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Frank has been super lurky and has tried to justify it. Up until this point I'd read that as anti town play but not scummy play. However it has now gone beyond that point. It was pointed out to him why it isn't a good idea for town to do that and he insists on continuing it. He could easily be waiting until a couple days before the deadline to shake a wagon off him and get through day 1 without being able to be reasonably analyzed on much of day 1 later.
I'd shamelessly support a Frank lynch as an alternative to myself or if we really can't do better. I think in general though we'd be more lucky than good if he actually flips red and if he flips green it gives us so little information.-
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Can you explain for me what changed between this post and the post below please Momo?In post 476, momo wrote:I am not really feeling the pressure on fire. Will not have him lynched unless people give me good reasons.
In post 717, momo wrote:I am willing to vote Frank/Fire
I might vote dog as well. We need to hurry though.
This is the scumteam I am with right now.
ANd why would you lynch VT's.
I'll give this a slight town read but not very heavy of one. Momo gets more credit for this than someone like Keyser would though.In post 641, momo wrote:ALL I am going to say is investigate me. I will come out as a VT.
I would not support a Momo lynch over at the very least Frank so I guess its time to
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Gerry is a worse Frank. While Frank for whatever reason is just trying to check out of day 1 entirely, Gerry is reading and engaging just as much as he needs to to defend himself. While frank is unfocused on everything, Gerry is very focused on how he is being read. Now town of course has an interest in that sort of thing as well. But if you are paying attention you might as well eventually make a few reads yourself.
I'd support a Gerry lynch over a Frank lynch but with nobody on him just now and a wagon approaching I understand this may be a fight for day 2 when Gerry and all of the lurkers are going to have to put up or be strung up.-
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gross
this is not against my scum play in the slightest bit, and in fact i'm more likely to make a post like that as scum, but i felt like being nice today.-
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That's fine. Just feed me things like reasoning when you are in a good mood and I feel a lot better being in a game with you. Not asking for you not to conceal reasoning if you feel its important. But right now people are being apathetic and you opening up more at that time to try and actually get something done is something I'm happy to see. Timing of the post as important as the post itself.In post 781, Transcend wrote:gross
this is not against my scum play in the slightest bit, and in fact i'm more likely to make a post like that as scum, but i felt like being nice today.-
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@fire come lynch scum with us and vote frankIn post 783, Transcend wrote:aite so what are you gonna do with your vote then-
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Eddie gives me the willies.
124 and 134 just don't jive well at all. Combined with the fact that he then continues to read me as town after it. If he actually townreads me he shouldn't be trying to wash pressure off of him onto me unless its literally me or him. Also my play today hasn't really been towniemctown so I feel as if continuing to back me is trying to pocket me/ make him look good if I get mislynched.
There is also the possibility he just agreed with me on a couple of things early on day 1 and townread me too much for it. Outside of interaction with me I don't think he's done much unusual. I'd lynch Gerry and probably still Frank over him at this point.-
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In post 429, FrankJaeger wrote:Prob day off 2mar
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Thinking aro is scum now. His recent posts are anti townatleast
Nothings changed with moz
Trans is null wtf with the votes tho
Keyser is prob town, and i don't get why he's being antagonized
Dog looking town.
Other players i need to go over.
Also there is way to much arguing about semantics.
VOTE: arofrank has voted a lot btw!
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At the end of my stuff today and not before. The vote should be my conclusion and conclusions come at the end. Plus half of the reason i'm doing this is try to get a handle on the game. Theres a very real chance I change my mind halfway through these reads and voting and then revoting weakens my position on both people.In post 783, Transcend wrote:aite so what are you gonna do with your vote then-
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How did I try to put pressure on you?In post 786, FireScreamer wrote:Eddie gives me the willies.
124 and 134 just don't jive well at all. Combined with the fact that he then continues to read me as town after it.If he actually townreads me he shouldn't be trying to wash pressure off of him onto me unless its literally me or him.Also my play today hasn't really been towniemctown so I feel as if continuing to back me is trying to pocket me/ make him look good if I get mislynched.
There is also the possibility he just agreed with me on a couple of things early on day 1 and townread me too much for it. Outside of interaction with me I don't think he's done much unusual. I'd lynch Gerry and probably still Frank over him at this point.-
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"My argument is actually Fire's so vote him if you disagree with it"In post 789, Eddie Cane wrote:
How did I try to put pressure on you?In post 786, FireScreamer wrote:Eddie gives me the willies.
124 and 134 just don't jive well at all. Combined with the fact that he then continues to read me as town after it.If he actually townreads me he shouldn't be trying to wash pressure off of him onto me unless its literally me or him.Also my play today hasn't really been towniemctown so I feel as if continuing to back me is trying to pocket me/ make him look good if I get mislynched.
There is also the possibility he just agreed with me on a couple of things early on day 1 and townread me too much for it. Outside of interaction with me I don't think he's done much unusual. I'd lynch Gerry and probably still Frank over him at this point.
1. At the point where you are voting based off of it my argument IS your argument.
2. It's not a super big thing but "Vote for one of my strongest townreads" is probably not a line you should normally go for.-
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Shadow_step hasn't even blinked since I voted him - could be avoiding the thread. If town-Shadow disagrees with my position on him, I'd at least expect him to retaliate.
gerryoat has been quiet since his quick-wagon was dismantled. He said he wants to give momo the "rope", but it's only a soft push. Still in null-zone.
FrankJaeger needs some fire up his ass Suspicion: scum hiding behind a playstyle.
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1 small hole in that argument.In post 134, Eddie Cane wrote:
It is indeed a counterwagon to dog. you should probablyIn post 130, Transcend wrote:Fos Eddie as well. Shadow is a shit counterwagon to Fire.vote me over firethough as I did take his argument.-
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dont say if you do know who I am pleaseIn post 792, Transcend wrote:eddie cane reminds me of someone-
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Oh I totally can't read. Sorry man.In post 794, Eddie Cane wrote:
1 small hole in that argument.In post 134, Eddie Cane wrote:
It is indeed a counterwagon to dog. you should probablyIn post 130, Transcend wrote:Fos Eddie as well. Shadow is a shit counterwagon to Fire.vote me over firethough as I did take his argument.-
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In post 102, mozamis wrote:oh, and fire's responses look town. he seems measured and questioning his attackers in a "i dont care, i'm innocent" kinda way.
time to stop voting fire.
While I totally get a townlean on me turning into a scumlean today (I just FOSed Eddie for NOT doing exactly that) this is a bit different. This isn't changing a read. This is misrepresenting your read's progression entirely. It's a slip. EitherIn post 682, mozamis wrote:VOTE FIREWATER
Havent seen anything town form him all game.
Lot of emoty bullshit.
1. She didn't townread me when she said she did. - Scummy!
2. The second post is willfully misrepresenting the progression of her read - Scummy!
3. She forgot she townread me earlier. Her reads don't have a progression because they are artificial - Super super scummy!
While i'd compromise on a Frank/Gerry lynch this is where my vote goes just now. This is dissonance in a way I can't find town reasoning for.
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i'm probably wrongIn post 795, Eddie Cane wrote:
dont say if you do know who I am pleaseIn post 792, Transcend wrote:eddie cane reminds me of someone
but i won't say anything of course
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