Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

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/confirm

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rip

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Dont worry I'll tell you in the PT

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Add another 10 for a solid double digit

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VOTE: mattblackguy

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Oh I didn't even notice you were an alt

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Everyone thinks they're unreadable

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I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.

VOTE: Akarin

VOTE: Rauthedir

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Whatever makes you happy

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I thought we were just fucking around

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lmao

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Anime nerds are so misunderstood

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Grendel is maf with Alisae. my reads are on point this game

you think so

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That's weird I tend to keep all my thoughts to myself

Different playstyles I guess

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Good point @____@

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I didn't like that post either mostly because you felt the need to tell us you were gonna vote someone in RVS, which feels like a newbscum or newbtown thing, I haven't really figured it out yet

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RC is kind of annoying

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I feel you bruh it's a steady climb up the ladder

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So far Keysar feels town


RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh

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Who else thinks Keysar is obv town

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The only other person I've seen say is Alisae so far

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If I had to put money on it Id say RC is town, I dont wanna lynch Gerry or RC today tho

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Why do you not want to lynch Gerry? He seems a perfectly fine lynch option.

I like Gerry

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I just like having Gerry in the game he's entertaining

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I guess


RC didn't really sell me with her argument on Gerry being scum, although I did get town vibes from RC from the conversation


I could be convinced to lynch Gerry as the day goes on but I don't think he's done anything scummy yet

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Plus I just like him

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Nah I just don't think they could be scum on the same team


I've never played with Gerry before but personally I didn't really take RC's cop claim that seriously

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You did indicate though that you were not sure which was more likely to flip scum while also saying that you town read RC from the exchange - am I misunderstanding something there?

That was if I had to bet on one of them being town Id go for RC, but atm I don't have a strong read on Gerry so I don't really feel like lynching him right now.

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I'll sheep Grendal tho Im cool with that

VOTE: Grendal

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Damm I didn't know he was that close to a lynch

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I think Rau's reaction to people voting him was town, he seemed to seek to understand and not get completely defensive like newbscum would usually get in that situation

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Seems like a lot of waffling for some reason.

I never said I was interested in lynching either of you so I don't see how im waffling

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You guys put too much into "noobscum would do this. noob town would do that" it's really bad. he could just be an alt

Yeah but I think the way he handled the wagon on him looked town so

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I think Rau's reaction to people voting him was town, he seemed to seek to understand and not get completely defensive like newbscum would usually get in that situation

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Also I would say on the other hand that newb!Town are way more likely to get defensive where newb!Scum are more likely to negotiate their way out, or am I wrong?

I've always seen it the other way around


Town are usually much more willing to come to an understanding if they feel like they aren't being unfairly persecuted. Scum tend to either just be like fuck you or lessen their activity

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uh ok fair enough lol

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Yes there are exceptional newbies who react well to being wagoned and try to sort people on it well and get townread off of it as town but they are certainly the exception rather than the rule.

I can't really argue with your experience but newbtown usually give off a confused "why me" vibe when they're getting voted, while scum tend to throw accusations in attempt to dissuade people from their lynch

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I honestly didn't know if you're being sarcastic I didn't even wanna ask

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Try using italics next time

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wow RC you are

such

a great player

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I don't see how I've been wishy washy about Gerry, never said I was interested in lynching him or thought he was scum

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oh ok

Rauth/RC/Sheep/Key feel town everyone else Im not sure

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You'd be surprised tbh

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Tbh I just voted for you cuz I felt like sheeping

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UNVOTE:

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It is alarming how fast your wagon popped up, I didn't even realize you were at L1

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Tbh I just voted for you cuz I felt like sheeping

You felt like sheeping 17 pages into the game but didn't feel like it at that start.

Why?

I figured Rau was town by then and just wanted to apply pressure somewhere else

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It is alarming how fast your wagon popped up, I didn't even realize you were at L1

Sheep's vote was the turning point for my wagon's pick up.

Yay/Nay?

