Mini 554 - Mafia in Vollville - Over!!

[Oman]

Huzzah!

Vote Guardian

Thats for cult mafia

Erg0, us aussies need to stick together.

[Oman]

Unvote Guardian, Vote Erg0

Three reasons:

1. He wants us both to hang, I say him first.

2. Look how scummy he is

3. I'm now on the largest wagon

[Oman]

Sydney.

WINS

[Oman]

[Oman]

I hope he does, I'm too excited about this mini to not die early.

[Oman]

Nah, some are PM daykills. They're slightly more powerful for town and scum alike, so the new trend is to announcing in thread.

I'm interested to know if Erg0 does in fact have a daykill, because this could be an interesting (and breakable) setup if he does.

Erg0: do you?

[Oman]

Erg0, its just, this might be a Texas Justice sort of thing.

Becuase I'm not sure if you do, but I know I have a daykill.

This is for Underground Mafia:

Daykill Jistu

[Oman]

Okay, I used the dayvig as a catalyst for discussion. I used Jitsu because we were in a game together (in fact, I protected him one night and stopped a NK that allowed us to win the game). Jitsu did very little.

Usually (I'm sure you're all aware) I use bandwagons to get discussion going. I tried this stunt in Urban Dead Mafia, and it didn't do much. So I've been looking for a place to do it since.

In fact, based entirely off his reaction, I'm going to give Jitsu one

TOWNIE BROWNIE!

. Thats right, the first one of the game! His reaction was effortlessly protown to me, and even the fact that he took another long post to say that I was worth the vote. If he is scum, he put a lot of work into that, more than I'd expect this early in the game (of course, Vollkan might be rubbing off on him).

I'll still be watching Jitsu, but for now, he is at the bottom of my list.

P.s. It was a joke, Jitsu, if I had a real one, I would've killed Erg0. Hey, it worked in Texas Justice.

[Oman]

Btw, lynch all liars is a flawed idea. The idea that lieing is NEVER pro-town.

Well thats just stupid.

[Oman]

Jitsu: Catalyst!

Also, I feel like I protected you, even if I didn't.

Unvote Guardian, Vote Erg0

Three reasons:

1. He wants us both to hang, I say him first.

2. Look how scummy he is

3. I'm now on the largest wagon

[Oman]

Jitsu: It was a joke argument. Also, early wagons are a good scumhunting tool. I believe that to my very soul.

Oman, could you provide links to these previous games you're citing, namely the location of the thread in Urban Dead Mafia where you tried this stunt before? Is citing these previous games actually of relevance to this game?

Only that I was town in UD mafia. I'll try to find it. My kill

I got the impression that Oman wanted the wagon on Erg0 to get bigger than the 3 votes it had, and I'm not comfortable with doing that just to get a random wagon going.

Please link or quote where I said this. No, seriously. What you infer from my posts is not my fault.

I'm going to go ahead and assume that Oman knows me well enough by now to know that trying to start a serious bandwagon on me without any real evidence wouldn't work.

BM's Mystery Mafia. Rather than try to get a wagon going on you we NKed you (now watch Erg0 get NKed and the WIFOM be thrown onto me). You're a tough one to argue against unless you ARE scum.

but I don't think trying to make a random bandwagon is the best way to do it. It certainly wouldn't be the first thing I'd try.

Thats why I'm a better mafia-hunter than you. I got you talking didn't I? Case closed.

The day you take Adel at utter face value is the day you hang up your scumhunting hat for good.

This is probably the first ever TG post where I've agreed.

You could start pointless arguments about the meaning of words, or you could fake-daykill random players.

Cause they both worked? Seriously, this bandwagon kicked off a ton already.

I am hereby connecting Erg0 with Matt_S.

Congrats guys.

[Oman]

Can I quickly say: HOLY SHIT POST 'SPLOSION!

I'm going to reread and just tell TrustGossip that meta-gaming is the only sure way to catch scum. Whats a scumtell for you is not for me.

