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[DogWatch]

then again, eddie just voted frank.. I'd lean more toward just ONE of them being scum rather than a case of scum distancing. But that's a hunch really.

[gerryoat]

depending on who momo is from epicmafia i might vote them l0l

[Barleycorn]

i don't understand how you answer my question about whether you think eddie is scum or town with multiple sentences that have nothing to do with eddie

[Keyser Söze]

6 days to deadline.
Let's use them.
I need to sort nearly half the playerlist still.

[DogWatch]

my answer was literally the first sentence

the rest of my post was just the thoughts that followed

[Eddie Cane]

I think barley is town because broccoli pushed cabbage and carrot town reads lettuce

[Barleycorn]

I think barley is town because broccoli pushed cabbage and carrot town reads lettuce

holy **** hahaha

[Barleycorn]

my answer was literally the first sentence

the rest of my post was just the thoughts that followed

okay

explain how eddie might have scum slipped in his interaction with you

[DogWatch]

He called attention to his own meatless vote when I complained about someone else's. I'm not sure why town would do that outside of just a careless mistake or a false sense of invulnerability.

[Eddie Cane]

it's been mostly town, but I haven't gone deep into his ISO either. this most recent interaction with him does have a slightly scummy vibe.

Similar to what fire just said, my town leans have been more plentiful this game than my scum leans, so I'm intrigued at the moment that some of the lurkers have been scum all along. It does seem odd that the moment momo came on board, that particular slot gained negative attention.

So, at the moment, my scum leans would probably be momo, frank, and maybe eddie. I've waffled a lot on moz, but I'm willing to come off that at least temporarily.

your scum read list is every person excluding transcend who voted moz after your vote... ?_?

[Barleycorn]

He called attention to his own meatless vote when I complained about someone else's. I'm not sure why town would do that outside of just a careless mistake or a false sense of invulnerability.

why would scum do this?

[Selynee]

VOTE: Dogwatch

Reading the thread:
68- You vote because you say you agree with Fire. Fair enough, but

304- Bringing the fact that you had the same read as Transcend.
318- "if you guys", again bringing up what others are doing.
465- Looks familiar.
506- Again, looks familiar.

Basically, from what I see you keep relaying on what others said or agree to vote with them.

@Barley- Why do you think Dogwatch is town. I'm not seeing it.

[DogWatch]

He called attention to his own meatless vote when I complained about someone else's. I'm not sure why town would do that outside of just a careless mistake or a false sense of invulnerability.

why would scum do this?

lol that's a damn good point. I really didn't think that through very well. I suppose it's possible for a cocky scum to point out their own vote and make me look inconsistent with my reasonings, but it does look more and more like a town mistake to me. Like I said, I was mostly reading eddie town before and I think I'm going to keep him there for now. Sorry for the confusion.

[DogWatch]

VOTE: Dogwatch

Reading the thread:
68- You vote because you say you agree with Fire. Fair enough, but

304- Bringing the fact that you had the same read as Transcend.
318- "if you guys", again bringing up what others are doing.
465- Looks familiar.
506- Again, looks familiar.

Basically, from what I see you keep relaying on what others said or agree to vote with them.

@Barley- Why do you think Dogwatch is town. I'm not seeing it.

I know, I've acknowledged that I've been waffling a bit and I agree my votes have been on the sheepy side. I'm still getting used to this site's scum-sniffing meta, and I'm rusty anyway, haven't played in almost a decade. My style was never town leader to begin with, but yeah, I can see what you mean. But I think if you read through my posts you'll agree that I've been doing my best to interact and draw my own conclusions, and I've been fair and honest to those I've voted for.

[Barleycorn]

@Barley- Why do you think Dogwatch is town. I'm not seeing it.

i think there was a specific interaction that screamed town, i'll find it later. but in general dog seems very earnest.

VOTE: Dogwatch

Reading the thread:
68- You vote because you say you agree with Fire. Fair enough, but

304- Bringing the fact that you had the same read as Transcend.
318- "if you guys", again bringing up what others are doing.
465- Looks familiar.
506- Again, looks familiar.

the trend you're pointing out isn't scummy on its own

do you think dog seems more shifty going whatever direction the wind blows, or just unsure of her own ability? i personally feel like it's definitely the latter, but you're voting her so you must think it's the former? why specifically is this pattern scum indicative?

[FrankJaeger]

Moz or aro idc

This is bad. You're putting me near lynch (L-1?) and you're basically saying you dont care who gets lymched between me and aru (also likely town).
Shit attitude.

Yes to all

[Selynee]

why specifically is this pattern scum indicative?

A way to participate in a lynch without having to take the blame for it. For example, in 452- she says she townreads mozamis. In 458, asks you what is wrong with a post mozamis made. Then votes her based on the fact that she trusts you. Now, if mozamis flips town, who is going to be blamed the most for the lynch. Probably not Dogwatch.

[Barleycorn]

why specifically is this pattern scum indicative?

A way to participate in a lynch without having to take the blame for it. For example, in 452- she says she townreads mozamis. In 458, asks you what is wrong with a post mozamis made. Then votes her based on the fact that she trusts you. Now, if mozamis flips town, who is going to be blamed the most for the lynch. Probably not Dogwatch.

all you're doing here is showing why scum might do x, but not why scum are more likely than town to do x or why dogwatch is scum because she did x

you also ignored the rest of my counter point which i will replicate again if you missed it

do you think dog seems more shifty going whatever direction the wind blows, or just unsure of her own ability? i personally feel like it's definitely the latter, but you're voting her so you must think it's the former? why specifically is this pattern scum indicative?

you asked why i townread dogwatch because you don't see it. but i don't sense much of a drive in you to see it

[DogWatch]

I would not blame barley for a moz town flip, no. People are capable of being wrong on their reads, particularly Day 1, when we're all more or less grasping at straws. I felt barley had made some good points I hadn't considered, so I joined him on the vote. Not every vote requires a unique and original reason behind it.

[Barleycorn]

dogwatch i am 99% sure you interpreted

Now, if mozamis flips town, who is going to be blamed the most for the lynch. Probably not Dogwatch.

incorrectly

[DogWatch]

how should I have read it? I took it to mean that I'd hypothetically point my finger at you if moz flips town, like "well, don't blame me, I trusted him"

[Barleycorn]

such a weird interpretation

it's about how the rest of the players would react, not about you setting up future mislynches. doesn't matter much. what i don't get though is why you felt the need to respond to selynee's post

[DogWatch]

because I'm the subject of the post, and I like to interact with other players maybe? And if she has me misrep'd then I'd like to clear that up? I mean c'mon

[Barleycorn]

ok. no point continuing this either.

[Eddie Cane]

let's go back to Frank. selynee, any thoughts? barley, why momo over frank?