Mini 550: KSFV: Game Over

[Rosso Carne]

vIQleS and Unity, simply ignore my dice rolling post earlier.

ignoring GS

thats just a shitty PR and hes probably town.

So Rosso, what would you like done with GS than?

he should be vigged.

Rosso Carne, first you think Greasy Spot is town, then you want him vigged. That's scummy to suggest vigging someone who you think is town.

Major FOS Rosso Carne

that was a response to what should be DONE with him.

he shoudlnt be lynched.

but right now i think hes town with a shitty PR. maybe its outsmartin the mod, but this setup has wackiness in it. I am supporting a semi-claim because of my role and the danger this town is in. Any experienced player should know what im breadcrumbing at.

[ryan]

Rosso: An experienced player would know that using fear comments such as "the danger the town is in" doesn't exactly make me feel better about a mass role claim.

[Unity]

Unvote

I'm sorry guys, I've got a lot of personal sh*t going on. I guess I wasn't as thorough as I should have been in my read through.

* Sensfan drops a little on Unity's Scum-o-meter

I'll get back with you in a bit.

[thinktank]

vIQleS and Unity, simply ignore my dice rolling post earlier.

ignoring GS

thats just a shitty PR and hes probably town.

So Rosso, what would you like done with GS than?

he should be vigged.

Rosso Carne, first you think Greasy Spot is town, then you want him vigged. That's scummy to suggest vigging someone who you think is town.

Major FOS Rosso Carne

that was a response to what should be DONE with him.

he shoudlnt be lynched.

but right now i think hes town with a shitty PR. maybe its outsmartin the mod, but this setup has wackiness in it. I am supporting a semi-claim because of my role and the danger this town is in. Any experienced player should know what im breadcrumbing at.

What good would a mass claim do if we don't know the setup? It is just a really bad idea, I'm sorry; It is very very unlikely the town will be better off. If our speculation is correct about GS and he is claiming to give information, there seem to be a good deal of power roles which means that both sides have alot of firepower and it becomes next to useless to roleclaim. Why are you so bent on claiming? If you want to claim that's up to you, but what danger is the town in exactly? I can't support a mass claim unless there are dire circumstances considering its a closed setup, I don't know who would.

Unvote

I will be angry if GS turns out to be scum but it does seem that he has PR and not just being idiotic.

[Greasy Spot]

I am John Michael Kane. I watch people but nobody sees me because I don't exist.

[thinktank]

I am John Michael Kane. I watch people but nobody sees me because I don't exist.

Is he talking about the mod?

[Rosso Carne]

but what danger is the town in exactly?

its a secret.

a well guarded secret that im tired of breadcrumbing. if my boys that have been here for years dont understand what i mean then its hopeless. heres to hoping the scum kill the threat and this all goes away.

in the meantime, figure it out, read my posts, and if you understand, youll get why a massclaim is very helpful.

[armlx]

The secret is you are mafia and want a vanilla/non vanilla claim to out real targets to your scum buddies.....

Unvote, Vote Rosso

[vIQleS]

Any experienced player should know what im breadcrumbing at.

Sorry - color me stoopid, but I've completely missed it thus far.

I'll go back and do a reread over the weekend, and also catch up on any new posts I haven't answered yet.

Does it have anything to do with the missing letters and egregious lack of punctuation?

[Lloyd]

I am John Michael Kane. I watch people but nobody sees me because I don't exist.

Is he talking about the mod?

Topic area wise, Greasy Spot's John Michael Kane claim seem to relate to Daniel Webb, Secret Agent, and Assassin claims thus far

[Greasy Spot]

I am Sir Hilary Bray. I am English, yet I could be from anywhere.

[Joubert]

My best guess would be that Greasy Spot must reveal all roles in the game in the form of riddles...

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

I don't think so, considering there are twelve players and he's made thirteen claims so far.

