Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[Aubrey]

It's the avatar.

[outoforder]

Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.

Why aren't you asking me about it?

VOTE: outoforder

Because i don't feel like i need to ask you about it. From what i remember playing with you you will make your alignment clear to me before D1 ends even if i didn't prod you in any way. There is also a Rels-specific reason i am not willing to discuss yet.

But while you're at it, care to elaborate on this; This is what i believe to be a fact. You don't tend to participate in RVS / pressure vote shennies at D1 start, especailly towards a player you MUST know to not respond to being "pressured" by giving away his alignment as mafia. I mean like if i was scum i couldn't care less that there are people voting for me over absolutely nothing. You know that aswell so the only conclusions i can come to are that either (1) you actually think i am mafia, or (2) you are mafia.

So why do you think i am mafia? You really couldn't think i could possibly have - at this point of the game - a specific question to a specific player that i would not feel the need to ask you aswell, just because i have played with both of you before? In case there is option (3) aswell, feel free to tell me what that is.

[Creature]

Ugh when someone wants me to describe "impressions"

[doomfeathers]

Vote: Allomancer

because I don't trust anyone who dabbles in the dark arts of allosauruses

VOTE: KidAmn

Dinosaurs will someday rule this world. You don't want to be on their bad side, imbecile.

(The above is a joke. I do not, in fact, assume people in non-government positions are imbeciles. Nor do I in any way discriminate or encourage discrimination against imbeciles.)

I remember Aubrey and havingfitz (unfortunately) from previous games. Other than that, it's hard to remember. People keep changing their avatars.

[Creature]

So many boring players there.

[havingfitz]

Ugh when someone wants me to describe "impressions"

If you weren't serious just say so. I'm not expecting a lot the first few pages. Ex. Aubrey's avatar was a fine answer. If you were serious though I'd assume you could verbalize the why.

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outoforder....is Ooo an acceptable reference to you?

Is your RVS meta on hanapulali from this site or another one?

[Creature]

Okay, they aren't very serious, but when I vote in RVS, I vote whom I have a feeling that's most likely scum.

[doomfeathers]

I've always wondered why people actually pick the people they do vote at the start of the game. I don't actually believe anyone ever goes to random.org or rolls a dice or something like that.

The illusion of non-randomness must be present for an RVS vote to be of any use. Also, how should I abbreviate your name? Does OOO work?

Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.

You know Rels, then, even though this is the first game you've posted in? Are you an alt?
The MooginSoosy post is pretty obviously not serious, so this post inclines me to think outoforder is overeager town if newbie. If alt, maybe not.

Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.

Why aren't you asking me about it?

VOTE: outoforder

So you know outoforder, too?

Aubrey's giving the most scum impression so far.

From my experience, that means she's probably town.

Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.

Why aren't you asking me about it?

VOTE: outoforder

Because i don't feel like i need to ask you about it. From what i remember playing with you you will make your alignment clear to me before D1 ends even if i didn't prod you in any way. There is also a Rels-specific reason i am not willing to discuss yet.

But while you're at it, care to elaborate on this; This is what i believe to be a fact. You don't tend to participate in RVS / pressure vote shennies at D1 start, especailly towards a player you MUST know to not respond to being "pressured" by giving away his alignment as mafia. I mean like if i was scum i couldn't care less that there are people voting for me over absolutely nothing. You know that aswell so the only conclusions i can come to are that either (1) you actually think i am mafia, or (2) you are mafia.

So why do you think i am mafia? You really couldn't think i could possibly have - at this point of the game - a specific question to a specific player that i would not feel the need to ask you aswell, just because i have played with both of you before? In case there is option (3) aswell, feel free to tell me what that is.

Yup, that's an alt.

VOTE: outoforder

[Creature]

Wait, Aubrey is a girl?

[havingfitz]

havingfitz (unfortunately)

Hey now!

P.edit thanks Creature

[doomfeathers]

Never mind, sorry. Aubrey's a guy. I assumed Aubrey was a girl because I've only heard the name as a girl's name.

[doomfeathers]

UNVOTE:

[doomfeathers]

Wow. I didn't notice how close that was to lynch.