[Oman]

don't knock my mini-normal algorithm -- it is pretty good.

Underground

I was waiting for Oman and/or Guardian to jump off or admit it was a random wagon.

There was no need, there was no better wagon, and it was nowhere near a lynch.

Instead of really addressing the points against him or simply stating he was trying to get reactions (the normal response to being called on pushing a random wagon), he retaliated against Opie and I and, and he did seem just a little evasive with his answers. Was

Does anyone have a meta on guardian for this?

However, I still don't like Oman's attempted fish related to Erg0's vig ability

I was pretty sure (knowing ErgZero as I do) that he wouldn't claim even if he had it.

communicates to his scum buddies that he is apt to chase the later votes on any wagon

I disagree.

One thing to bear in mind, for those who aren't aware, is that Oman and I have played together alot. And I mean a lot. I don't think that there's been a time since the middle of last year that we haven't been in at least one game together.

And I love it. Erg0's actually gotten pretty good at nailing my scum playstyle. He gets me

when he asked me whether I really had a dayvig I expect that he knew that I wouldn't confirm or deny it. I believe that it was just a setup for him to try and add some credibility to his own faked dayvig.

Told ya.

Or do you sympathize with a compatriot that uses unconventional tactics to coerce reactions and ideally scum slipups?

Did you just call a random bandwagon "uncoventional"....?

I'm presenting my opinion, which is discussion.

Its also wrong...but thats just fact.

Constantly talking about what people might do or what they used to do is only clouding what is actually going on in this CURRENT GAME. Continuously meta-ing is just looking like you're padding your post count!

Oh dear God! Let me present you with an option:

Randomly jumping on the largest bandwagon early D1.

Scumtell or not?

For me, its definatly not. For someone like mole however, it very much is!

There is no universal scumtell.

Wouldn't scum be more meticulous if they were to reach out their heads so far?

I don't know if I WIFOMed myself but I felt I just had to say it.

We need to have rules. When I'm in the game, you stop posting. Like, take your fingers off the keys. You lose at mafia.

I think you hit it on the nose when you state that he seems to be overreaching by extending his suspicions from Guardian and then trickling those same suspicions down onto the other two people who were on the wagon

Yup, this is one of the best parts of Adel's case.

Secondly, I can't help but get the feeling that you're trying to wipe your hands clean of your earlier actions.

We all screw up sometimes, I wouldn't be suprised if he was trying to do that.

Also, the early game is too egotistical and needlessly confusing due to gambiters for me to really weigh in.

Gotta hate it, eh?

Are you intentionally stupid? Or are you grossly transparent in your agendas?

Go go Verbosity! Watch me say an equivilant thing to you, in less pretentious words: You both blow and suck at the same time.

I only whip out the bitch claws when someone is severely retarded.

That must happen a lot to you...I wonder what the common factor is.....?

I'm upset that you don't know how to read.

I wanted to let other people know that you don't know how to read so they wouldn't take things you said at face value.

Because, you know...

You can't read.

Lets play a game, its called who can be the worst at mafia.

OH YOU WON! You win 10 Internets!

Unvote Vote Opie

Adel has convinced me with a majority of her arguments (I feel some are incorrect, but confirmation bias explains those).

In conclusion: TrustGossip must stop posting. Opie must stop breathing.

-

Fixed a messed-up quote tag.

[Oman]

(I was a bit overemotional, and it was a bit uncharacteristic. I apologize for the undue tone I used. It was heavyhanded and I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings for a game).

I'm sorry, didn't we have a rule?

Thats the second time Guardian's followed me onto a wagon. He looks like a better target to me.

[Oman]

It seems rather that your 181 followed my 178, not the other way round, no?

You didn't vote in 178, therefor you were not on the wagon. You vote in 183.

Try harder.

[Oman]

I will post my full opinions/analysis of the opie wagon in some indeterminate time (am currently moving the computer back home, thus somewhat L/A on weekdays)

Please don't


Guardian: you are correct, I appologise.

