i never said it was impossible, i said it was unlikely
I am going to wait one day for an answer to this, which is something you promised but never followed up on.In post 1223, KidAmn wrote:In post 1158, outoforder wrote:Lets lynch the omgusfitz!
Because he's gonna flip scum. Not sold on aubrey being mafia. Kop could be a good alternative to lynch. I dont wanna lynch hapa because i dont really think he is mafia and when he is not mafia his reads are good.In post 1159, outoforder wrote:I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.This sequence of posting makes me more than happy with an Ooo lynch. Will do more wordsing when I get out of work.In post 1160, outoforder wrote:If anyone wants some good laughs go read why havingfitz thinks creature is mafia. "All over the place" and "doesnt interact well eith others" != mafia. In fact its way more often the other way around. There is absolutely zero reason to think someone is mafia for that. In fact i dont understand any of his reads. All his scumreads are basically "i dont like how the person posts" which never makes anyone scum.
I will also expect an aswer in the first place to this post:In post 1343, havingfitz wrote:Voting me and having a foul mouth aren't automaticreasons for suspicion.In post 1339, Aubrey wrote:You suspect them cause they are voting you and have a cold foul mouth at times?
I'm not presenting a case on OoO.(1)I'm complaining about the fact he's ignored my questions...(2)made no case on me I can see and is(3)discrediting other players.
Which when laid out like that is stuff I find suspect in varying degrees. Zzzzzz
Out...
We most likely lynch scummingfitz.In post 1406, Creature wrote:What are we gonna gonna do now?
this attitude of "just attack people i dont like" is getting on my nervesIn post 1405, outoforder wrote:I am going to wait one day for an answer to this, which is something you promised but never followed up on.In post 1223, KidAmn wrote:In post 1158, outoforder wrote:Lets lynch the omgusfitz!
Because he's gonna flip scum. Not sold on aubrey being mafia. Kop could be a good alternative to lynch. I dont wanna lynch hapa because i dont really think he is mafia and when he is not mafia his reads are good.In post 1159, outoforder wrote:I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.This sequence of posting makes me more than happy with an Ooo lynch. Will do more wordsing when I get out of work.In post 1160, outoforder wrote:If anyone wants some good laughs go read why havingfitz thinks creature is mafia. "All over the place" and "doesnt interact well eith others" != mafia. In fact its way more often the other way around. There is absolutely zero reason to think someone is mafia for that. In fact i dont understand any of his reads. All his scumreads are basically "i dont like how the person posts" which never makes anyone scum.
I am especially interested in second quote, not in a sense of where you are coming from since you said it already in your post 895, but in a sense of how on earth you can possibly think the player who is literally most disruptive to the town in this game can possibly be the "driving force" behind the town. It doesn't make any sense.
Or maybe it's just a playstyle thing. But you can also think about it a little by yourself, was it better to actively try to solve the game or was it better to actively shut down any wagons for the last 3 days or so and just yell some random things. Give it a thought.
this is provably garbageIn post 1413, outoforder wrote:And speaking of talking shit you are getting on my nerves really hard because YOU are the ONLY person who filled this fucking thread with shit for the last three pages or so. So try to get some fucking grip and start playing mafia.
I kinda think Kop is town too because after Aubrey wagon got derailed i believe scum were trying to lynch Kop. That has to be the case unless we assume scum are playing like complete idiots and didn't even try to get anyone lynched. I also believe there is never more than 1 mafia in the Hawk wagon, so at least one of Hapa and Rels has to be town. For your townreads i do agree.In post 1416, Creature wrote:You, BV, Cass and momo town. Am I missing someone?
In post 1348, cassielle wrote:3 hours till eod and NO WAGONS ARE NEAR FULL
this is why i was saying HAPA LYNCH IS TODAY'S LYNCH
were gonna fuckin no lynch on BVs wagonwaffling derailing bs???????
this is the value of having a pre-decided d1 lynch target so you dont fucking run into a deadline lynch with NO VIABLE GODDAMN WAGONS
In post 1354, cassielle wrote:if everyones vote is worthless for getting a goddamn lynch rn im gonna go out in style
VOTE: BlackVoid
ready to drive this to fuckin market tbh
In post 1358, cassielle wrote:somehow missed thisIn post 1350, Aubrey wrote:Cass, we can L1 one of Kop or Hawk.
ok, so how can we do that? just our two votes together? last i saw the top wagons were L-4! (!!!)
if i had to pick one? hawk
kop is a worthless deadline lynch due to lurking
we just end up going into d2 with the same amount of info we started d1 with unless we actually hit scum!kop tbh
regardless of flip at least hawk has a lot of interactions
I don't really have problems with Kop's posting other than the big paragraph of "put your vote somewhere" while simultaneously him sitting there not voting. It doesn't make any sense to me.
