Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[RadiantCowbells]

I promise you you sitting there and pushing one me makes me play a ridiculous amount worse.

[JarJarDrinks]

I promise you you sitting there and pushing one me makes me play a ridiculous amount worse.

this sounds ATE and makes me want to push more.

I'm doing my catchup and am gonna post my thoughts. If by the time I'm all caught up, I don't think there's any real chance you're getting lynched today (which as of 3 pages ago, seems to be the case), I'll resign myself to the fact that you're gonna live @ least 1 more day and will start trying to figure out who my 2nd lynch choice for today is.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean it is AtE. It's also true.

No, there's no chance that I'm getting lynched today so please just leave me alone and let me focus on my stuff.

[JarJarDrinks]

Why did you felt the need to put it on record?

I already answered this: Cause that's how mafia is played.

[Transcend]

Hi

[Transcend]

Jjd and rc is tvt

I can't read Vifam

[Vifam]

I agree

[Cooperative Sheep]

I think now that I pointed it out it should be clear that I was suspecting Gerry early with my posts, You disagree?

Yeah, I do. You offered some general stabs at him in a soft/jokey manner. You did the same to many other people - if you suspected him at best I would be able to create a list of about five or six names you suspected equally. The vote did feel out of nowhere and without support.

I’m not sure where a stand on you, currently. I can’t help but feel that you have been manipulative.

Why?
I have literally not acheived any of my stated lynch goals yet in this game - what am I manipulating? Unless I manipulated you into voting Gerry somehow...?

I feel like you're trying to do more to prove me dumb rather then prove me scum. If that makes sense.

No, I'm not with you on that - I just asked why you think I'm manipulative. Do you feel I'm trying to manipulate you/make you look dumb by asking why you think I'm manipulative? I think when you make the accusation you ought to be able to talk about it to some degree - or at least tell me it's just a gut vibe or something.

Still owe 38+

[Keyser Söze]

Apologies for my non-activity.

My re-read of Rauth, Sheep and JarJar is next.

[JarJarDrinks]

Jjd and rc is tvt

TvT is something usually used to describe 2 people who are scumreading each other. I'm only pushing RC. This feels like a misrep of what's happening in the game.

Not to mention the fact that you've already said that you townread us both. Which makes this post pointless.

And you ignored what I said about how you townreading both RC and Matt makes no sense. Feel like responding?

[Cooperative Sheep]

Cause like look @ this first post of the day from Matt:

VOTE: Vifam

RC, why didn't you reveal it was just a reaction test, and you weren't actually the cop yesterday?

It doesn't really make sense that his first reaction to Gerrys flip is that RC was reaction testing. Like shouldn't he have considered that RC was scum that got caught fakeclaiming? Especially considering that he soon starting pushing RC-scum soon after.

RC scum still makes more sense. But Town RC/Town Matt makes no sense.

This is a really good point, that I agree with - I'll move Matt into an acceptable lynch slot now.
Don't feel the Rauth hate.
Still think Transcend is very scummy.

[JarJarDrinks]

Still think Transcend is very scummy.

Yeah. Especially how he ignored that post of mine after going on and on about how he wanted someone to case matt:

Sorta

What's the case on matt tho

Is there no actual case on the dude

Unless I'm given a case that could negate my theory then i probably won't waver my read.

[JarJarDrinks]

Unless I'm given a case that could negate my theory then i probably won't waver my read.

Lol, here's his theory:

I feel it's mostly just gut like i really can't explain this one, but everything about this guy screams "mislynch!"

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Transcend

[Cooperative Sheep]

I like the cut of your jib.

[Rautherdir]

Reads!

Transcend is scum.

Vifam is null/scum.

LUV is null/slight scum.

Akarin is null.

Keyser is null.

Matt is null.

I(Rautherdir) am not reading myself.

JJD is null.

Grendel is null/slight town.

CoopSheep is null/town.

RC is town PR.


Night Kill Analysis
I don't know about everyone else, but I personally thought Alisae was scum when Night 1 started. The only conclusion I can draw is that scum were trying to find and kill other town PRs.

