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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:31 am

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In post 2572, Nosferatu wrote:I don't get how everyone is freaking out about lethality. It's still weaker than flat armor pen was last season, its just not total shit now. The nerfs to literally every lethality item at the start of the season also make the effects of lethality less and less impactful. A build centered entirely around quick powerspikes is now unable to achieve that. I don't understand how apparently every lethality build is broken now.
I'm curious, how is it worse then armor pen?

I mean back in the days of armor pen it was bad because at most you could get ~40.

Now you can easily get 70+ lethality, and because of duskblade the Lethality actually scales fairly decently into even more damage, and with the scaling, you get 60% of this upfront, so even at around 80% scaling (level 9) you can get way more then you could with armor pen.
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:57 am

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Lethality is stupid atm. It isnt really a buff to adc anymore but moreso that any ad damage dealer is prefered over an ap damage dealer.
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:57 am

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In post 2563, Psyche wrote:
In post 2561, animorpherv1 wrote:Don't forget lux.
skillshots + immobility makes for a high-effort pick in low elo
i should keep it simple, right?
the thing with lux is you can solo carry if you one shot someone. if you are good at skillshots she is a good pick, otherwise she isn't great. right now she isn't the best bc of shorter games, but as game time is starting to get longer she will become better
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:17 pm

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in low elo almost every game is a long game
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:45 am

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In post 2578, Psyche wrote:in low elo almost every game is a long game
games are normally 40+ or under 25. people can't push leads well, but they can't play from behind so it will stall unless the team that wins the lane phase plays smart.
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:50 am

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I feel like the ones that go short in low elo are surrenders mostly as well.
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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 2580, JasonWazza wrote:I feel like the ones that go short in low elo are surrenders mostly as well.
normally it is a faceroll into a surrender.
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:29 pm

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so so so
i played a howling abyss game and after the victory i didn't immediately click "continue" or whatever it is one clicks
suddenly, i heard the voice of lissandra, telling the story of how the howling abyss came to be
it was pretty long and as a liss main i really enjoyed it
i wonder if i've just always missed it, or if its place there was new
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:30 pm

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THIS!

The Howling Abyss, a bottomless cavas surrounded by an ancient fortress carved into a glacier.
No one remembers who build this place, no one knows its purpose, no one but me.
Long before ashe and sejuani, before magic shattered the broken peeks.
Before the desert swallowed sohima.
It was the time of the three sisters, we were so young back then Avarosa, Serilda and me Lissandra.
Back then the frozen watchers lived here, we do not know where they came from, but I know they were powerfull.
They gave us gifts, shared their magic, made us immortal.
They named us iceborn.
In return we gave them everything they desired.
This mighty fortress,our empire and loyalty these were a small price to pay.
Everosa did not see it that way, like a spoiled child she cried out freedom.
She demanded choice, she soaked seeds of ombinin, betrail.
This place is were it happend.
On one side the frozen watchers and the other Avarosa and her iceborn horn.
Many Iceborn died that day, but in the end the watchers fell.
Avarosa drove them howling in the abyss.
I never forgave her, I had my revenge, but that is another story
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:48 pm

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yeah no that is old as fuck, just normally most people hit continue too quick.
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:46 am

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http://www.manaless.com/2016/07/predict ... ly-on.html

you can predict the outcome of an ARAM with about 66% accuracy knowing the champions on each team
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:19 am

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i tried karma today and it was good true stoty
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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:30 am

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In post 2575, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 2572, Nosferatu wrote:I don't get how everyone is freaking out about lethality. It's still weaker than flat armor pen was last season, its just not total shit now. The nerfs to literally every lethality item at the start of the season also make the effects of lethality less and less impactful. A build centered entirely around quick powerspikes is now unable to achieve that. I don't understand how apparently every lethality build is broken now.
I'm curious, how is it worse then armor pen?

I mean back in the days of armor pen it was bad because at most you could get ~40.

Now you can easily get 70+ lethality, and because of duskblade the Lethality actually scales fairly decently into even more damage, and with the scaling, you get 60% of this upfront, so even at around 80% scaling (level 9) you can get way more then you could with armor pen.
there's only one new lethality item. Whatever you can get with lethality now, you would have 15 less but get it all upfront, not with lethality where you get like 60% upfront and the rest later. So with armor pen you'd have 70+ but all 100%.
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:03 am

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Don't forget that armor pen champs for the most part couldn't functionally use Duskblade before and that Duskblade scales pff of your lethality.

Also, 60% of 70 lethality is 42. So if you had all those items at level 1 you have about the same about of pen
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:22 am

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In post 2585, Psyche wrote:http://www.manaless.com/2016/07/predict ... ly-on.html

you can predict the outcome of an ARAM with about 66% accuracy knowing the champions on each team
this is why I really dont get why anyone would ever play aram
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:23 am

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winning is a pretty minor thing for aram.
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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:35 am

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aram is so boring
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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:38 am

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In post 2588, animorpherv1 wrote:Don't forget that armor pen champs for the most part couldn't functionally use Duskblade before and that Duskblade scales pff of your lethality.

Also, 60% of 70 lethality is 42. So if you had all those items at level 1 you have about the same about of pen
Not to mention the duskblade scaling is TRUE damage.

And this also comes with a fairly convenient defensive item that is up way too often (edge of night)

Because of that the champions that can one shot you because you have effectively 0 armor have a banshee's veil on them.

And it's not like that itemization hurts you at all, personally i've been finishing the build with Death's Dance and one of Black Cleaver and the last whisper items.

Also speaking of, why are they making Giant's Slayer (and by process of upgrading lord Dominik's) better against slightly healthier champions? (they are changing the passive to give full scaling at 500 health higher rather then 1000 health higher)

That change just feels like it will punish mages that try and build Liandry's/Rylai's/RoA/Hextech items, which sadly is most mages.
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:41 am

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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:31 pm

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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:17 pm

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I dont see it under the tutorials option. Am I missing something?
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:22 pm

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It's under training

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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 2592, JasonWazza wrote: Also speaking of, why are they making Giant's Slayer (and by process of upgrading lord Dominik's) better against slightly healthier champions? (they are changing the passive to give full scaling at 500 health higher rather then 1000 health higher)

That change just feels like it will punish mages that try and build Liandry's/Rylai's/RoA/Hextech items, which sadly is most mages.
I feel more like its the fact that the majority of adcs are total shit right now and get steamrolled by every tank in the game.
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:17 pm

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whats old and new client?

I dont understand.
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:18 pm

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The open beta vs manually downgrading back to the old client (for streaming/toasters)
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