First quote - accusing Fitz of OMGUS. Fitz has not voted you since RVS. He has stated he has suspected you, but that appears to mostly be because you won't actually answer with what your case on him is: looking through your ISO, I've seen the following:In post 1405, outoforder wrote:I am going to wait one day for an answer to this, which is something you promised but never followed up on.In post 1223, KidAmn wrote:In post 1158, outoforder wrote:Lets lynch the omgusfitz!
Because he's gonna flip scum. Not sold on aubrey being mafia. Kop could be a good alternative to lynch. I dont wanna lynch hapa because i dont really think he is mafia and when he is not mafia his reads are good.In post 1159, outoforder wrote:I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.This sequence of posting makes me more than happy with an Ooo lynch. Will do more wordsing when I get out of work.In post 1160, outoforder wrote:If anyone wants some good laughs go read why havingfitz thinks creature is mafia. "All over the place" and "doesnt interact well eith others" != mafia. In fact its way more often the other way around. There is absolutely zero reason to think someone is mafia for that. In fact i dont understand any of his reads. All his scumreads are basically "i dont like how the person posts" which never makes anyone scum.
I am especially interested in second quote, not in a sense of where you are coming from since you said it already in your post 895, but in a sense of how on earth you can possibly think the player who is literally most disruptive to the town in this game can possibly be the "driving force" behind the town. It doesn't make any sense.
Or maybe it's just a playstyle thing. But you can also think about it a little by yourself, was it better to actively try to solve the game or was it better to actively shut down any wagons for the last 3 days or so and just yell some random things. Give it a thought.
In post 142, outoforder wrote:I don't understand this since i am not casing either of them, at least regarding their votes. If i was i would clearly point that out.TL;DR: Your case on MooginSoosy and havingfitz just doesn't make sense to me.
In post 340, outoforder wrote:I am townreading him because of his posts on MooginSoosy (who i am also suspicious of for reasons i will outline soon). And because of WHY he townreads you, not just because he townreads you -- since i share the opinion of why you are town as i pointed earlier.
Basically - if you go read MooginSoosy's posts, she gave townreads on me, Rels and Creature.
When being prodded about the townreads she retracted from all of them except for the townread on me. I don't understand why he townread Rels and Creature in the first place, since there is no real explanation. Basically the read on Rels she has shouldn't have been a townread in the first place since almost everything Rels has posted is why she retracted from the read... I don't understand the read - or the change of read - on Creature at all. I don't see the thoguht process. I don't understand the read on me either since she literally said she has a townread on me for a post she doesn't know why i even posted that?!?!?!? I mean like, wtf does that even mean or how can she come to a such conclusion. And i certainly don't like her vote on doomfeathers since i heavily disagree with the case.
fitz' big post didn't change anything for me regarding the read on him. Still think he is likely to be mafia.
hapahauli needs to do more shit, right now he doesn't look good (basically playing way below his town!play level imo). While i am not certain he is mafia i was before, i definitely don't have a town read on him.
Fredrick E Campbell gets a scumlean for what i said before. I don't understand how someone can read the thread in that kinda manner. For me it looks like he is just taking some random things at a random time to cprod on them without actually thinking why people even do the stuff they do.
Basically this is where i stand:
town (in no specific order other than Rels):
Aubrey
Kop
KidAmn
doomfeathers
Creature
Rels
Useless / undecided on:
Allomancer*
hapahauli
Current scumreads (the lower - more scummy):
MooginSoosy / Fredrick E Campbell
havingfitz
- with you initially stating you had a "slight" scumread on him due to something Aubrey posted. That last quote is the only point you've been actively pushing on Fitz on all day; meanwhile Fitz has repeatedly asked you to state a case beyond this with no detailed response from you beyond complaining about his walls having no substance in #1006 (which I strongly disagree with).In post 869, outoforder wrote:Btw i still think havingfitz is scum. I went to reread his filter and what he basically did in his wall of text was this:\
- I don't like wall of texts -> writes a wall of text -> the conclusion he ends up in is "now let me continue and post my reads later".......
VOTE: havingfitz
And the fact this line was snipped from a post over 2 weeks ago.He entered the game very reluctant to provide any legitimate responses and/or blew off questions. He has expressed a willingness to vote "almost" anyone. His flips in opinion on me (and his buddy Aubrey) have come seemingly out of nowhere and I fail to see any pro-town content coming from him.
