Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

Cakez, did you have the alignments when you were spectating that game?

No, but I don't see how that's relevant.

The divergence from Town Cakez at this point is pretty large. Walking Dead is a perfect example of Town SirCakez. There he was active, had opinions, pointed out specific posts and provided reasons why they are scum indicative on a regular basis. There is no engagement here. He pops in to make so very weak posts and is just going with the flow. The “I’m skimming how are we not lynching in the three Vigs” episode shows. He isn’t reading the game for any level of comprehension because as scum he doesn’t have to actually get reads ... he just has to find things he can frame as scummy or that make him look more Town.

Yeah and Walking Dead was over the summer/start of school. I have 1/4 of the time now, so I can't exactly get very engaged. My posting is down sitewide.

I've already called out Aella's bad reads, you're missing the point.

No, I’m really not. Here is every instance where Aella is mentioned in your ISO.
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Yup that’s the depth of your discussion with Aella. You keep lobbing weak questions at him (where did you get the scum-pool from as an example) and when he says PoE you just drop the matter entirely. And you haven’t followed up with the fact that their level of content has not changed at all from when you said “You wanted to hear more from their slot”. If I wanted to show an example of textbook weak distancing this looks to me like a great place to start.

I pretty clearly called out their crappy reads in those posts.
And I'm still scumreading the slot, so no clue what you're saying here. My vote is still there too. [/quote]

After reading up I don't have a townread on RC because I know he could easily fake all of this but the wagon on him was full of sketchy people and votes, particularly Aella's sneak-in and Gin's basically OMGUS. MoI voting RC for AtEing (which is super NAI for him, and I'm pretty sure MoI knows that) is also sketchy. I think regardless of his alignment there was scum on that wagon within those three.

So you refuses to commit to a Town read on RC but you are concluding that there is scum on the wagon. Speaking of holding your options open …

Yes, because there's this thing called bussing.

Then my bad.

That said
RC your guilty isn't fake?

How does this not get more votes? He’s just finished telling Pine that RC always fake-claims guilties. And the fact that Frozen already claimed Messenger already means there is no chance RC has a “real” Daycop guity much less the fact that I’d doubt Cakez has ever seen an actual Daycop in his games.

RC made this post:

Like I am so, so certain that you are scum this game but you are still not at the level that I would fakeclaim a guilty on you.

which made it look like his claimed guilty on Gin wasn't fake
So yeah I was confused!

[eagerSnake]

We already have 4 PR claims

[eagerSnake]

actually 5 if you count leonshade's "my role pm confirms existence of spyro"

[Infinity 324]

I skipped over your spoiled posts but I'm assuming there's explanations for this in there?

Yeah

[Infinity 324]

which made it look like his claimed guilty on Gin wasn't fake

He meant he wouldn't seriously fakeclaim a guilty.

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's hurry up the gradual realization that Gin is a scumfuck and let's see some votes amirite.

[Infinity 324]

You could've helped along the process

But if you're going to pretend to be Fate and have me make my cases for you, then fine...

Actually I'm still not convinced on gin though. Tonight I'll try to go at his ISO from an unbiased perspective.

[Infinity 324]

@lane So just to get this straight, you think the nitpicking is a normal part of your playstyle as both alignments, but your tone has changed for you from your normal tone as either alignment?

[Infinity 324]

@cakez Can you explain why hunger games made you think gin could fake his play here? I didn't read the whole ISO there but he seemed much different.

[Infinity 324]

@gin Can you elaborate more on why you refrained from voting RC until he said he had a guilty on you?

[Infinity 324]

@RC Why do you think gin bothered pushing you & FA, especially early on

[RadiantCowbells]

To try and look town by looking like they were trying to scumhunt. Duh.

[Infinity 324]

I guess I feel like he would've gotten the sense that you weren't a good target to pick on at some point. Why didn't he just say "the reaction looks genuine" or something and then unvote?

[RadiantCowbells]

Gin is obviously highly confident in his scumplay and it shows this game. I don't think he fully understood how big of a threat that me and FA were. Slightly less threatening as town without FA but I'll do my best.

[Infinity 324]

Do you think he realized later on how threatening you are and that's why he did go at you as hard?

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I don't think he backed down because of that, I think he backed down because he knew it was futile and potentially dangerous.

[Infinity 324]

Ok

You guys may be right that my reasons for townreading RC are bad. I just expected him to say the things we wanted to hear and...just actually do something to defuse the pressure instead of the AtE which didn't seem to be working. It's possible my expectations of his play are off though.

I don't like that he stopped commenting on people's reads on him, but maybe that's cause he just wants to focus on gin...

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Gin is obviously highly confident in his scumplay and it shows this game. I don't think he fully understood how big of a threat that me and FA were. Slightly less threatening as town without FA but I'll do my best.

Entire case revolves around ego

That or you're tunneling because you can't actually produce reads

It's not like scum has never tunneled a townie so they don't have to do jackshit that game.

It sounds true when people ask you for reads and you actually don't say anything and keep saying lynch gin with no reasons than "Gin didn't realize he should fear me"

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also I backed down because people told me it was NAI because you did it every game, not because of you as a player, but nice misrep of the events of the game to spin a narrative that shines you in the lime light.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Let's hurry up the gradual realization that Gin is a scumfuck and let's see some votes amirite.

Also I'm going to keep pointing out what I see.

The tone here sounds fake with the words of using "gradual' and "amirite."

If you truly thought I was scum, you'd be giving reasons why I'm scum, you'd show how X leads to Y meaning I'm scum, and you wouldn't make it casual and almost a whimsical tone in telling people to vote me.

[Infinity 324]

Gin I don't get your read progression on RC

You thought E&A were scummy but didn't want to vote them because of their claim? And then you voted him when he jokingly claimed a guilty on you? And now he's scum?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

@gin Can you elaborate more on why you refrained from voting RC until he said he had a guilty on you?

Well, just because someone suddenly scumreads me, it doesn't mean I have to vote them and argue with them, I can argue what their scum read is without also trying to kill them.

It's only when she produced the guilty that it's either scum or she's lying as town to push something she legit doesn't know and I'm blacklisting because I don't play with people doing moves that are unethical. Pushing a mislynch on the grounds of fake information will always be worthy of a vote.

[Infinity 324]

The daycop claim wasn't serious...

[Infinity 324]

So what was your read on RC when you were arguing with him?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also I held onto the thing that they were a friendly neighbor, once it was conf! that they were in no way able to prove they were actually town through the ability, she's back to being a toss up like anyone else.

Infinity, it was purposefully producing fake information to produce a case. RC was an angry little demon yesterday, if she meant it as a joke then that would imply she was actually cool headed during all that and was faking everything.