Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!


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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:41 am

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In post 1899, Akarin wrote:I'm catching up, now. Anyone want to go for the hattrick and just hammer somebody in the next half hour?
I am gonna lock you in a laundry hamper.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:42 am

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The only hesitation from a VCA standpoint on Uzi/Nancy is they both would have bussed JarJar, and when I unvoted it would have been the perfect time for them to move off Jar and onto something else and they didn't.

Now I'll look from an associative standpoint with each other and with Jar.
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 1898, Keyser Söze wrote:Only Rauth can call someone 100% town.
You t/clearing non-confirmed players and narrowing down the lynch pool only narrows our focus (anti-town).
Anyone is up for the lynch (including me) except for RC and Rauth.
Hard defending a player without an investigation just causes a distraction.
don't tell me how to play
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:43 am

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I get the read from nancy at least that if she was committed to a bus she would finish the bus and see people trying to get the votes off that wagon as free towncred for her.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 605, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey mama, I'm all caught up!

I think there are at least two scum within Gerry/Jar/Matt/Vifam.

VOTE: Gerry
In post 819, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Vifam probably isn't scum sadly.

--

VOTE: Matt
I'm going to keep coming back to this. If Jar and Uzi were scum together, he could have eliminated Jar from his pool of four...not my slot.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:45 am

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Uhh. When do scum ever eliminate their partners from even being in their lynchpool?
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:46 am

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Like I think that having buddy in scumpool but never voting or fosing them is classic scumbuddy-scumbuddy interactions personally.
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 1899, Akarin wrote:I'm catching up, now. Anyone want to go for the hattrick and just hammer somebody in the next half hour?
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:54 am

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In post 1307, nancy wrote:UGH. Are you fucking kidding me.

He was NEVER going to be lynched. I was pushing that fucking wagon for reactions. Whatever.

Grendel is scum to me right now. I don't see him genuinely trying to sort alignments in that whole exchange with RC. JJD is scum and one of LUV/matt are scum. Game is pretty much solved imo.

VOTE: JJD
In post 1489, nancy wrote:RC I fully intended to push you until I had all the information on scumspects I needed. It got cut short just when things were starting to get juicy, but at least we got something out of it.

Fro99er Vifam claimed to be unlynchable. Do you have anything to say about this?

UNVOTE:

Don't like scum having hammer right now.
In post 1617, nancy wrote:Yeah idk maybe I was wrong about scum theater, RC reminding me how dumb paranoia is. I can actually buy JJD MBG Sheep, just look at the counterwagons right now.

I'm gonna flip this and I TR the whole fucking wagon if it flips red. Except maybe Grendel. He can be a null.

VOTE: JJD
IDK, Nancy could have voted elsewhere instead of hopping back on JarJar when the wagon dropped from L-1 to L-2. Instead she put him back at L-1

JarJar also really pushed her on her reaction test. I don't really see that as a SvS interaction, but I could be wrong.
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:55 am

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Maybe he thought it would clear her when he flipped scum. WHO KNOWS THO.
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 1905, RadiantCowbells wrote:Uhh. When do scum ever eliminate their partners from even being in their lynchpool?
I guess. I just think if he was scum he didn't have any reason to eliminate my slot from the lynchpool.

Plus his case on Sheep is probably the towniest thing I've seen, and it's exactly right.
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Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:56 am

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Especially with daytalk I can see some sort of 'hey I'm gonna bus you ok so you should push back on me so it seems legit'.
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:57 am

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I just think it's far more likely it wasn't a double bus by uzi and nancy when there was ample opportunity for the jar wagon to derail. Especially given some of the associatives I've pointed out...it would have been very easy to hop on me instead.

Plus I really don't think the three leading wagons to end the day were all on scum, while scum double-bussed their buddy.

