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[Kmd4390]

I don't think it's unreasonable to believe scum didn't consider who was on/off the wagon when they made their NK.

[mastina]

Titus was scum, KMD.
I'm not sure if the scum between games shared chats, but if they did, then she would have been QUITE aware of the VCA patterns and told her team to not narrow down the lynch pool if one of their own was a potential victim. But with Leonshade gone, if the rest of the wagon was town, they could fire away.

[Kmd4390]

I'm not assuming both scum teams were in communication with each other.

[mastina]

Given that the other thread was closed, and given that the other scumteam (ALL of the other scumteam) avoided commenting, I think it quite likely that they were in fact in communication. I mean, I suppose it's possible they weren't, and just knew each other.
Or they weren't, didn't know each other, but Leonshade informed them.

But being in communication makes sense to me.

Couldn't hurt to ask the mod, though.

Mod: did the scumteams between games have the ability to communicate with each other?

[mastina]

As of the bottom of page 23, my reads look something like this:
Kmd
Ms Columbo
Almost50
McMenno
Mathblade
malpascp.

[MathBlade]

Given that the other thread was closed, and given that the other scumteam (ALL of the other scumteam) avoided commenting, I think it quite likely that they were in fact in communication. I mean, I suppose it's possible they weren't, and just knew each other.
Or they weren't, didn't know each other, but Leonshade informed them.

But being in communication makes sense to me.

Couldn't hurt to ask the mod, though.

Mod: did the scumteams between games have the ability to communicate with each other?

If you get an answer I'd be grateful. I agree the scum team was likely in communication but couldn't figure out the right question to ask.

Which way is your list mastina?

Is it Town on Top or Town on bottom?

Town on Bottom makes a lot of sense.

[MathBlade]

Wanna throw out a name or two?
It would have to be nero, chara, myself, mcmenno, or ms columbo. leon isn't here and narna was the NK.

For the record: I think that with Leon unable to be lynched in this game thanks to the draft, that the wagon was all town, and thus the kill on Narna.

If there was a second scum on the lynch, why would they intentionally narrow down the pool of possible scum on there?
We know Nero's town. I'm hard-townreading KMD.
That'd leave Almost50/McMenno/Ms Columbo.

I'm also hating basically everything malpascp is giving content-wise, and McMenno's vote there doesn't look like bussing, so.

....Mastina...WTF is this? Mal's content has been golden especially because...reasons.

[MathBlade]

Ms. Columbo *
Pepchoninga* light_ganski ThinkBig
Kmd4390
Almost Chara
McMenno**
MathBlade Banana Mint *
Malpascp *

I borrowed that from the first post. FYI you've replaced into slot that disappeared 4 times that I'm scumreading and you've actively narrowed and eliminated a scum pool then say scum are there...Like Mastina...

VOTE: Mastina

WTF? You are usually better than this

[mastina]

....Mastina...WTF is this? Mal's content has been golden especially because...reasons.

Yeah, sorry, but whatever bullshit you're implying malpascp has access to, I don't give a damn at this point.

I think you're scum.
I think malpascp is scum.
If either is wrong, McMenno would be scum.

But malpascp's posting has been awful.
And none of your posting has been remotely town.

Efforts to convince me Kmd or Almost50 are scum will fail. (Almost50 probably actually belongs above MS Columbo.)

Your efforts will be absolutely wasted there.
You can convince me that you're not scum--unlikely, but you could.
You could maybe convince me one of McMenno/MS Columbo would be scum.
Sure as fuck aren't getting me to buy them both though.

[MathBlade]

1) Mal is town.
You'd lynch me before Mal that is how sure I am.

2) I already vigged and Almost50 gladiated me as soon as I suspected him.

This necessitates a 1v1.

Almost50 is clearly scum who gladiated to avoid my push. I then started fishing for partners.

You mislynch me then you and 50 go down.

At least I know I am right that pep's slot wasn't Town. Mastina doesn't misread me as Town. She only does as 3P and scum.

[mastina]

Yeah sorry, but that's just wrong on every possible level.

Mathblade/malpascp here is the scumteam, especially given Mathblade's refusal to out malpascp.

[MathBlade]

Excuse me. Yes I don't out anyone I suspect of being a PR.

You'd lynch me first which proves you scum then A50 g fucking g.

[mastina]

You're not the only one who can (fake) be(ing) smug.

[mastina]

Yep. That was my one shot. No regrets.
Pep Kmd top scumreads
AC Nero and Mal top townreads
Hopefully I get drafted or NK'd
Go babyfaces!

Question.
You listed two scumreads here.
When insisting there were two scum.
Yet you shot DodgeTheSaint.

How exactly did you know he was flipping town and you'd need two scumreads?

[mastina]

at the very least Pep/KMD aren't scum together I think

To be fair you could make the argument that we'd be scumbuddies because KMD's top townread has been my slot all game and Pepchoninga/myself both had KMD as our top townread, and between all of us we have similar reads working together well, which is all things scumbuddies

would

do.

But in this case, it's because we're town and have a natural ~synergy~ in play. I think I synchronize well to KMD. I liked his thoughts the whole game, I liked what he was thinking, and he's my top townread.