[Oman]

I'm getting a strong townie read off Erg0.

[Oman]

I dislike the FoS on PEG by Guardian.

[Oman]

Ya, I don't know if its the right thing, but its for the wrong reasons.

[Oman]

G'day Patrick!

I will take another look at Jitsu, I really haven't so far, but people keep making points.

[Oman]

Please don't lead the witness Erg0.

I'm uncertain about PEG's vote thar. What is the connection between you, Opie, and Jitsu, Peg?

[Oman]

@oman do you still feel that Jitsu is pro-town? He was so good as town in our last game together, and I buy him as town so far in this game, that I want to defend him. Care to join me?

Eh, missed that.

Well, I would be happy to help you. I feel that Jitsu is flailing a bit, but I do not believe him to be scum / he should not be lynched yet. I should go through looking at the cases on him. I'd be willing to be there is at least 1 or 2 scum on him right now.

[Oman]

@oman do you still feel that Jitsu is pro-town? He was so good as town in our last game together, and I buy him as town so far in this game, that I want to defend him. Care to join me?

Eh, missed that.

Well, I would be happy to help you. I feel that Jitsu is flailing a bit, but I do not believe him to be scum / he should not be lynched yet. I should go through looking at the cases on him. I'd be willing to be there is at least 1 or 2 scum on him right now.

Oman, this post is disgusting and it reminds me very strongly of what opie was receiving some flak for in Adel's case when he was casting some suspicion towards Guardian and then trickling that suspicion down onto the other two people on the Erg0 mini-wagon. At the time of this post, Jitsu had accumulated three votes: one from Erg0 (a person who you previously labeled as "seeming very pro-town"), one from Patrick (a person whom you have yet to voice any suspicions about), and one from Guardian (a person whom I believe is scum but who you have yet to comment on especially in relation to my case against him).

So I ask you, which of these three people do you believe fall into this category of "1 or 2 scum"? Also, why do you believe this to be the case?

Huge FoS: Oman

I still stand by it, except I thought the wagon was bigger than 3. So I must say that 1 scum or maybe none.

[Oman]

Adel, how about Big Love mafia?

Eww. Please don't mention that game.

[Oman]

Getting a strong town read off Adel.

[Oman]

I approve of the Opie wagon.

[Oman]

I'm the first.

No lip from you or I won't "happy scumday" you tomorrow.

[Oman]

HoS Matt_S

Silly searcher.

[Oman]

I agree with Adel on the "Ifs"

Erg0, you're playing in a strange way at the moment. Saying things I wouldn't expect you to.

Hammer please.

[Oman]

There's nearly a week until deadline and activity is high, we have plenty of time to swing another lynch if there's agreement.

If there is an agreement. Well, there is almost an agreement on Opie, so we've already fullfiled this condition. Also, I see no reason that another agreement with be any more likely to hit scum.

A second claim won't harm us if it's a forced claim from scum.

WEEEEELLLLLLL SHIT! If you know who the scum are to force a claim from them WHY DON'T WE JUST LYNCH THEM! The problem is that claiming is a double-edged sword, if we hit scum, well that could work, (unless they claim cop and there is none so they get away with it etc.) but we have just as much chance hitting town (more chance, acutally). To make a claim a good thing for the town, we need to know who the scum are. So if we knew who the scum were to force them to claim, then we wouldn't need to, we could jsut lynch them.

Essentially, Lycnhes won't harm us if its a forced lynch on scum.

If nobody's comfortable hammering then nobody should.

I'm sure people are just worried about you hitting them.

IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A HAMMER, I'LL UNVOTE AND YOU CAN -1 HIM THEN I'LL HAMMER!

[Oman]

What I'm saying is that "we don't have time to form another wagon" is not a valid argument for hammering opie, or for pressuring others to do so. Both Adel and Guardian have tried to present opie's lynch as a foregone conclusion, which it isn't.

