Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!


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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:19 am

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Oh, so you people are still here? I assumed you'd starved long ago.

Why continue to drag your feet? Choose a victim...I mean, a volunteer, and pull on the cord so you can leave. It really is as simple as that!

VC incoming.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

Act 3, Scene 1 of
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:36 am

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==> Vote Count 2.5 <==

With 11 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!


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Keelhauling was a form of punishment or execution, once meted out to sailors at sea. The sailor was tied to a line that looped beneath the vessel, thrown overboard on one side of the ship, and dragged under the ship's keel, either from one side of the ship to the other, or the length of the ship (from bow to stern). As the hull was usually covered in barnacles and other marine growth, if the offender was pulled quickly, keelhauling would typically result in serious cuts, loss of limbs and even decapitation. If the offending sailor was merely to be punished, they would be keelhauled along the beam (the widest part of the ship), though this could still maim or kill. Keelhauling along the entire length of the ship usually resulted in death, whether from drowning, blunt force trauma, or simply being shredded apart by barnacles.


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Grendel -

[L-6]
Akarin -

[L-6]
Rautherdir -

[L-4]
JarJarDrinks - Akarin, RadiantCowbells

[L-5]
Lil Uzi Vert - mattblackguy

[L-5]
nancy - Cooperative Sheep

[L-6]
Cooperative Sheep -

[L-6]
Keyser Söze -

[L-6]
Vifam -

[L-5]
mattblackguy - Keyser Söze

[L-5]
RadiantCowbells - nancy


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- Rautherdir, Vifam, JarJarDrinks, Grendel, Lil Uzi Vert

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-02-17 18:00:00)
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

Act 3, Scene 1 of
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:40 am

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@Mod: I'm currently voting for RC :P
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:41 am

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You unvoted after you voted RC
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:42 am

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In post 1303, mattblackguy wrote:You unvoted after you voted RC
I was messing with Pine :lol:
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:45 am

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On a serious note, I think scum is in Jar, Matt, Sheep, and Vifam. I can't seem to get a solid read on Akarin.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:50 am

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In post 1291, Vifam wrote:I think JJD is town too I forgot about him
Why are you town reading Jar? Is it for his recent tunneling? If so, what are your thoughts on RC's take on that?
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:54 pm

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UGH. Are you fucking kidding me.

He was NEVER going to be lynched. I was pushing that fucking wagon for reactions. Whatever.

Grendel is scum to me right now. I don't see him genuinely trying to sort alignments in that whole exchange with RC. JJD is scum and one of LUV/matt are scum. Game is pretty much solved imo.

VOTE: JJD
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:58 pm

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Grendel is not scum
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:59 pm

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LUV and JJD are my biggest scumreads atm.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:00 pm

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In post 1269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1198, RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't tell me how I'm supposed to react to your crap.
This is scum flail.

You're just lashing out here in hopes that people will let up. I don't think any amount of pressure at this point is going to help discren your alignment.

VOTE: RC
This is a really sketchy way to push a narrative.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:07 pm

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Yeah I'm glad we saw that in time.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:08 pm

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In post 1310, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1198, RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't tell me how I'm supposed to react to your crap.
This is scum flail.

You're just lashing out here in hopes that people will let up. I don't think any amount of pressure at this point is going to help discren your alignment.

VOTE: RC
This is a really sketchy way to push a narrative.
I was just saying how I feel. Why do you feel like I'm not telling the full story?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:10 pm

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In post 1308, mattblackguy wrote:Grendel is not scum
Why not?
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 1283, mattblackguy wrote:There's only one scum in [Keyser,Jar,Sheep], and I don't think it's Keyser, but I'm not confident enough to give a full Town read so I'm keeping him here just in case.
Why only 1 scum in {Keyser, JJD, Sheep}?

Vifam, why is it that you can't be lynched exactly?
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:26 pm

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Can we please stop the '1 in 3 are scum', '2 in 5 are scum' theories.

I'd prefer to see a scum flip before ruling out partners.
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:32 pm

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Fuck you keyser you're terrible at this game.