[Unity]

Well, I agree with the gnome, but for a different reason. If you count the mod, we're 13. The reason I don't think that's it is because none of the roles resembles my role.

[SensFan]

GS:

If you can do anything other than claim, put the name of a player in this game in your next post.

If you must only claim, but can choose your claim, claim something beginning with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z] in your next post.

If you can only claim, and have no choice on the claim, do not comply with either of the above statements in your next post.

[pete d]

Vote Count

ryan (2): SensFan, aioqwe
Greasy Spot (1): Joubert
Rosso Carne (1): armlx
SensFan (1): ryan

Not Voting (7): Gnome, Rosso Carne, Greasy Spot, vIQles, Unity, Lloyd, thinktank

With 12 Alive, it will take 7 to lynch

[Lloyd]

GS:

If you can do anything other than claim, put the name of a player in this game in your next post.

If you must only claim, but can choose your claim, claim something beginning with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z] in your next post.

If you can only claim, and have no choice on the claim, do not comply with either of the above statements in your next post.

What would it mean if he claims Mr_Gnome_It_All?

[SensFan]

I don't want any discussion on my post until after he claims. I'll explain why afterwards, but I have a good reason.

[Lloyd]

Howdy all!!


Role Claim! I am the Assassin. I can't vote during the day but if you tell who you want killed at night I will kill them for you.

Since only you, Rosso Carne, and Mr_Gnome_It_All haven't voted yet today....Are the three of you working together as an Assassins?

What's with all the James Bond and Jason Bourne related role claim references recently? Although they tangentally circle back to your original role claim of Assassin.

Are you role claiming, and pete_d tells you "hot" or "cold", until you narrow in on a correct role needed to trigger a power in your role, or an event in this game?

Meta-gaming wise, if you start role claiming on day 1 in other games, then I'll want to nominate you for the title of "Role Claim!" in the Title Fairy thread at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4310

[Greasy Spot]

My Mama made me.


I am the Bouncer. I get rid of the problem people, but only at night.

[Lloyd]

Vote: Rosso Carne

I tried reading your breadcrumbs, and the only hint that I see is that you might be able to nightkill. With that said, it till doesn't explain what kind of danger our town is in.

Even if we hypothetically have a cult of killing scarecrows, I wouldn't find them dangerous enough of a threat at this point in the game.

I've rarely seen a game that ends on day 1 nor night 1, to the point of warranting a mass claim on day 1.

If mass claiming ends up breaking this game, then I definitely don't want to be a part of it. I'd rather just play the game out as the mod intended, and I doubt the mod would intentionally set this game up to be breakable.

[Rosso Carne]

so you figure the crumbs and still think theres no danger...

think about yourself.

[Lloyd]

I still don't see how there could be a danger that warrants a mass claim so early.

In a game where town starts out less-than-50-percent of the population (like in Kelly Open Setup 2 : Too Much Scum), I doubt a mass claim would have helped catch scum. Besides, there were two opportunities (sometimes three) to lynch per day in that game, in order to balance things out.

In a mini where it ended on night 1, Mini 438: Mutually Assured Destruction Mafia, I don't think mass claim would have helped catch scum either, since the scums in that game were given safe claims.

I've never seen a game where mass culting happens on night 1. Hypothetically, suppose we have two cults (based on the idea suggested in Game Idea: Double-Cult), then it would be difficult for our town to win. One possible way to balance it out is to allow multiple lynches per day.

I've seen no inclinations so far that this is a multi-lynch-per-day game, so I don't think we're in peril at this time as you seem to suggest.

[armlx]

I think I see what Rosso is trying to say, but I have no desire to mass claim because of it.

[aioqwe]

sorry just got back and am busy catching up.

I say no claim for now but I want to re-read RC
GS is pseudo cooperative. I don't want to lynch him yet.
I intend to re-read SF and ryan
194 is interesting, the whole "m" thing and it not being part of role claim

more will come later