We don't have time (IMO) to form a wagon BETTER than Opiewagon or, to be more factual, more likely of assiting the town to find scum (including the wagonee being scum (as opie is))

In my eyes, another wagon would be more likely to hit scum simply because I don't like this one.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here and say, okay, Opie is lynched and Opie

is

town. Does this wagon still benefit the town?

[quote="Erg0]Again, my point is that saying "we shouldn't have another claim on day 1" is not an excuse for a bad lynch. [/quote] Good thing this isn't a bad lynch.

If I think that someone else is scum then I see no harm in getting a claim from them, regardless of how many players have claimed previously.

Why should your thoughts on who is scum be more valid then ours? I think we need to review what claiming is for. To me, claiming is to make sure the town isn't going to lynch a powerrole. Claiming is not a scumhunting tool, because counter-claiming outs your powerrole anyway. Claiming is

not

a scumhunting tool!

Generally, I am concerned that the current arguments in favour of hammering opie seem to boil down to "that wasn't a bad day 1, let's kill the guy with the most votes and get on with things".

Thats a fair concern, but i think lynching scum gives it the weight it needs.

They've basically been given a free pass to do so by those on the wagon, which is seriously not helpful.

If there is anyone on ANY wagon who doesn't want someone to be lynched at this point, they shouldn't be on the wagon at all. I think anytime a player is at -1 and has claimed they pretty much have a free pass to hammer, no-one has unvoted.

Xyl and ChaosOmega have already been allowed to get away with majorly wagonny votes on opie

I will review these.

Bottom line, I don't like this wagon and I definitely don't like the attempts to gift wrap it for the last voter.

I get a strong town read off you if its any consolation. Though Opie's alignment will show me something about you.

[Oman]

Erg0 is acting like scum who knows that the opie lynch will go through

I'm WIFOMing the other way.

[Oman]

Dependent on one question:

Erg0: Is Matt_S scum or not?

[Oman]

I'm not going to mention Matt_S until Erg0 gets back to me on him.

[Oman]

Okay, erg0 is scum with Matt_S.

Opie first, then erg0, then matt_S (or Matt_S then erg0, its really arbitrayry)

[Oman]

Because, I didn't like his response to the Matt_S question at all, also I think he may (IIRC) have defended Matt_S earlier.

[Oman]

It could've been someone else, I didn't check.

[Oman]

Reducto ad absurdium?

[Oman]

No, no, no. I knew someone would bring this up today.

Its D1 NOBODY can fish.

[Oman]

You, erg0, saying that Guardian is fishing.

Hyperbole doesn't cut it with me either, I'm

this

close to switching to you, but I really don't want opie to get away.

Come morning I will vote erg0

[Oman]

Are you trying to say that there is no such thing as fishing on day 1?

Not in that context.

note that Oman and Guardian both quickly rebuked Matt_S for his erroneous comment about wanting more claims, which I feel is inconsistent with their recent actions

I was going after the action of asking for more claims rather than Matt_S himself on that.

HoS erg0

Opie wagon must be seen through to the end.

[Oman]

1. "Do you know one of them to be town?" is blatant fishing for a mason claim, since we didn't have a night 0 and I couldn't have an investigation result.

Actually, I saw it as a cop claim, which is why I said it couldn't be fishing.

I personally don't think masons are worth fishing for.

[Oman]

I disagree that you pseudo-roleclaimed. I do however feel that it is easily perceived that way. In fact,

if

you are scum, I'd say you're setting up for a claim. However, I don't know if you're scum or not, so I won't make that large jump yet.

I have pretty much the same fear of letting Opie-scum escape whilst going after Erg0-town. I think 581 is entirely valid, and I think (personally) that you're a townie, because of your actions so far, but I could be wrong easily, which is why I'm not pushing for a claim.

But then again, you're a famewhore.

[Oman]

Guardian, Pat, I've seen Adel do this before, it gives me good vibes.

Matt_S follows erg0's vote.

This, I would say, is an epic phail wagon.