I thought him and jarjar were the only ones voting you

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VOTE: JarJar

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I don't like his vote on Grendal

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Yeah but like Grendal said on this page it's weird how he points out Grendal made a good point about Rau, but goes on to vote him without a word

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I think sheep is town

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I think jjd is town

Why

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Im not really getting that vibe tbh

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@JarJar whats your read on Grendal now

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Im gonna hammer it

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Pine get ready bro

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You think I wont?

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Say I wont

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I double dog dare you.

VOTE: Gerry

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/kanyeshrug

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Yeah that was a bad move on my part Im not gonna lie

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Yeah I had the same reaction when I saw Gerry's flip lmfao

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iirc I didn't like his vote on Grendal after he said they shared the same sentiments about something, I thought it was sketchy that he'd hop on the Grendal at that point.


Honestly tho the fact the fact that he's voting RC and not me right now out the gate probably means he's town

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I think RC is town, I could see Matt flipping scum here

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Nah I think Im gonna survive this day regardless

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Im not a PR I just know there is an angel watching over me that wont let me be mislynched today

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Amen

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I do kind of have a feeling Sheep is right about Transcend here though

VOTE: Transcend

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Actually why was Keysar not the nightkill

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Alisae is a weird kill seeing as most people had key widely townread, I don't remember anyone having any strong townreads from Alisae

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Im not too hung up on it

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RC's claim was never that serious

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Ok idk why you think anyone is going to take a cop claim six pages in seriously

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No I have no idea what you're getting at

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@__@

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So basically you're a modified cop but we've gotta go through two night phases to get an actual result

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Do I understand it now, sensei?

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You'd be surprised

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Fear of Doc or a status quo kill would be my working theory.
What's yours?

Honestly I think my reads are just probably shit and I fucked up tbh

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This is the first time I genuinely feel like I fucked things up in a game Im actually kind of annoyed with myself now that Im actually dealing with this in D2

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RC is town
I think JarJar's reaction to RC's fakeclaim today as cop was town
Grendal is reading town too


The scum is in Matt/Transcend/Akarin/Uzi I think but honestly Transcend's recent posting feels town


That leaves Keysar and Sheep, Keysar read strongly town to me at first though. I thought Sheep was town but Im having my doubts now because of Transcend

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I thought Rauth was town D1 too

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UNVOTE:

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I don't see why Transcend would pull the bait and switch on just now @_@

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I felt his line of questioning and thought process D1 felt town, I didn't get the feeling he wasn't genuinely looking for scum

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I guess that could be faked but you'd have to convince me cuz I didn't really feel it

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The fact that Keyser didn't make a vote outside of RVS yet was still active is a little concerning.

idk the day ended pretty quick and not everyone drops their vote every other post

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When did I make an emotional appeal

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The obvious one would have been with the "Aw man, I screwed up, I feel bad" post - which is arguably an emotional appeal to make us go "yes, i too remember times I've screwed up in games and felt bad" in an attempt to get sympathy and avoid a lynch.

Oh yeah I can see that

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Matt's a mislynch.

Also, if you thought it was my birthday today, i mixed up the date.

Why is Matt a mislynch

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VOTE: Vifam

I was part way through catching up when that stupid hammer came down. Just after reading about how Vifam didn't want to lynch either RC or Gerry.

My other scumread is Rautherdir.

Why do you scumread Rauth

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What was Rauth calling SvT?

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Yeah

How is him not being sure if it was TvT or TvS scummy?

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Seeing as Gerry got lynched most people seemed to think it was a SvT situation there

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I just did it cuz Transcend dared me to

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It doesn't read like it was SvT.

Yeah but how would Rauth know that at that point in the game lol


VOTE: Akarin

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Yeah I was just the hammer, there were like 7 other people on that lynch

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Because the reasoning for your read on Rauth doesn't make sense, mixed with the obvious "Vifam is scum cuz he hammered and that's so anti town" thing you're not looking too good here

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Feels like you rolled in the thread hopped on my wagon and threw on a scumread on Rauth so it didn't look like you weren't just trying to push my lynch along


What were your thoughts on the game before you read my hammer

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I was scumreading you before you hammered. The hammer just seals it.

why were you scumreading me

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why are you saying I just rolled in here now?

what do you mean

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My wagon really isn't random

If you're scum you have every reason to push my wagon along based on the reasoning that I was so anti-town that I had to be scum, several other people already have

Im sure you can remember why you scumread me before my hammer, you're voting me now so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to atleast tell me how exactly you felt about me prior

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Everyone else already left your wagon.

