Mini 550: KSFV: Game Over

[ryan]

Vote: Lloyd

Because that's the way to go

[ryan]

Howdy all!!


Role Claim! I am the Assassin. I can't vote during the day but if you tell who you want killed at night I will kill them for you.

FOS Greasy Spot

Sounds a lot like an SK running a rediculous gambit to me.

Also just made himself an obvious target for the mafia (IF he's telling the truth)

[ryan]

GOOD gawd. You've given two roles out on the first page? Why?

[ryan]

WAIT a second...............Greasy Spot=possible jester?

[ryan]

As I said earlier this is very jester like. Piss off the game, get lynched and he wins.

[ryan]

Vote: ryan

Not random.

Excellent, than would you care to give your reasoning for why it's not random you are voting me on Page 2?

[ryan]

Or he's a VI

[ryan]

I'm happy to share reasoning, I just thought I'd check for a reaction from ryan first.

Anyway, I think its a load of crap to be even thinking of a jester at this stage. Honestly, it looks like you're trying to set a precedent for scummy behavior to be left alone, fearing a jester. You should be voting the person you feel is scummiest, not worrying about whether they are "trying" to be scummy.

You have GOT to be kidding me. A load of crap to look at his posts which make no sense, jump around with claims and not think that he could be a jester? WHY not? I don't fear the jester but I also don't want to lose by lynching somebody who is throwing out crazy role claims. For you not to take in account ALL possible roles is very narrowminded.

[ryan]

GREAT, we have a narrow minded "My arguments are always right and your's aren't" among us, this ought to make the game REAL fun now. Take the time to actually read my reply and than when you've done that do it one more time and after that try and sit back and understand how I was trying to explain that a jester could easily come out of the gates like he did and try to get himself lynched early to win, after you've done all of that rinse lather and repeat.

[ryan]

If you weren't narrow minded you would allow yourself a chance to see that a jester could be available that is what I'm trying to say with an opinion. Why do you believe he's come out with 4 different role claims?

[ryan]

It's suspicious that I tried to figure out what somebody was coming up with crazy role claims?

[ryan]

Joubert, you say Jesters DO exist. As I said a few posts back, I've played over 20 games on MS, likely read about 30 more. Never have I seen a Jester.

I can't link it (because it's ongoing) but a current game I'm modding HAS a jester in it, they are not that uncommon. Also I never said that we couldn't have scum pretending to be a jester but to do it that early I found strange and didn't put much weight into it. Scum normally sit back and let the town pick eachother off and than they swoop in when they find something somewhat questionable and take it up a notch and paint that townie to be scum.............hmmm that sounds familiar doesn't it SensFan?

[ryan]

Yes an accusation on Page 1..........BRILLIANT approach.

[ryan]

So, which is it? Do scum attack early in the day, or sit back and wait?

I don't know SensFan, what are you currently doing?

[ryan]

I don't know WHAT your allignment is

[ryan]

Unvote/Vote: Greasy Spot

I'm interested in something from him (of substance)

[ryan]

I really don't understand the playstyle of any of you in this game. First off you say that GS can't be a jester and that you'd all be shocked if he was, so I lay a vote to see if he'll stop this unamusing role claiming he's been doing and now I'm getting pointed to as scum? Well I'm sorry but I am NOT scum and just a townie trying to further understand why GS is doing what he's doing. Yes I do think him close to a lynch would change his behavior which is why I changed my vote. If he's just a regular townie with a horrible post restriction than I guess I'm wrong, but I'm not wrong for scummy reasons, I'm trying to understand WHAT he's doing.

[ryan]

So Rosso, what would you like done with GS than?

[ryan]

Unvote

The more I think about it the more I'm going back to my original thought that GS is indeed a jester. I thought for awhile (as it was brought up) he could be scum and just trying something new in this game (by all the fake role claims)

Vote: SensFan

Post 111 sealed it for me. You think on Page 1 I should have voted the person I most thought was scummy AND since I didn't I must be scum? Usually on page 1 you have a ton of random votes with no real reasoning and for that to be one of your reasons? You're reaching and trying to paint me as scummy in the process.

[ryan]

Unvote

The more I think about it the more I'm going back to my original thought that GS is indeed a jester. I thought for awhile (as it was brought up) he could be scum and just trying something new in this game (by all the fake role claims)

Vote: SensFan

Post 111 sealed it for me. You think on Page 1 I should have voted the person I most thought was scummy AND since I didn't I must be scum? Usually on page 1 you have a ton of random votes with no real reasoning and for that to be one of your reasons? You're reaching and trying to paint me as scummy in the process.

Vote who you think is scummy or rvs. Don't need to be worrying about jesters and shoving it down people's throats.

GS could you role-claim according to how I asked you in my post before this?

With GS and his post content why is it scummy to speculate?

[ryan]

Are you saying he's posted about your role already?

[ryan]

Wouldn't that be sleepy than? Non sleepy would=active, wouldn't it?

[ryan]

He's been voted numerous times Unity and FoS'ed as well.

