Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[Ælla Was Spine]

Oh and before I forget - why Leonshade's "I know Spyro is in the game" means he can quite possibly be scum?

Say hello to the Zach role from Gumball Mafia ...

That's actually really interesting, flavor wise is there anyone who is the opposite of Spyro?

[Elsa and Anna]

>.>

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... y_Neighbor

yeah

During Dota Mafia design reallo told a wrong name for this role to me then, I was using this shit for a long time now >.>

We are a messenger - the role that sends a message but won't confirm us directly.

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

I never saw a game with that role ever

how the fuck is that role normal - its too OP

#Elsa

[Ælla Was Spine]

Nah Id say it's pretty balanced, scum have to keep atleast one townie alive to keep the role useful

[Elsa and Anna]

are we talking about the same thing?

#Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

you are talking about the enabler thing

I was talking about freindly neighbour

#Elsa

[massive]

are you saying that your catch-up posts didn’t see a single thing worthy of commentary from Page 14 to 24 (your first catch-up post comment is from Page 26)?

If I recall correctly most of what I thought about saying got said pretty quickly. No sense me repeating it 20 pages later.

Elsa's role sounds like a fruit vendor where they can modify the fruit.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Can someone tell me the benefit of telling not Mafia my flavor in the neighborhood chat when I told him I won't use it unless I can use it as a masonry?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I don't get the point of trying to fish for information privately while doing nothing in the thread.

Also I find it strange that NF will claim he hates neighborhoods but starts to role fish with he hates

[Leonshade]

Who's scum?

I don't know. Still OK with my vote on Spammers. Maybe Not_Mafia. I think Magna is town, and AElla (this looks similar to vifam-town). Probably need a bit to get a handle on Cakez and Flubber. And I need to not forget that you tricked me in the last game we played together. I can't decide whether FA wants me to townread her because she's treating me like shit, but that play lost us Villains U-Pick, so YMMV.

Explain your townread on Magna. You had to ask what scum!Magna looks like, so what makes you think this isn't scum!Magna?

Who's scum?

I don't know. Still OK with my vote on Spammers. Maybe Not_Mafia. I think Magna is town, and AElla (this looks similar to vifam-town). Probably need a bit to get a handle on Cakez and Flubber. And I need to not forget that you tricked me in the last game we played together. I can't decide whether FA wants me to townread her because she's treating me like shit, but that play lost us Villains U-Pick, so YMMV.

Scumposting.

10 town points to whoever explains why without me having to

The reads look non-committal. I'm not sure that's a scumtell for massive, though, never known him to have strong opinions early on.

[SirCakez]

To lynch them, same as every other slot

And what about getting a claim or defense from the slot, hmmm?

P-Edit: @Cakez, I know you dont want to vote an empty slot but how does that condition make one town or scum? Considering there was actually discussion held before that?

See above.

massive wagon should be massive rn

What's the reasoning for this beyond lurking? (which is massive 101)

I mean we basically know nothing about what YOU think. Give some content.

Does this look like Town talking to a scum read to you? Sir Cakez’s vote was on Aella at this point. Looks very much like “Be more Town” to a partner.

I can see where your other parts of your read on me come from but this is bogus. I have literally never seen scum perform a "psst psst be more town" kind of post in thread and I'm pretty sure that means you haven't either. It's just a bogus scumtell, like AtE.

[massive]

Explain your townread on Magna. You had to ask what scum!Magna looks like, so what makes you think this isn't scum!Magna?

I asked because you seemed to indicate you couldn't tell the difference between town-Magna and scum-Magna. I was looking for more information on your thought process, which I got. As for me townreading Magna, I felt like I liked his opening posts, most assuredly calling E&A for their hydra dissonance / early play, but also how he keeps working to interact with other players but in the scope of his main scumread / vote.

[massive]

I think I lurk a lot less than most people try and push. I most certainly always keep fully read. If you want to run me up for not posting a thousand words every day, you can feel free, ain't gonna change that fact that I just can't post nonsense fifty times a day.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Can someone tell me the benefit of telling not Mafia my flavor in the neighborhood chat when I told him I won't use it unless I can use it as a masonry?

No. So specifically he’s asking you to spill flavor in the Neighborhood despite his “Down with Hoods” stance in the actual thread?

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I can see where your other parts of your read on me come from but this is bogus. I have literally never seen scum perform a "psst psst be more town" kind of post in thread and I'm pretty sure that means you haven't either. It's just a bogus scumtell, like AtE.

