votes left".

Don't lie dahill.

unvote, vote dahill

vote flameaxe

gogogo

unvote, vote: flameaxe

Vote: dahill for earlier reasons

bah.....we got 2 lynches left and 7 days......

Present your case against me, let's see it.

you were pushing heavily towards a DG lynch, who we all thought was scum
but as Guardian pointed "if she was town, you're probably scum".
also you started pretty much all of the bandwagons/bum rushes which wasn't necessarily bad because we lynched a lot of scum, but it's still suspicious because you directed us around.

Guardian and me BOTH directed wagons. And I got all of them right except DG, even though I didn't nail the SK yet.

DG being town has no effect on my alignment. If you have any evidence supporting that claim, please state them.

I'd say Max is the next most suspicious person, followed by Neko but I'm not sure anymore because I thought Neko was mafia and not SK.

I was only after DG on day 3 when DG quicklynched blazerunner for no reason at all (she was scummy as hell), and on day 4 when I wasn't even so sure about her anymore but had to vote because of the deadline.

dahill1 wrote:
but Guardian was a mason...


If only masons would have lead the town then the scum/SK would have picked up on it and killed them.

The very fact that Guardian survived this long proves the point that directing the town is neither a scumtell or a mason-tell.

Plus, I always play by leading the town:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 765#631765

I'll have to take a closer look at Neko.

I've provided vast amounts of content and analysis, whereas you have done zip except petty OMGUS.

[Max]

I'll only vote ABR if there is no chance two of the three of you would vote samruc with me. ABR, earlier you said you would refuse to lynch samruc. Is that still the case?

Max, do you think the SK really cares whether town or mafia is lynched?

Yes the scum can take out themselves and Mason yet they can't take out SK

[Max]

out of the past 20 posts you have not said any content with reasoning e.g.

I'd say Max is the next most suspicious person, followed by Neko but I'm not sure anymore because I thought Neko was mafia and not SK.

Like to elaborate, no of course not lets see another post:

Flameaxe is always online but never posts here.
Vote: Flameaxe
Lurking for the win.....how pathetic

How grateful we are oh ABR how kind of you to point out such obvious lurking.

I could go back when you we're getting DG lynched shall I?

[Max]

I had been away I read the game using the player by player to see players who had posted lots/not much.

[Max]

ABR this week we should decide on the people we should lynch today and tommorow. If we say samruc today I want you tommorow, if we lynch you I think we've won.

[Max]

Albert B. Rampage <- See above
samruc <- His introduction of WIFOM annoyed me, wifom in this game has no use the SK will create the wifom for himself
dahill1 <- He hammered (kind of odd don't you think) However once he'd hammered there was not an immediate SK kill, which leads me to believe neko is not SK
neko2086 <- See above
Max

Scummy To least Scummy (in my opinion (I suggest everyone does so)

[Max]

Good Game Everyone!!! I had had bad feelings about ABR since the beginning because of his lack of content, I found scum several times!!

[Max]

I agree if anything it was too fast at the start I came on one day not a single vote on someone come back the next they're dead.

The rule I used was if they vote for me with no valid reason they're a biddy it worked!!!