[Oman]

No erg0, I hadn't read anything at the time, just the VC.

[Oman]

Ah, deadline soon.

Opie dies, then I review the game during night. Then I yell at erg0.

[Oman]

I take it you don't believe Matt's claim that he didn't see my vote at the bottom of the last page?

WOW WHAT A CO-INCIDENCE THEN!

WOWEY, I'M SUPRISED YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME AVATAR CAUSE YOU TWO ARE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH LIKE CLICK WE'RE THERE WE'RE THINKING BUDDIES AND ALL WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE I WISH I HAD A MAFIA SOULMATE.

(Puncuation ommited for sarcastic clarity)

[Oman]

I thought you were yelling at me on day 2?

Damn, you're right.

but he then explained it without any pressure being applied over it,

That is one of the most obvious things, a guilty mind, menas rae!

[Oman]

Vote ChoasOmega

I think we all know why.

[Oman]

Oh, damn. I was going to vote erg0.


Hmm...This disturbs me more, but if there is no other development, erg0 is next.

[Oman]

I don't look at nightkills for scumtells. Its too easier to WIFOM.

[Oman]

Me neither (obviously), but I thought it was interesting that both of the players that I opposed lynching yesterday are now dead. Obviously opie was a communal decision, but I doubt that it was a coincidence that Guardian was killed last night (unless he was giving off power role tells that I missed).

NO! You say "me neither...BUT!!!" Do you or don't you?

I say we put ChaosOmega on the back burner for the moment and revisit him later today.

I agree entirely.

You placed your vote on opie despite the fact that you conceded that Adel's case on opie wasn't water-tight.

No case is ever water tight. As town, we do the best we can. Overall, it was the best we had.

Yes, you became "the first" vote on opie because both Adel and Xylthixlm (the two people who voted for opie prior to you) had unvoted but the fact that you would even mention that seems odd.

I was looking at the votecount at the time. I meant first as in L-5. The "first" vote. Kind of like the third vote, no matter what actually number it is, if there are two people on before you, its the third vote.

if you were town, even if you felt like your vote on opie was completely warranted you probably should have commented on the other developments that were going on.

I can't believe you thought you'd get away with that. You didn't quote my erg0 situation or anything, you just quoted my 1 liners.

1) Can you please review these "wagonny votes" mentioned previously by Erg0 and provide your thoughts about them?

2) Can you please finally respond to my question that I only asked what three or four times in the thread?

3) Can you please explain why you agreed with a case that wasn't water-tight and why you didn't feel the need to comment on everything else that was going on in the thread throughout Day 1?
1) Can you please review these "wagonny votes" mentioned previously by Erg0 and provide your thoughts about them?

2) Can you please finally respond to my question that I only asked what three or four times in the thread?

3) Can you please explain why you agreed with a case that wasn't water-tight and why you didn't feel the need to comment on everything else that was going on in the thread throughout Day 1?

I'll do this later.

does anyone know whether vollkan is a bastard mod type of guy?

I know him to be a bastard <3 Samuel!

Unvote

I intend to vote CO again, but later.

[Oman]

@Oman, Xylthixlm, ChaosOmega: Adel alleges that the Opie wagon was random and designed to draw out scum. What are your responses to this?

I was getting town reads off Adel, so I trusted her.

[Oman]

I'm by no means blaming adel for my actions.

[Oman]

Plus I thought it sounded cool and hoped it would help me sound smarter so that we could bring Oman to L-1.

Tell me, do you want me at -1 or lynched?

[Oman]

So if you were voting Opie because you trusted Adel, why did you keep your vote on Opie the whole time even though Adel jumped on and off the Opie wagon several times near the end of the day? Given Adel's tendency to get on a wagon early and stay there for the duration, didn't you find it just a little odd that she changed votes several times?

Are you still getting a town read off of Adel now?

As I said earlier in the day: I was afraid of letting opie-scum get away after going after someone else.