[ryan]

I hate your role Greasy Spot. That is all.

[ryan]

Yeah, but I asked GS to post in regards to wether ryan and sensfan were or were not scum, and he avoided the whole thing. I don't think he's got special info after all, though he might have an ability to get some...

How is he suppose to give information if his posting restricts him from doing that? I can tell you that I'm not scum, as for SensFan, I'm not so sure but I feel he is mafia.

[ryan]

How exactly is going to do that scum?

[ryan]

Rosso: An experienced player would know that using fear comments such as "the danger the town is in" doesn't exactly make me feel better about a mass role claim.

[ryan]

But if he were given a list of claims how does he know when to use them? I mean is it so many per page?

[ryan]

Sensfan: Didn't you get on me for bringing up a Jester earlier and now you're throwing out this cult crap?

[ryan]

Rosso: Why give out all this information? You had 2 votes on you and 1 FoS.

[ryan]

The worst role ever.

[ryan]

I think you're REALLY reaching here SensFan

[ryan]

Well, according to that post, GS has no information in his posts, including the capital letters...

ryan, since GS has now posted, want to elaborate?

Yeah I'll elaborate, I think this "restriction" (or whatever the heck you want to call it) isn't going to be the entire game but just the entire first day. My prediction is after this day comes to an end he'll be able to go back to being a normal player in this game. If he was a pro town player and had information he could give out, wouldn't he? Obviously this restriction is holding him back and instead of sitting here dwelling on it the entire first day (which we have) I'd rather start finding some scum and getting rid of them.

[ryan]

Still don't see why you need to post the requests so cryptically.

I had (have) a theory that he can include in his posts anything the Town has asked him for. So I didn't ask that he include any specific things, just that he not include certain things.

So if scum asks him something he won't respond? (by your theory)

[ryan]

That's why I was asking him to clarify what he meant by "town"

[ryan]

Thanks for the meaningless re-quote

[ryan]

And I thought you meant alignment, so now I understand

[ryan]

What would ya like to know Unity?

[ryan]

It is rather interesting how Unity laid a 3rd vote on me for "pressure" when he just had a 2nd placed on him.

[ryan]

Looks like a pretty opportunistic vote armlx. I don't know where I OMGUS defended myself but if you have a question about my play, ask away.

[ryan]

Are you telling me Unity saying that I need a pressure vote is a legit reason and not opportunistic?

[ryan]

Sorry to say you'd be wrong on me for your "time to lynch" statement

[ryan]

No, it's actually the truth

[ryan]

You're not asking me anything, you're pressuring with nothing right now. Give me something to respond to

[ryan]

I've attacked who I think should be attacked, if the game doesn't like that than you'll be losing a townie who can help when it comes to endgame

[ryan]

Actually it's a statement

[ryan]

vIQleS: You want me to claim on Day 1? I've got 4 votes on me and will not be claiming anytime soon. Why don't you come out and say "I'm scum and want your role to see if we can nightkill a power-role?" Because that's about what you're doing right now. I've done nothing so far to result in a lynch or to look guilty. Claiming you are town isn't a scumtell. There is no legit evidence on me to result in a lynch right now and the ones who are pushing it need to be looked at VERY closely.

[ryan]

I agree it IS far from a strong tell, that's what I was explaining

[ryan]

1) Why my thoughts of GS being a jester are unjustified is beyond me, cannot I not look at the game and try and figure out his strange postings too? There was no consistent slamming people who didn't listen to me about him possibly being a jester, I brought it up earlier and asked for reactions and people immediately said that "Jester's aren't common" for these games (which isn't true as I just had a game where a jester was in it)

If a claim is so important to you armlx and if you really need to know my role, ask, I'm tired of being the "bad guy" in this game and looked upon as I'm hiding something or being scum. Why don't you explain how I should react in these games since my reactions have been "so out of line" What about the cult? What reactions have I had with the cult that make me scum?

If you want a claim armlx, ASK FOR IT! The only thing I've been guilty at to this point is not going after some of you with more piss and vinegar

[ryan]

Mod: When is the deadline?

[ryan]

FINE. I'm sick of arguing about why I looked to make sure we didn't lynch the jester but tried to explain why he was posting what he was doing. When you come up mafia I will tip my cap to you because I've never done this before............

I am a Cocktail Waitress. I have no powers. I am a townie. Nothing more, nothing less. Bravo on forcing me to claim. Bravo.

[ryan]

It appears GS is calling BS on you. I'll let Sensfan phrase the anti-question to confirm as I'ld prolly screw it all up.

GS is scum faking a claim than. I guarantee you that I am the Cocktail Waitress with zero powers and nothing more than a townie

[ryan]

So I claim and still die? Figures

[ryan]

It drew out GS lying

[ryan]

Well you seem hell bent on lynching a townie

Unvote/Vote:Greasy Spot

FoS: armlx

I haven't liked your play armlx up to this point and the past 2 pages show me you are rolehunting and rolefishing. If you have no problem leaving GS to live another day than you my friend are an idiot and should be looked upon very carefully.

