Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!


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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:04 pm

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Pre-flip association analysis on LUV and JarJar... it's not looking good gents.


Your vote on Gerry was too easy. But your whole D1 push was on JarJar.


I feel a disturbance in the force.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:06 pm

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In post 1312, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1310, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1198, RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't tell me how I'm supposed to react to your crap.
This is scum flail.

You're just lashing out here in hopes that people will let up. I don't think any amount of pressure at this point is going to help discren your alignment.

VOTE: RC
This is a really sketchy way to push a narrative.
I was just saying how I feel. Why do you feel like I'm not telling the full story?
How you feel huh?

How do you feel about JarJar?
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:07 pm

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Hey MBG. Why did you not immediately jump to the conclusino that I was scum on day start?
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 1304, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1303, mattblackguy wrote:You unvoted after you voted RC
I was messing with Pine :lol:
An eerie music slowly builds, a sound like that produced from an old music box, or perhaps a street organ grinder. Thin, scratchy lyrics are piped into the abandoned factory:

All around the mulberry bush,
The monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey thought ’twas all in good fun,
Pop! goes the weasel.

A penny for a spool of thread,
A penny for a needle—
That's the way the money goes,
Pop! goes the weasel.

Jimmy’s got the whooping cough
And Timmy’s got the measles.
That’s the way the story goes,
Pop! goes the weasel.

I've no time to wait and sigh
No patience to wait 'til by and by
Kiss me quick, I'm off, goodbye!
Pop! Goes the weasel


At the last
POP!
, a previously-hidden hatch opens in the wall, just large enough to admit a cruelly-barbed crossbow bolt, which flies with unerring accuracy to skewer Lil Uzi Vert through the meaty part of his thigh. Try as he might, there is no way to remove the projectile without excruciating agony.

Mocking your host will NOT be tolerated. You are here as my guests and are required to enjoy my hospitality. Further impertinence will be dealt with savagely.

I would leave that where it is. Tt will cause more damage coming out than going in. Unless it hit the femoral artery. Then you're fucked.


A tense minute or so ticks by.

Haven't bled out yet? Apparently it didn't hit the artery. Pity. That sumbitch can bleed a man dry in minutes. You'll live, for a little while, long enough for the Pick Me Up in your bloodstream to do its work.

Speaking of work and time running out, GET BACK TO WORK!
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

Act 3, Scene 1 of
Julius Caesar
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 819, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Vifam probably isn't scum sadly.

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VOTE: Matt
In post 822, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 820, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
In post 815, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I really don't like last part of this reply. Does it sound sarcastic to anyone else?
Hard to tell in text - if he had said "Suuuuuuure I care" then, yeah, sarcastic, if he had said "Sure I care" then, no. Can't tell without tonal inflections.
In post 819, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Vifam probably isn't scum sadly.

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VOTE: Matt
Could you tell me whyI should sheep onto Matt and also why you didn't sheep onto Transcend?
I don't really do cases, just reasons:

His joking around with Gerry earlier felt forced.
His vote for Grendel also felt forced. It read to me like he sensed he needed to do a strong town motivated play at the time to discourage any suspicion.
I didn't like how he just sort of shrugged of the chance to get a better idea of RC's alignment who he claims he's wary of.
I don't like how he opened today, feels like he should be voting for RC or Keyser.

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As to why I didn't sheep you on to Transcend is because I don't really have a read on your slot and from what I remember of D1, Transcend didn't come off as scummy.
Votes Matt early doors.


Why jump off this wagon where all your reasons sound like you've convinced yourself of Matt = scum?
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:13 pm

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In post 1279, Keyser Söze wrote:Hoping to sort you this weekend LUV :) If anyone has concrete reads on the following 3 players please share:

LUV
Mattblack
JarJar


My JarJar read is a weird one - I feel like he's town as per his town meta but I still don't trust him.
I think I need a flip within these three.

For now... VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert


I think I'm caught up in confirmation bias.
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 1314, nancy wrote:Why only 1 scum in {Keyser, JJD, Sheep}?
Cause LUV, and Vifam are scum.

I don't see scum motivation in his play, and he actually does look like he's try to figure shit out. Seems like to me all the questions he asks is try to help him better read players, and not a facade. Whether those questions are good or bad questions is kinda irrelevant imo. All the matters is the motivation behind the question, and I see town motivation.