[doomfeathers]

OOO is now at L-3.

[outoforder]

No it is not an alt. I know hapahauli and Rels from another forum.

outoforder....is Ooo an acceptable reference to you?

Yes.

So many boring players there.

What do you mean by this?

[Creature]

Where's Aubrey? We must call her to solve the game

[Creature]

What do you mean by this?

So far there are many players being boring there.

[outoforder]

What does being boring equal here?

[havingfitz]

Where is "there" Creature?

[Creature]

You want to know what boring and there means?

Boring is something that makes you bored.

There means a far there, in that case, I mean here.

[outoforder]

[quote="In post 11, [...]
The MooginSoosy post is pretty obviously not serious, so this post inclines me to think outoforder is overeager town if newbie. If alt, maybe not.
[...]

I think, if you are town, you should probably stop leaping into conclusions since you have no possible way of knowing what i think of the post in the first place.
I mean, because in your opinion i should not assume the post was serious that means if i am an experienced player i must be mafia, right? Well fyi i have not said what i think of the post in the first place so your conclusion is invalid.

[doomfeathers]

[quote="In post 11, [...]
The MooginSoosy post is pretty obviously not serious, so this post inclines me to think outoforder is overeager town if newbie. If alt, maybe not.
[...]

I think, if you are town, you should probably stop leaping into conclusions since you have no possible way of knowing what i think of the post in the first place.
I mean, because in your opinion i should not assume the post was serious that means if i am an experienced player i must be mafia, right? Well fyi i have not said what i think of the post in the first place so your conclusion is invalid.

Ah, but you did see something you thought was AI there or you wouldn't have asked, and since you asked without saying what you thought, I'm willing to bet it was scum-indicative.

No it is not an alt. I know hapahauli and Rels from another forum.

Gotcha.

I don't know the metas for any other sites, unfortunately. Rels and hapahauli, do you think OOO's question about MooginSoosy was scummy? Unless the answer is "yes", I now have no reason to scumread OOO.

[doomfeathers]

[quote="In post 11, [...]
The MooginSoosy post is pretty obviously not serious, so this post inclines me to think outoforder is overeager town if newbie. If alt, maybe not.
[...]

I think, if you are town, you should probably stop leaping into conclusions since you have no possible way of knowing what i think of the post in the first place.
I mean, because in your opinion i should not assume the post was serious that means if i am an experienced player i must be mafia, right? Well fyi i have not said what i think of the post in the first place so your conclusion is invalid.

Ah, but you saw something you thought was (at least potentially) AI, or you wouldn't have asked. And since you asked without saying what you thought, I'm willing to bet you viewed it as scum-indicative.

Also, what does alignment have to do with leaping to conclusions? I like leaping to conclusions. Are you trying to scare me off with threats of scumreading me?

[outoforder]

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum
Ah, but you did see something you thought was AI there or you wouldn't have asked, and since you asked without saying what you thought, I'm willing to bet it was scum-indicative.

You will get an answer to that if you jsut can wait until Rels answers to me.
To elaborate a little bit further; there is a reason Rels has somewhat earned a nickname, let's call it "mini-outoforder" here, since we both as town think a looot alike regarding certain situations and posts. My question is directed to Rels for a reason that i am trying to get a read on him. For now it's irrelevant what i do think of the post in question and i'd like people to drop it since it's pretty clear to me that you all - if you cling on that - are talking about something you cannot make a decision on in the end since you don't have all the facts. And as i said, i'll elaborate fully on it after i hear from Rels.

Is that fine?

[outoforder]

[quote="In post 45
Also, what does alignment have to do with leaping to conclusions? I like leaping to conclusions. Are you trying to scare me off with threats of scumreading me?

It does in a sense that a lot of mislynches happen because of all the information not being on the table and people making hasty judgements. People not being able to answer the accusations etc.. I'd rather have none of it this game. Also it clutters up the thread with nonsense (imagine people talking about how for example person X owning a blue car makes him scum because blue is a scummy color when X has in fact said "i own a car"). And i don't scumread you.