It's just VCA, but VCA is useful.
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:59 am

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You yourself pointed out that it's very googly eyes of nancy to jump from you being in her top townread pile to voting you. You don't possibly think that there's scum motivation there?
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:59 am

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VCA is not useful. It's near guaranteed that someone bussed the slot at this point so it's now just a questino of who you think it is.
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:01 am

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2.7

[L-6]
Grendel -

[L-6]
Akarin -

[L-6]
Rautherdir
-

[LYNCH ACHIEVED]
JarJarDrinks
- Akarin, Grendel, color=red]Lil Uzi Vert[/color],
nancy
,
Rautherdir
,
Fro99er

[L-3]
Lil Uzi Vert
- mattblackguy, Keyser Söze,
RadiantCowbells

[L-4]
nancy
- Cooperative Sheep,
JarJarDrinks

[L-6]
Cooperative Sheep -

[L-6]
Keyser Söze -

[L-6]
Fro99er
-

[L-6]
mattblackguy -

[L-6]
RadiantCowbells
-
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Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:01 am

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I really don't see that as happening
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Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 1915, Fro99er wrote:2.7

[L-6]
Grendel -

[L-6]
Akarin -

[L-6]
Rautherdir
-

[LYNCH ACHIEVED]
JarJarDrinks
- Akarin, Grendel,
Lil Uzi Vert
,
nancy
,
Rautherdir
,
Fro99er

[L-3]
Lil Uzi Vert
- mattblackguy, Keyser Söze,
RadiantCowbells

[L-4]
nancy
- Cooperative Sheep,
JarJarDrinks

[L-6]
Cooperative Sheep -

[L-6]
Keyser Söze -

[L-6]
Fro99er
-

[L-6]
mattblackguy -

[L-6]
RadiantCowbells
-
EBWOP

doesn't seem likely...but I won't rule it out I guess.
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Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:02 am

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YOu have little faith in the town.

Okay, let's say that 1 of 'em is scum.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:07 am

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In post 984, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 980, Transcend wrote:Jjd and rc is tvt
TvT is something usually used to describe 2 people who are scumreading each other. I'm only pushing RC. This feels like a misrep of what's happening in the game.

Not to mention the fact that you've already said that you townread us both. Which makes this post pointless.

And you ignored what I said about how you townreading both RC and Matt makes no sense. Feel like responding?
In post 986, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 985, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Still think Transcend is very scummy.
Yeah. Especially how he ignored that post of mine after going on and on about how he wanted someone to case matt:
In post 933, Transcend wrote:Sorta

What's the case on matt tho
In post 935, Transcend wrote:Is there no actual case on the dude
In post 939, Transcend wrote:Unless I'm given a case that could negate my theory then i probably won't waver my read.
In post 987, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 939, Transcend wrote:Unless I'm given a case that could negate my theory then i probably won't waver my read.
Lol, here's his theory:
In post 928, Transcend wrote:I feel it's mostly just gut like i really can't explain this one, but everything about this guy screams "mislynch!"
In post 988, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: Transcend

I'm also not sure why Jar would abandon his vote of you, RC, just to push his buddy over
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:08 am

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I mean this is clearly a scumteam that likes to bus. If they saw the Transcend wagon as inevitable, why wouldn't they?
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:08 am

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Or what if it's MBG/Sheep/Jar ... then the only bus is MBG on Jar D1 and he abandoned it conveniently on D2.

And EVERYONE called him out for it (well, Grendel, Uzi, myself did)
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Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:46 am

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In post 1798, Fro99er wrote:food for thought

RC and I have played together 3 times before. We were both town each of the 3 times (Refraction, AngryPigeon's with mollie and pie that was a shitfest...JarJar was in that game too, and Varsoon's with FA that was also a shitfest). All three times he scumread me despite me being town.

We are both town here. Consider the fact that RC doesn't know how to read me. At all.

That's not an attack on RC
. That's just a fact that he hasn't been able to read me correctly, period. The same thing is happening here. Just take into consideration he hasn't been able to figure me out.
This seems like it could be deliberately trying to get under RC's skin.

RC seems to be a very ego-driven player, and here Frogger is saying "this isn't an attack
but
RC can't read me at all, and is always wrong."

Later he admits that RC read him correctly after Day 2 in one of those games.

And it seems to me like when RC is worked up, they post a bunch and wind up doing less to steer town, but when they are calm they make a lot of good, rational points. RC is essentially confirmed town and is one of the main people pushing Frogger.
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:48 am

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What if it's a Jar Jar, Matt, Frogger scumteam?
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:50 am

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Could we get a vote count please?
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