[MathBlade]

Yep. That was my one shot. No regrets.
Pep Kmd top scumreads
AC Nero and Mal top townreads
Hopefully I get drafted or NK'd
Go babyfaces!

Question.
You listed two scumreads here.
When insisting there were two scum.
Yet you shot DodgeTheSaint.

How exactly did you know he was flipping town and you'd need two scumreads?

1) I assumed he was flipping scum. That would mean two scum remaining.

[mastina]

1162 is a long post, but it's basically a summary of

exactly

my issues with Mathblade this game.
Like, exactly.
Dead on the money.

Almost50, I don't remember what your current reads are, but just to be explicit here:
I am town.
I am positive that KMD is town.
You are town.

That leaves two scum in Mathblade/malpascp/McMenno/MS Columbo.
I am pretty sure malpascp is scum.
I agree with the you of that post that Mathblade is scum.
If malpascp is in fact scum, McMenno probably wouldn't be scum given their interactions.

So if you have any doubt in your heart, I ask you to trust me.
I'm not quite caught up yet, but my vote's not changing off of one of these two:
VOTE: malpascp.

[MathBlade]

at the very least Pep/KMD aren't scum together I think

To be fair you could make the argument that we'd be scumbuddies because KMD's top townread has been my slot all game and Pepchoninga/myself both had KMD as our top townread, and between all of us we have similar reads working together well, which is all things scumbuddies

would

do.

But in this case, it's because we're town and have a natural ~synergy~ in play. I think I synchronize well to KMD. I liked his thoughts the whole game, I liked what he was thinking, and he's my top townread.

Could. Yes. But you are so clearly scum it is sickening. I could make cases on everyone. However I care about what is true.

[MathBlade]

1162 is a long post, but it's basically a summary of

exactly

my issues with Mathblade this game.
Like, exactly.
Dead on the money.

Almost50, I don't remember what your current reads are, but just to be explicit here:
I am town.
I am positive that KMD is town.
You are town.

That leaves two scum in Mathblade/malpascp/McMenno/MS Columbo.
I am pretty sure malpascp is scum.
I agree with the you of that post that Mathblade is scum.
If malpascp is in fact scum, McMenno probably wouldn't be scum given their interactions.

So if you have any doubt in your heart, I ask you to trust me.
I'm not quite caught up yet, but my vote's not changing off of one of these two:
VOTE: malpascp.

Hahahahaha. Good luck with that Mastina.

There is a .00000000001 chance Mal is flipping scum unless Mal fake crumbed.

Lynch me first. But oh wait. You want Mal to "out himself".

I would rather you and A50 have to kill Mal so if you insist on between me and Mal you lynch me then my scumteam is proven.

Go on.

Vote me.

[mastina]

Is Kmd the third scum and scum set up two wagons to just wait on a townie to vote?

Yes, KMD, Almost50, and I all share an alignment and a common interest. We are all trying to lynch (more or less) the same group of players, too.

It's called the townbloc.

[mastina]

I think at this point everyone should be stating who they intend to vote? Even though I'm pretty damn sure this isn't LyLo.

My vote will not leave you/Mathblade.
Preferably you.

[mastina]

Also, Scum had a Role Cop (Titus) starting in SD, while our flipped Scumster; Leon was a BODYGUARD!! (I fail to see what good a BG is for Scum anyway, and it add more to my confusion that all Town Vig abilities are DAY Vigs).

Bodyguarding acts as a safeclaim.
Similar to how a vig would, actually.

[MathBlade]

Is Kmd the third scum and scum set up two wagons to just wait on a townie to vote?

Yes, KMD, Almost50, and I all share an alignment and a common interest. We are all trying to lynch (more or less) the same group of players, too.

It's called the townbloc.

Your townbloc has scum in it.

Lynch me to prove it.

Because scum is you and A50.

[mastina]

Remember when he thought mcmenno's early use of his ability was funny and it rubbed me the wrong way? My issue was that it sounded like scum going "lol town is wasting abilities". Well now we know Leon was scum. So mcmenno being town here makes sense.
He was also the one to initially point out that columbo's questions sounded like newb town. In the same sentence, he called the same questions awkward. I could see this being scum looking for a reason to justify a town read on a scum buddy. Leon's posts directed at columbo, or about columbo, also feel pretty soft throughout the ISO.
Just a few thoughts.

This is a fair point...
...But I feel like malpascp is scum regardless of Columbo/Mathblade, so.

[MathBlade]

Remember when he thought mcmenno's early use of his ability was funny and it rubbed me the wrong way? My issue was that it sounded like scum going "lol town is wasting abilities". Well now we know Leon was scum. So mcmenno being town here makes sense.
He was also the one to initially point out that columbo's questions sounded like newb town. In the same sentence, he called the same questions awkward. I could see this being scum looking for a reason to justify a town read on a scum buddy. Leon's posts directed at columbo, or about columbo, also feel pretty soft throughout the ISO.
Just a few thoughts.

This is a fair point...
...But I feel like malpascp is scum regardless of Columbo/Mathblade, so.

Mastina stawp it.

You are wrong.

Lynch me. Prove your wrongness so you re-evaluate.

Oh wait. You don't want to.