Yeah that's true, doesn't change the fact that if you're scum you'd have every reason to push on me, literally everyone aside from Uzi, Keysar, JJD and I think Rauth has voted me at some point. It's not like im widely townread by any means so it's not like you're risking anything with a vote on me.

But your reasoning on Rauth is pretty bad I don't really think not remembering your thoughts from D1 is an excuse for that

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You said you had a scumread on me before the hammer, what about my play before then was scummy to you?

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VOTE: Akarin

... You know, I'm getting the feeling that you're chainsawing. What does everyone else think about Transcend and Vifam both being scum?

VOTE: Transcend

Life is never that simple :'(

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How do you feel about Akarin @ RC

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Join the Akarin wagon imo

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She's earned some serious pressure

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@___@

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Why do you think Akarin is town

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Matt's not really that bad of a lynch tho

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I don't think anyone mentioned her inactivity

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Im on her mostly for her reasoning about Rauth being bad

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It's ok bro ill post the quotes for you

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It's been a couple days and I forgot some stuff, but I think it was mostly unvoting for me without voting for someone else even though the only reason to initially vote for me was that I hadn't posted, and calling it SvT or TvS but they weren't sure which and saying they wanted more people to talk about it when it looked TvT.

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It doesn't really make sense because how is Rauth thinking Gerry vs RC is SvT at that point in the game scummy? A few other players did and she doesn't get on anyone else for it.

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Nah I think Rauth is town still

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It doesn't really make sense because how is Rauth thinking Gerry vs RC is SvT at that point in the game scummy? A few other players did and she doesn't get on anyone else for it.

It's not scummy to think that there may be scum in our 1v1. What is scummy is sitting there being yeah there's definitely a scum in there but I don't really have any coherent thoughts about who it is but hey look at that juicy 1v1 there's bound to be some scum in there let's lynch them.

AFAIR no one else was that vague. A ton of people said 'Hey I think that's TvS and that Gerry is scum here', a few people said it's TvT, but Rautherdir was the only one who was totally blase and just like YEAH THERE'S SCUM IN THAT JUICY 1v1 RIPE FOR THE MISLYNCH PICKINGS.

Yeah okay, that makes more sense than what she was saying tho

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Nah Uzi made the exact same point so It just wasn't me there I think

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its ok

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I actually was looking forward to an answer tho ngl

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That's cool it's like your a psychologist

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Idk I thought the way Rauth reacted to his wagon on D1 was town, he is ignoring the wagon on Matt though which I dont really like

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Personally I just dont have a strong townread on him so I could see him flipping scum

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@___@

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Who do you think it will be

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Would still lynch keyser but I'm prob the only one.

His page 33 really looks like faux analysis lol

It's dramatic to me I really wouldn't call ti fake

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Yeah im really feeling Rauth is town

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I agree

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What happened to Akarin

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UNVOTE:

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I think you're town now honestly idk what to do in this game

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VOTE: Transcend

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Forgot to prodge

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I don't think so

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So what exactly changed your mind in those couple posts?

Your reaction seemed town and Im willing to admit that I misunderstood what you were saying about Rauth, also I read your ISO and your frustration with the early hammer felt genuinely town.

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I think there's a good chance he'll flip scum but really im not that sure

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How many days do we have until the deadline

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Welp it's too late for me to give that big of a fuck but I'll try

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So we have time ok lemme give some effort

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UNVOTE:

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Yeah I knew Rauth was town lol

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Aside from the lurking and the quickhammer my townreads have been pretty right so far

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Last time I checked I had Rauth/RC/Grendal/Akarin/Keysar on my town pile

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I think JJD is town too I forgot about him

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Scum are in Sheep/LUV/Nancy/Matt imo

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In hindsight I guess I could be wrong about Keysar but eh

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im in too many games and I feel like I should replace out of this one since I'm not paying enough attention to this one I'm gonna replace out, sorry my friends

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good game pals