I can confirm, with absolute certainty, that there are
3
scum in
the entire game
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:36 pm

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{Rauth, RC, Keyser}
{Akarin}
{Sheep, Vifam}
{LUV, matt}
{JJD, Grendel}

So when I say 1 scum in LUV/matt, that's what that means. It isn't about partners / associatives.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:37 pm

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I apologise RC.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:38 pm

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Cooperative sheep being as irrelevant to the game as he has been makes me believe that he's very likely scum.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:40 pm

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Reading through LUV's 50 post ISO now... on phone so excuse the poor presentation.
In post 100, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 98, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: RC


He should have had @ least 3 hard scumreads that he's pushed insanely strong by now.
This is a bit of a reach here. The game just officially started.
In post 103, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 101, Keyser Söze wrote:Are you being serious Lil Uzi? :giggle:
Yes :nerd:
At the time this felt to me like LUV was giving JarJar a scum read for no reason. "Reach"? JarJar was obviously being sarcastic.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:47 pm

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In post 598, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 183, gerryoat wrote:if i keep them to myself, how can i help town
By not helping scum.
In post 189, gerryoat wrote:how are my reads terrible? how do you know grendel is town?
Why are your reads good? How do you know Grendel's scum?
Are these questions helping Gerry help LUV. No.
In post 599, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.

VOTE: Akarin
Scummy post
No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote? Where are the attempts to dig? Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?
More of LUV scum reading hard on JarJar. Let's see the development of LUV vs JarJar through the game. No vote yet!
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:53 pm

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In post 605, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey mama, I'm all caught up!

I think there are at least two scum within Gerry/Jar/Matt/Vifam.

VOTE: Gerry
Oh no, LUV votes my boyfriend instead. I think his vote should have been on JarJar here.
In post 606, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 604, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 597, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 174, Keyser Söze wrote:Not convinced by Rauth so far. I want to see him upset an active player. Feels like he's trying to play a safe game. Once I see his teeth I may get a better look inside his soul.
Why would seeing him purposely upset active players make you feel better about his alignment?
Upset as in engage in an interaction that demands him to reason out a conflict of reads / ideas / beliefs. I want to see blood.

Not "upset" as in 'your breath stinks of penis'.
I just don't understand why you associate engaging with upset. I think him being himself has been enough so far.
I don't know why LUV was grilling me on this. I had a reason of concern on Rauth. (Rauth has just revealed he was being closed and scummy on purpose so it explains his behaviour perfectly now). I don't know why LUV had to step in and defend Rauth.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:57 pm

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In post 815, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 607, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 599, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.

VOTE: Akarin
Scummy post
No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?
I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.
Where are the attempts to dig?
What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.
Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?
Sure I care.
Well my thing is, why? Just saying it's scummy without backing it up is pointless and arguably will help him in the long run if he's scum. He'll know that whatever he did, said, or how he said something isn't ok and possibly will be able to adjust and blend in better.

I really don't like last part of this reply. Does it sound sarcastic to anyone else?
In post 608, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 606, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I just don't understand why you associate engaging with upset. I think him being himself has been enough so far.
"Engaging" does not = "upsetting". But it is one part of interactions I like to look at.

Part of my concern I am sure you should be able to relate to. You personally asked Rautherdir: "Are you usually this cautious?".

There is one type of mafia playing style I have encountered that Rautherdir has exhibited. Thus, I want to drill down on what he actually is posting (does he believe any of it? is he willing to broadcast those beliefs to everyone? is he willing to cause conflict in order to push his scum-reads?).



"I think him being himself has been enough so far."
- it sounds like you currenty town-read Rautherdir so I'd expect for that to be your default position. Do you have a problem with me wanting more from Rautherdir in order to 'enhance' my read of him?
Yes I currently town read him and I think I do. I'm not completely sure yet because I haven't had a chance to mull it over deeply but from your original request, it seems like you want him to purposely go out of character.
In post 622, Keyser Söze wrote:Point accepted. Please continue.

I'll come back to your slot if you lynch town.
Huh?
For the love of God get your vote on JarJar, you've presented the biggest case on him but not followed through with a vote.

More defending of Rauth. Why was I not allowed to question his suspicious behaviour? He wasn't confirmed town.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:02 pm

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In post 1305, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:On a serious note, I think scum is in Jar, Matt, Sheep, and Vifam. I can't seem to get a solid read on Akarin.
In post 1306, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1291, Vifam wrote:I think JJD is town too I forgot about him
Why are you town reading Jar? Is it for his recent tunneling? If so, what are your thoughts on RC's take on that?
Again... on Day 2..."I think scum is in Jar", "why are you town reading Jar?"

You haven't shown you believe it yet. Where's your vote right now... it was on RC...
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