I think its strange that Adel said Opie was "to draw out scum" but let it go to lynch and jumped around a lot.

Am, I still getting a town read...Yes, though I think currently misguided.

[Oman]

i think the fact that erg0 was gunning for Xyl is a point in Xyl's favour.

[Oman]

By making this statement, you're now in effect making judgments about Oman's alignment based on Adel's actions towards Oman and you're not basing your opinion about Oman's play in complete isolation separate from Adel's gunning.

Whats wrong with this?

I have not really read Xyl. I should. I will.

[Oman]

No, its not. Xyl's statement is based on the fact that he BELIEVES Adel to be scum.

I'm sure if Adel came up town, he'd "rethink" it.

[Oman]

So...you think CO and I are mutually exclusive scum now?

[Oman]

I think he could also slip away following a lynch that revealed Co to be scum.

Pluz 'splain?

[Oman]

Barring evidence that Adel does, in fact, do the same number of stupid gambits in every game regardless of alignment, I think I'm entirely justified in taking stupid gambits as scumtells.

Actually for Adel they're towntells, but I might not have read the games where she gambits that way as scum.

[Oman]

He said guardian was guilty = non-sane

[Oman]

No, I read it differently. I thought erg0 was saying that Chaos made the decision this morning to be non-sane.

[Oman]

I know I'm the other option, but I think CO should be lynched today, simply 'cause you should lynch scum ON SIGHT. And this terrible claim looks like scum to me.

[Oman]

After Adel voted I went back over the last votecount. Why am I not voting CO?

Vote Caos_Omega

[Oman]

Confirm Vote Chaos

Would a cop go all lurky after he is caught out?

Would lynch all lurkers let me walk away? No!

[Oman]

Hai guardian.

Die guardian.

[Oman]

If I could read Hebrew
I still couldn't read you.

[Oman]

Moogle.

[Oman]

vote Xyl

Adel, i don't see how lynching guardian makes a crosskill more likely.

[Oman]

Oh so by "supporting" guardian you mean....right!

[Oman]

Near as I can tell, that PDF takes 8 pages to tell us that shorter is better.

How ironic.

Near as I can tell that is quite irrelevant to this discussion. I'd be asking Adel why she's trying to distract the town.

[Oman]

Bah, Pedant!

Unvote , Vote Xyl

[Oman]

Bah, Pedant!

That "Bah" really should have an exclamation mark after it, and definitely NOT a comma.

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Guardian

Untill I find a better spot, that stays there. Why? Because I vote for scum, its just a thing i do.

[Oman]

Confirm Vote on the Serial Killer

[Oman]

Hey guys, I'm still here. I'm personally happy with lynching Guardian. I lynch (esp. NK IMMUNE) scum on sight.

[Oman]

OMG! LEAVE GUARDIAN ALIVE HE IS THE SK.

You guys should listen to me more often
Do I think Guardian would have been bussed:

I do not believe that this (Interesting) claim would have caused his mafia buddies to bus him. Thus I assume there is AT MOST 1 scum on the Guardian lynch.

[Oman]

My top two suspicions are still firmly planted on Oman and Xylthixlm so I'll go with this:

Nice...you know that I was on the guardian wagon, which is what you said Erg0 was town for?

[Oman]

Vote: Matt_S

My conclusions are whilst not being overly "townie" I find him to be unconventional town rather than, as matt_s is, conventional scum.

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Page 53 Votecount

Xylthixlm - 2 (Matt_S, Patrick)

Oman - 1 (Incognito)
Matt_S- 1 (Oman)

Not voting - 3 (Erg0, Xylthixlm, Jitsu)

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline for D3: Tuesday April 22, 11:11AM GMT+10
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[Oman]

Because I didn't see his play as townie then because I was looking at it with a narrow scope.

[Oman]

I'm starting to think that the way he plays townie would not be the way I or MS.net plays townie.

Matt_S' buddy. He and Erg0 looked bad yesterday.

Matt_S just makes scummy votes, scummy words. Looks scummy.

