Mini Normal 1888 - TwoFace Mafia - Game Over

TwoFace · Post Post #700 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:42 pm

Vote count 1.12

momo - Barleycorn, Firescreamer, gerryoat, DogWatch (L-3)

Dogwatch - Shadow_step, Selynee (L-5)
FrankJaeger - Eddie Cane, momo, Transcend (L-4)
Keyser Soze - Aronagrundy (L-6)
Firescreamer - mozamis (L-6)
Shadow_Step - Keyser Soze (L-6)

Not Voting: FrankJaeger

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-03-06 16:51:40)

Mod Note - Barleycorn is v/la until 3/5/2017

If aronagrundy hasn't posted by morning, I'll prod him.

Goodnight.

momo · Post Post #701 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:45 pm

I just love how everyone voting me except Barley seems to be potential scum?

The wagon on me is pretty much the biggest joke ever.

Eddie Cane · Post Post #702 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:57 pm

no, it makes sense, you're acting scummy as fuck on the surface level so to me it makes sense newbs (firedog) are voting you. gerry and barley are the two votes you should be questioning. I think you're a town lean for me (can't explain why - ongoing games rule etc) but that's both very slight and something I'm not confident in. the reason you have a wagon is because you do things like admit to joining the biggest wagon because it's the biggest wagon and lie about the reason, and completely dodge questions (600? what? gn.) that you still haven't answered btw. it's your fault, I don't think it's pretty much the biggest joke ever, maybe dad joke level at best.

mozamis · Post Post #703 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:06 pm

In post 93, FireScreamer wrote:Nothing i've said has been off topic and I'll respond to someone trying to discredit an argument due to its source with the scorn that it deserves. I'm attacking the actions and not the man.

@ Kevin Spacey: I think it was this kind of post that made me think Fore was town. He seemed robust and forthright in his defence.

But he has been pretty weak since then.
I'm happy with my vote.
Alrighty, you got me!

I'm never happy...
I'm satisfied with my vote.

mozamis · Post Post #704 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:07 pm

@ Do gand Barley you're both town, get off momo! He's town.

mozamis · Post Post #705 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:08 pm

christ USE THE PREVIEW FOR FUCKS SAKE MOZ.
*Dog and Barley...

mozamis · Post Post #706 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:08 pm

"Jimmy is unsatisfied with Jimmy's posting. Jimmy is getting upset!"

Eddie Cane · Post Post #707 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:28 pm

In post 703, mozamis wrote:
In post 93, FireScreamer wrote:Nothing i've said has been off topic and I'll respond to someone trying to discredit an argument due to its source with the scorn that it deserves. I'm attacking the actions and not the man.
@ Kevin Spacey: I think it was this kind of post that made me think Fore was town. He seemed robust and forthright in his defence.

But he has been pretty weak since then.
I'm happy with my vote.
Alrighty, you got me! I'm never happy...
I'm satisfied with my vote.

what does any of this mean

aronagrundy · Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:43 pm

hey guys sorry for the inactivity, i have a big weekend coming up starting tomorrow so i'll be able to post more then

Barleycorn · Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:13 pm

ok

UNVOTE: momo

scum in {sely, transcend, keyser, frank}? I'll probably vote within sely/frank

why is momo town the consensus?

Transcend · Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:21 pm

In post 700, TwoFace wrote:momo - Barleycorn, Firescreamer, gerryoat, DogWatch

THIS WAGON SUCKED PRETTY HARD

Transcend · Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:21 pm

BARLEY DO YOU THINK ALL TOWN WERE ONTHAT LYNCH?

Barleycorn · Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:03 pm

Barleycorn · Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:22 pm

momo wagon wasn't bad, idk why you're saying that

Keyser Söze · Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:56 pm

@Two Face

I voted for Shadow

fixed

Keyser Söze · Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:02 pm

In post 710, Transcend wrote:
In post 700, TwoFace wrote:momo - Barleycorn, Firescreamer, gerryoat, DogWatch
THIS WAGON SUCKED PRETTY HARD

Even you s/read / voted momo - how can you now say it sucked?
Was your suspicion genuine at the time?

Selynee · Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:48 pm

In post 709, Barleycorn wrote:why is momo town the consensus?

Don't think it is a consensus when three people are voting for him. Anyway, I tend to think he is town, because 639 and 641, he seems confident and inviting an investigation as mafia looks for me like a double sword with a great risk involved, and I can't think why someone would do it D1.
Why did you unvote?

momo · Post Post #717 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:37 am

I am willing to vote Frank/Fire

I might vote dog as well. We need to hurry though.

This is the scumteam I am with right now.

ANd why would you lynch VT's.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #718 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:51 am

4 days til deadline.

I still need to sort:

Selynee
FrankJaeger
gerryoat

DogWatch · Post Post #719 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:41 am

In post 689, mozamis wrote:
In post 686, DogWatch wrote:ok i just figured since they were both in your scumpile, you'd vote the one with a wagon
I think you should always vote your strongest scum read, unless the deadline is close/its clear they are never gonna get lynched this day phase.

do you really see Fire getting lynched right now though?

Personally, I'm not convinced momo is town like a few players are, but I'm not saying that to be combative with you or anyone else. I know he made the "investigate me" offer, which is pretty compelling, but I still have a hard time getting past 597, which to me, reveals a lie about why he originally joined that wagon. Wishy-washy is one thing (I can be that way too) but dishonesty is another.

I was never totally opposed to a frank wagon, but I think most of the suspicion directed at him (mine included) has come from his "don't care" attitude... but after skimming his ISO again I had some sympathy for this:

In post 552, FrankJaeger wrote: I guess I cant speak for everyone, but D2 its alot easier for me to give actual reads. Not "scum would maybe possibly could do this, because of how they worded this"

I'm kinda the same way. Early-game is likewise hard for me, and I'm inclined to believe him here. Does that mean I suddenly town read him? No exactly, but at the moment, I'm keeping my momo vote.

Just my thoughts browsing the last few pages. I'm a little distracted due to a busy day at work today, but will check in as I'm able to.

Eddie Cane · Post Post #720 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:51 am

I don't event think the investigate me thing should be AI

DogWatch · Post Post #721 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:08 am

In post 720, Eddie Cane wrote:I don't event think the investigate me thing should be AI

I could MAYBE see a desperate scum saying "investigate me" in the hopes that it's an instant universal town read and no one ACTUALLY investigates him because of that. It would be a risky and somewhat crazy play considering it's Day 1, but momo strikes me as an off-the-wall player. Then again, I come from a fast-paced mafia background where wacky, short-term plays are more common, so my brain naturally looks for these kinds of wild gambits. Either way, it's the dishonesty from momo that makes me more confident in voting him over frank.

Eddie Cane · Post Post #722 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:21 am

even if cop does investigate him it's not even necessarily worth outing yourself for one scum result, it's really just a pointless line

Shadow_step · Post Post #723 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:39 am

Busy past few days. Will catch up tomorrow.

Selynee · Post Post #724 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:13 am

I don't see anything in that quote from Frank. Even if it is true, it can be an excuse to be mostly absent D1.

Don't see any possibility where an investigative role with a guilty won't try at his/her best to lynch you, even if they won't out themselves. The way I see, he is either town or a very confident mafia.