So you just want to shuffle to the side the fact that you were not approaching Aella in that post like a Town player would approach an actual scum-read? Ok.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Yeah pretty much, once I told him no he asked me what the big deal was about not saying flavor. I'll say it once I'll say it again, I'm not using a hood until I can treat it like a masonry.

[Not_Mafia]

I want to know if your flavour makes sense with mine

[Ælla Was Spine]

How is Cakez asking me to provide more content a scumtell? Gin asked the same thing of me, so did Snake. @MoI

- Vifam

[Not_Mafia]

It's the way he did it and cos he's scum

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

What is the neccesity and what is the gain from "knowing if your flavor matches up with mine?"

There is no real gain.

[Leonshade]

UNVOTE:

My role PM confirms the existence of Spyro in this game.

you mean it confirms that flavor is town?

I don't know flavor but it seems main character

#Elsa

The only thing I'm confirmed is that Spyro is in this game, so I know it's not a fakeclaim.

If flavor is linked to alignment, it's town.

Don't want to vote a D1 vig claim regardless.

P-edit: What's your flavor Spammers?

There are 2 factions. Loyal to spyro, and forces of evil. I have a very uneasy feeling about the bolded and I've been rereading it trying to figure out why. There's a certain hesitation to call spyro Town here, and I really don't know why that is. Leon, does your roll pm that mentions spyro not make it clear what alignment he is? Or the fact that "loyal to spyro" is town faction, and spyro being scum seems a little bastard.

No, Spyro's alignment isn't confirmed to me. I didn't even realize town faction was called "loyal to Spyro" until you mentioned it. Spyro being scum despite the town faction being called that would be delicious exact wording/rules lawyering, but you're right that it wouldn't make much sense. I didn't assume that Spyro is confirmed town because I figured a clever mod might be misleading with a role like this and make the other side scum.

You're cherrypicking 781 when I was expressing solid SRs on Snake and Spammers before Snake's claim.

Actually this response shows exactly why I find 781 convenient. Snake based on his claim is a null factor – reasonable for either Town or Scum to make that unvote. EA to my eye is buddying – nothing inherently not fake-able out of that slot at all. Gin probably similar – he has the “approval” of Snake so no need to “rock the boat”. And your quasi-back-off on Raging based on Snake’s very incomplete and weak meta doesn’t scream Town Leon.

Gin is the first townread I had, without checking I'm pretty sure I expressed it within my first few posts. Where have I claimed that I'm backing off because of Snake's meta? I started having doubts because I'm not sure the weird CC-gambit, more specifically bringing attention to it when no one noticed, doesn't make much sense for scum.

Oh and before I forget - why Leonshade's "I know Spyro is in the game" means he can quite possibly be scum?

Say hello to the Zach role from Gumball Mafia ...

"Quite possibly" scum? I'm quite possibly scum every game, do you think my claim increases the chances of me being scum? No one has claimed that my claim makes me town (well, Vifam did, but that was about my decision to claim, not the thing I'm claiming), so it's not like you're refuting some false notion.

[Not_Mafia]

One would think neighbour's flavour would line up

[MagnaofIllusion]

I want to know if your flavour makes sense with mine

Oh that's why ... to see if flavor makes sense.

Despite the fact that if Gin was scum in your Neighborhood he would have a fake-claim flavor name to go along with it via TTH's standard Mod procedure ...

Why didn't you just ask it out here in the open since you hate Neighborhoods?

[Leonshade]

Can someone tell me the benefit of telling not Mafia my flavor in the neighborhood chat when I told him I won't use it unless I can use it as a masonry?

I don't get the point of trying to fish for information privately while doing nothing in the thread.

Also I find it strange that NF will claim he hates neighborhoods but starts to role fish with he hates

That sounds suspicious, reminds me of when I was pinged by Creature when I found out he was far more open in a Lover PT while he was largely avoiding the main thread (and he was scum).

[Leonshade]

One would think neighbour's flavour would line up

Nevermind, that makes sense.

[Not_Mafia]

I want to know if your flavour makes sense with mine

Oh that's why ... to see if flavor makes sense.

Despite the fact that if Gin was scum in your Neighborhood he would have a fake-claim flavor name to go along with it via TTH's standard Mod procedure ...

Why didn't you just ask it out here in the open since you hate Neighborhoods?

More likely scum has a list of fakeclaims with no knowledge of my flavour

And cos why not try in there first, he can take it to the thread if he wants (as he has)