[Oman]

I'm starting to think that the way he plays townie would not be the way I or MS.net plays townie.

Matt_S' buddy. He and Erg0 looked bad yesterday.

Matt_S just makes scummy votes, scummy words. Looks scummy.

In order to believe this, you would also have to believe that both Erg0 and Matt_S decided to bus their own scum buddy (ChaosOmega-scum) during Day 1 at the exact same time. Do you find this to be likely?

Well, it depends. I don't have time to check now, but I could see Matt_S following erg0, but if erg0 was on second I'd say it is much less likely.

[Oman]

I'm starting to think that the way he plays townie would not be the way I or MS.net plays townie.

Matt_S' buddy. He and Erg0 looked bad yesterday.

Matt_S just makes scummy votes, scummy words. Looks scummy.

In order to believe this, you would also have to believe that both Erg0 and Matt_S decided to bus their own scum buddy (ChaosOmega-scum) during Day 1 at the exact same time. Do you find this to be likely?

Well, it depends. I don't have time to check now, but I could see Matt_S following erg0, but if erg0 was on second I'd say it is much less likely.

You don't have time to check??? The voting history is there in the first page. It clearly shows that Erg0's vote on ChaosOmega was first. It shouldn't take more than 60 seconds to see that from the vote counts.

Hmm didn't know it was on the first page, thats a cool addition. I thought I was going to have to wade.

The answer then, is yes, I do believe it!

[Oman]

Erg0 voted for ChaosOmega, Matt_S seemed to cross-post with Erg0, and then he said something like "Lol. Hello there. Didn't see ya" while quoting Erg0's vote.

Ah, I remember this now!

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Page 55 Votecount

Xylthixlm - 2 (Matt_S, Patrick)

Oman - 1 (Incognito)
Matt_S- 1 (Oman)

Not voting - 3 (Erg0, Xylthixlm, Jitsu)

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline for D3: Tuesday April 22, 11:11AM GMT+10
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[Oman]

Same as Jitsu.

[Oman]

I'm very sceptical.

Very sceptical.

I'm gonna consider this, then hammer if I still don't buy it.

[Oman]

Okay, just re-read it and I think my earlier statement was misconstrued (this is why I don't post in mafia whilst I'm playing other games).

I actually meant that I think Xyl shoudl claim before being hammered, although I WILL admit that Nurse does not seem a good town claim for me.

Otherwise....

No, I don't think it does work, I don't see vollkan using a nurse in a game like this without making it inadvertent.


Damn, the problem is, I don't find Xyl to be too scummy, but this claim sucks. Scum would know there was a doctor if their kill was blocked (or a roleblocker, but doctor would be a major choice), scum would assume the lack of a nurse (as its uncommon).

I would love to say that Xyl is town, but this claim SUCKS!

Vote Xyl

If I'm wrong, I'll be kicking myself that I didn't go with my first thoughts.

[Oman]

Truly Erg0?

I'm a tracker, got a target from Xyl. Now I took that to mean there was a doc here (as I said), scum would know there was a doc.

I know who I'm targeting tonight.

[Oman]

No, I didn't

I'm a tracker, and I figured the town is OP with all of these, and I assumed the nurse claim to be the least likely.

Anyway, if Xyl is scum, then I picked his fakeclaim. If Xyl is town, I mispicked a fakeclaim.

[Oman]

Sorry guys, I'm not actually a tracker, I'm just trying to have some fun with the scum tonight.

Tracker is not a usual claim of mine, so I decided to use one that had already occured in the game so as to show that I was joking.

I am a powerrole, but its a one such that I don't mind revealing that I am one. OF course, the fact that I say that means I'm less likely to be NKed (as I am breadcrumbing Bulletproof), thus its a fantastic claim for a powerrole, no?

Anyway, I'm more concerned with playing the scums head tonight. I'm an Un-Nkable cop/doc, so what do I have to lose.

Unvote Vote Xyl

(Same reasons)