(^This is about Grendel^)
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:20 pm

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I sadly won't be voting Vifam at all this game unless there is a GUILTY/incriminating evidence on him.
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 1327, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey MBG. Why did you not immediately jump to the conclusino that I was scum on day start?
I didn't understand the reason why you didn't reveal you weren't fakeclaiming after the reaction test. I wanted to better understand that to see where your motivations were.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:21 pm

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I mean yes but you just saw me as scum in a game where I lied about things constantly. I feel like you would have jumped to the conclusion that I was scum for lying, no? Why is this different?
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:22 pm

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In post 1330, Keyser Söze wrote:I think I'm caught up in confirmation bias.
Nah he's scum
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:22 pm

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Whenever Grendel isn't posting I get scum feels, but as soon as he posts I get town feels.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 1335, mattblackguy wrote:
In post 1330, Keyser Söze wrote:I think I'm caught up in confirmation bias.
Nah he's scum
The confirmation bias is in regard yours and JarJars associations with LUV ( through his posts).


Will need to sort you and JarJar now.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:26 pm

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In post 1334, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean yes but you just saw me as scum in a game where I lied about things constantly. I feel like you would have jumped to the conclusion that I was scum for lying, no? Why is this different?
That's only one game, and I have no idea what your town play is like. Only your scum play. Which is probably why I was more inclined to scumread you because the two seem pretty similar
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 1337, Keyser Söze wrote:The confirmation bias is in regard yours and JarJars associations with LUV ( through his posts).
Oh ok. May be jumping the gun a bit, but who do you think is the 3rd scum?
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:32 pm

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If LUV and JarJar flip scum, it will look bad for you. D1 you scum read JarJar hard. Start of D2 he was then a town read. And now he's back in your list of players that you'd happily lynch.

This is all association theory though. One flip at a time.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:41 pm

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@Grendel - the issues is the point of calling Rauth scum for buying into RC's claim yet also immediately buying into Rauth's claim when you, theoretically, suspect him. It's not a bonfire of hypocrisy, but it's at least a flame.

@RC - I don't get you calling me out for not being a factor in the game as scummy.
So far in this game we've lynched one scum, and run up two claimed PRs (of which I presume you'll calim at least one is confirmed town ;) ) I opposed all three operations - so unless your claim is I'm scum playing hardcore pro-town to avoid lynch (and in which case, why not sheep me a bit, since clearly I'll be hard bussing too...) I don't get the point. Yeah, I haven't been part of any of the major operations that have happened, but that puts me on the town side of history as far as I can see - you disagree?
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:42 pm

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I still don't get why you're scumreading me for not voting someone when the quickhammer came down. I was busy defending Gerry and waiting for a roleclaim. I didn't expect Vifam to hammer, ending D1 prematurely (how many days left did we have til deadline?!) More than half of the player list hadn't contributed to my satisfaction (my reads were thus INCOMPLETE).

How can you be scum reading me, if you'd read Day 1? You should have understood how D1 unfolded.
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:42 pm

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Fair enough. I wasn't planning on pushing you today anyway.
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:43 pm

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In post 1284, Cooperative Sheep wrote:People are giving Nancy too easy of a pass - could someone explain how they perceive her slightly too much info timeline as reality exactly?

@Matt
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@Matt
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Pedit - @RC - okay, I know it's fair, and it's fine that you weren't planning to push me, but do you believe what you said? I don't care if my defense sounds fair, I'm curious why you believe what you said.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:45 pm

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I think that if you are scum you are indeed playing super pro-town and avoiding certain wagons as part of it. Avoiding mine would in general just be a good decision as scum and you came out town on Rautherdir anyway.

I will figure out what my read is on you far later in this game when I know more about the alignments of the people you were actually pushing; because I presume if you were scum you were pushing the wagons onto weaker town.
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:49 pm

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In post 1307, nancy wrote:UGH. Are you fucking kidding me.

He was NEVER going to be lynched. I was pushing that fucking wagon for reactions. Whatever.
How the F was THAT case a reaction test?
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:50 pm

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Sounds like if you think I'm scum you should sheep a lot of my reads, and if it's possible I'm town you should sheep a lot of my reads.

Want to address my Nancy issue now? Maybe sheep me?
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:51 pm

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I mean, seriously, if I'm scum playing to look right all the time - I gotta be bussing at least one buddy, right?
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:51 pm

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No. I think that if you're scum you're pushing the lynch onto weaker town. I think that if you're town you probably don't understand the context I have for townreading Nancy.
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