Matt's wagon. I never really understood how it happened, but after a lookover I came to the conclusion that its possible that he is scum, but I don't see it as likely.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.2 <==

With 11 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!

Execution by elephant was a common method of capital punishment in South and Southeast Asia, particularly in India, where Asian elephants were used to crush, dismember, or torture captives in public executions. The animals were trained and versatile, able to kill victims immediately or to torture them slowly over a prolonged period. Most commonly employed by royalty, the elephants were used to signify both the ruler's absolute power and his ability to control wild animals.

The sight of elephants executing captives both horrified and attracted the interest of European travelers, and was recorded in numerous contemporary journals and accounts of life in Asia. The practice was eventually suppressed by the European empires that colonised the region in the 18th and 19th centuries. While primarily confined to Asia, the practice was occasionally adopted by Western powers, such as Ancient Rome and Carthage, particularly to deal with mutinous soldiers.

[L-6]

Grendel -

[L-5]

Akarin - Vifam

[L-4]

Rautherdir - RadiantCowbells, Transcend

[L-6]

JarJarDrinks -

[L-6]

Lil Uzi Vert -

[L-3]

Transcend - Cooperative Sheep, Rautherdir, JarJarDrinks

[L-6]

Cooperative Sheep -

[L-6]

Keyser Söze -

[L-5]

Vifam - Akarin

[L-4]

mattblackguy - Keyser Söze, Lil Uzi Vert

[L-5]

RadiantCowbells - mattblackguy

Waiting for their DOOM

- Grendel

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-02-17 18:00:00)

[JarJarDrinks]

Anybody around?

[JarJarDrinks]

Ok, I feel the need to come clean. I mislead the town earlier.

Spoiler:

I'm not really allergic to peanuts. I just don't like them.

[Vifam]

What happened to Akarin

[Transcend]

I don't feel good

Prodge

[Akarin]

You said you had a scumread on me before the hammer, what about my play before then was scummy to you?

It was the way you sheeped onto the Grendel wagon for no reason, then commented that you didn't notice he was so close to a lynch after Gerry and RC commented on it without unvoting. But at that point in the day it was less of a read that Rautherdir for me.

[Akarin]

What happened to Akarin

It was Sunday and I was fighting a head cold. Weekday afternoons are my active time.

[Akarin]

I'm annoyed because I was frantically trying to catch up before you hammered and I was paying attention and trying to get reads. But I don't remember all of that now because I never had a chance to post it.

And if I were scum, why would I come in here now and just jump on some random wagon like you're saying I'm doing? Wouldn't I have had like 3 days to plan out some good way to enter the game and not immediately get suspected?

Your argument doesn't make any sense.

The second point is just straight bad, b/c to acknowledge that you would do "x", or "y" as scum rather then "z" means that you are self aware enough to do just that to subvert what you'd do as scum.

The only instance I'd buy that is if what a player did really _would_ hurt their chances to win as scum, or if somebody else came to that conclusion.

Posting earlier then you'd perceive scum!you doing is not that.

That's not at all what I said. I wasn't saying I posted earlier than I would have as scum, I'm saying that if my reasoning is so poorly thought out that it's going to immediately get a wagon on me, why wouldn't I have run that by my scumbuddies during the night instead of coming in with what Vifam is claiming is both poor, lazy reasoning and a plot to get her lynched.

"You'd have known that as town you would come in here and vote for Vifam in such a way that people would want to vote for you, so you did that as scum," isn't very good reasoning. Especially considering the only person I've played with before in this game is Alisae and they're dead.

[Akarin]

I don't really see the problem here. He decided his vote on you wasn't doing any good and wanted to be sure of his first impressions of both players. Seems reasonable considering the length and intensity of the back and forth between the two.

The problem is that the vote wasn't doing any good, but they just unvoted rather than voting anywhere. It wasn't doing

more

good being on no one, and I had done literally nothing at all to warrant any change. Committing to one stance or another would have been good, but fanning the flames with "this doesn't seem like town vs. town" but not committing to anything is pretty scummy.

Besides which, it really does look pretty town on town, and Vifam is both arguing that well it must have looked scum on town to a lot of people because Gerry got lynched, but at the same time, Vifam didn't suspect or want to lynch Gerry.