What a surprise, as soon as I express suspicion of Ooo I'm back up on his suspect list already, when not too long ago...outoforder wrote:I kinda think Kop is town too because after Aubrey wagon got derailed i believe scum were trying to lynch Kop. That has to be the case unless we assume scum are playing like complete idiots and didn't even try to get anyone lynched. I also believe there is never more than 1 mafia in the Hawk wagon, so at least one of Hapa and Rels has to be town. For your townreads i do agree.In post 1416, Creature wrote:You, BV, Cass and momo town. Am I missing someone?
Basically i am left with:
havingfitz
KidAmn
(Hapa/Rels)
Rels had some posts that i found out possibly coming from scum!Rels. Hapa wagon was gladly accepted by almost all of the players, so idk.. that probably makes him town? I have to look back and see who actually weren't willing to lynch Hapa and if that could mean something. KidAmn fits as scum though, since while imo he was one of the "easy lynches" for scum to try push on (if town), he wasn't really being pushed while making some posts i found super irrational.
Idk if Rels would vote for Hawk like that as mafia so i am puzzled about that too. I'd have to check back some older games and how Rels has played as mafia when i get a chance to. The fact however is that Rels is usually a player who tries to drive the thread as scum, and there are a LOOOOT of "good" cases to be made (from scum perspective) on D1. I am not quite sure why he didn't take the chance assuming he is scum as he for sure had plenty of those chances.
With a healthy dose of more blatant lying - apparently being at L-2 for a significant chunk of yesterday doesn't count as being pushed v0vIn post 976, outoforder wrote:And btw KidAm is not fucking mafia...
So basically in your world when someone makes a case and the person answers "make another case as you don't have one" the first player needs to provide another case?- with you initially stating you had a "slight" scumread on him due to something Aubrey posted. That last quote is the only point you've been actively pushing on Fitz on all day; meanwhile Fitz has repeatedly asked you to state a case beyond this with no detailed response from you beyond complaining about his walls having no substance in #1006 (which I strongly disagree with).
This is a nice way to twist my words without taking any time to actually think what i have said lately. I re-evaluate when new things come up. I jsut made a post where i explain how my thought process has gone from point A to point B. If you can't understand that then i can't help you further. I will get tired explaining the same stuff over and over again, for example see the case on fitz. I have literally explained the whole thing clearly for like 5 times yet people are STILL misrepping the case to some "disliking wot's and then writing one is not scummy" (which is not my case) and "complaining about his walls having no substance" being not the case (which IS my case -What a surprise, as soon as I express suspicion of Ooo I'm back up on his suspect list already, when not too long ago...
YOUR CASE IS 3 SENTENCES LONG AND HAS NEVER BEEN EXPANDED ON. FITZ HAS NOT ASKED YOU TO "MAKE ANOTHER CASE", HE JUST WANTS MORE THAN A GODDAMN PARAGRAPH.In post 1421, outoforder wrote:So basically in your world when someone makes a case and the person answers "make another case as you don't have one" the first player needs to provide another case?- with you initially stating you had a "slight" scumread on him due to something Aubrey posted. That last quote is the only point you've been actively pushing on Fitz on all day; meanwhile Fitz has repeatedly asked you to state a case beyond this with no detailed response from you beyond complaining about his walls having no substance in #1006 (which I strongly disagree with).
idk how this even... rofl :p
My case is perfectly logical. I haven't ad hom'd anyone. I have called out bad as bad. If that's ad hom in your opinion you have done the same yourself, multiple times. You have literally - yourself - called other players bad and dumb so there you go.
I haven't ad hom'd anyone.
In post 55, outoforder wrote:I think you lack a lot of reading comprehension.
In post 118, outoforder wrote: I wasn't refusing to give answers, i was saying i will delay my answer for the reason in the quote above. Somehow this KidAm dude cannot process that... It seems like he just actually believes in his argument and for some reason cannot understand the posts i (and apparently other people aswell?) write.
In post 1016, outoforder wrote:No it isnt. Maybe you are just not bright but i explained it at least three times....
In post 1012, outoforder wrote:Wtf are yoy doing? I want an answer. That is terrible man.
In post 1159, outoforder wrote:I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.
Uh-huh.In post 1413, outoforder wrote:And speaking of talking shit you are getting on my nerves really hard because YOU are the ONLY person who filled this fucking thread with shit for the last three pages or so. So try to get some fucking grip and start playing mafia.
What has a case being 2 words or 1000 words have to do with anything? If someone claims mafia do you expect people to make a 10 paragraph case on them until you believe they are mafia?In post 1423, KidAmn wrote: YOUR CASE IS 3 SENTENCES LONG AND HAS NEVER BEEN EXPANDED ON. FITZ HAS NOT ASKED YOU TO "MAKE ANOTHER CASE", HE JUST WANTS MORE THAN A GODDAMN PARAGRAPH.