GS is lying about his roleclaim as I guarantee I am what I posted. This crap has to end.

[ryan]

NO there is nothing more than what I posted. I'm a Cocktail Waitress, I have no abilities but to vote. Listen, Greasy Spot is lying point blank and this restriction is bogus. My flavor has NO abilities, I cannot do anything but vote that's it. If Greasy Spot ISN'T scum, why did he claim my role AND try to add flavor to it? As for being defensive, what would you do with the entire town against you vIQleS? I had nobody on my side and was about to get quicklynched (thanks alot)

[ryan]

Are you saying the speed at which votes piled on me is slow?

[ryan]

GUYS, he is 100% lying and he freaking knows it. This is B.S. I guarantee you I'm a vanilla townie with no special powers, I have NO idea why he continues to tell lies and honestly if you want this town to win you vote him off right now

[ryan]

SensFan: And than look at this latest one. I mean come on. This restriction is NOT helping the town one bit

[ryan]

Yes, ignore the problem and lose a townie, brilliant strategy

[ryan]

Either unvote or I self hammer, simple as that.

[ryan]

BTW: To the people who will say "well he played scummy that's why I voted" when I come up town are full of it and they know it. I claimed townie, I gave up my role, I responded to somebody who said I commented about "the cult" and whatnot. GS than completely through off the town by his bullshit counterclaim of my same role and you all FELL for it. PERIOD. This town deserves to have their asses handed to them

GS
armlx
Sensfan

In that order should be investigated and prodded till they give up their roles as well.

[ryan]

I don't have to self vote to terminate myself armlx, I can just as easily quote my role and be done with it there. The town doesn't deserve to win this game, on my wagon currently are a few sheepeople who are just following you scum man. Again, either I get a couple unvotes or I'm self quoting my role and the rest of the town can perish for all I care, you're playing very stupid right now.

[ryan]

GS
armlx
Sensfan

For whoever missed it. When I'm lynched (or self hammer) one of those three should be investigated RIGHT away.

[ryan]

What am I ruining? I apparently am gonna be lynched no matter what so what does it really matter scum?

[ryan]

Guess you'll find out if I'm not unvoted won't ya?

[ryan]

EBWODP:

For the record, I do not want to see anyone unvoting ryan due to his recent, erratic, behaviour.

Fair enough, than I self hammer in 30 minutes.

[ryan]

Yet the town is the only one I care about.

[ryan]

Glad you still don't believe me GS, you're gonna be next up for lynching after it comes out I'm 100% correct on my claim

[ryan]

There is no OFF CHANCE, what are you not understanding? I am NOT scum. I'm a freakin cocktail waitress with ZERO powers or night actions.

[ryan]

Why are you baiting me SensFan? You ask me NOT to hammer and now you bait?

[ryan]

Hmmmm so I'm at -2 eh? Interesting..................

[ryan]

aioqwe: Nor do lynching somebody who's jumped up and down with the same claim and besides my recent meltdown has done nothing else to get lynched. An obvious wagon has started that some of you are confident to continue, stupid, but confident. It's simply retarded for you to sit here when GS has answered SensFan with TWO different counter claims, 1) saying I'm lying and 2) saying I'm telling the truth, HOW has this gone un-noticed?

[ryan]

Yet he came right out (and by his wording from SensFan) said he knew I was lying. Go back and look at how SensFan directed him to say with capitals or without capitals if I was lying. First it was that I was lying (with the ASS statement) and than he comes back later and says that I'm not lying. How is that playstyle any different than mine? He's obviously not helping the town by his cryptic responses AND isn't doing anything usefull.

[ryan]

Seems to be responding to SensFan's requests

[ryan]

While I do feel a little bad about my outburst yesterday this game is going nowhere, you people are happy to lynch a townie, not everyone is even participating as it's a freaking circle jerk with me against SensFan, armlx and aioqwe. So either we get some more responses or I'm done, this isn't worth my time to try and convince thick headed jackasses anymore of me being innocent.

MOD: Prods needed for……

Rosso Carne
Unity
Thinktank
Mr_Gnome_It_All
Lloyd

I’ll wait to make my next move till at least 3 of those listed have some sort of comment for what went down over the past 5-6 pages.

[ryan]

GS:

If you are willing to put your life on the line and say that ryan is lying, your VERY NEXT POST should have anything but a capital letter.

i am the limousine driver. i see all my passengers, but they don't see me.

I AM A MENTAL PATIENT. CONFUSING QUESTIONS ARE BEING THROWN MY WAY. SOMETIMES I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

[ryan]

<---------------Still isn't scum but hoping that armlx has a computer failure sometime soon

[ryan]

How you got yourself into this mess you'll never know. Unfortunately, you don't have any skills which are helpful to the current situation. However, you do have your vote and your wits. Use these to help get rid of the scum.

[ryan]

You are a Cocktail Waitress You are a Vanilla Townie.