Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[RagingSpammers]

Hi RC
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

HI ALI
VOTE: Anna

[RagingSpammers]

forgot to sign, that avi is hilarious
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

HI CLOUDIE!
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

We do it's just that we're dorks that love each other.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Also eager I liked your previous avi better ;~;
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I just liked it more ;~;
And I'll try but I dunno about Cloudie.
Also hi Gin.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

He does that pretty much every gamestart for reactions like these
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

VOTE: RagingSpammers

Lots of dragons in Spyro but I don't remember any hydras.

Theres 2 more hydras in play and 2 posted so far, so why me (us)

VOTE: greylion
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

I couldn't find it so because spammer has obviously seen RC do this before, I ask for where that was.

Theres way more info about elsa's alignement to be found by the content they produced than stupid rvs meta
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

I couldn't find it so because spammer has obviously seen RC do this before, I ask for where that was.

Theres way more info about elsa's alignement to be found by the content they produced than stupid rvs meta
-CK

why don't you give the meta?

#Elsa

Yea i sidesteped cause i think its because its been on ongoing stuff, he can check rc's game himself

[RagingSpammers]

^ 41 was CK

@gin talking to someone directly can give you good reads too, thats what i was saying by more info and content than a read on meta
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

Theres also the elephan in the room that Rc is a good player and believing anyone can have a correct read on his alignement by the first post in rvs is just not happening
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

The fuck do you think I'm even doing CK? I just spent the last 20 minutes TALKING to Elsa

Exactly, that would give you better reads than his first post
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

The fuck do you think I'm even doing CK? I just spent the last 20 minutes TALKING to Elsa

Exactly, that would give you better reads than his first post
-CK

ill rephrase : analyse what has been said over the first post, the arguements and anna's rxn is much more important than the meta post or meta read itself
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

Well don't say I'm doing stupid shit when I'm doing exactly what you tell me I should be doing instead. It's redundant.

lol not really, at the end of your lil discussion you re-ask about the meta thingy which is clearly irrelevant
-ck

[RagingSpammers]

I couldn't find it so because spammer has obviously seen RC do this before, I ask for where that was.

Theres way more info about elsa's alignement to be found by the content they produced than stupid rvs meta
-CK

Basically I caught a wiff of white knighting in this post where he says the reason I'm voting Elsa is "stupid rvs meta."

It's the fact that he used the word "stupid."

Using Ad hom to discredit my accusations on another player.

Well, calling someone cheeky scum for calling their hydra heads scum is a stupid rvs read
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

white knighting is a strange choice of words as there is nothing against us for us to be white knighted from.

regardless it didn't feel good ...

VOTE: RagingSpammers

#Elsa

Lol, im saying that no one can believe they can have a serious read on rc by their first post and then suddenly im buddying
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

No point in not saying what I see, I see it as whiteknighting

To accuse someone of white knighting you almost have to make it seem like you know that E&A Is town...
No?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

But...
To say someone is whiteknighting...
You have to know that the person that's being whiteknighted is town...
Right?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Oooooooooh okay
So why is it scummy here?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

FA Tawlk to me plz.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Rc starts a lot of games accusing someone to be their scum partner to find a scum like you - attacking back

Also FA, why does this really feel like you're pushing something as fact moreso then just a read.
-Ali

pedit: I think the point that Cloudie was trying to get across was that Leon ignored your hydra but targeted ours.
That's something you're gonna have to talk to Cloudie about tho.

pedit2: I see you Gin.

Pedit3: I is Alisae FA and is it really stalking? I just like playing with you ;~;

[RagingSpammers]

And Gin you aren't considering the possibility of being wrong.
IE you're being Arrogant right now
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8550184
TierShift in this game jumps on RadiantPhantom for one post and leads town to mislynch it. Elbrin replaces in to seal the mislynch on his slot.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

That's for Gin btw.

[RagingSpammers]

Rc starts a lot of games accusing someone to be their scum partner to find a scum like you - attacking back

Also FA, why does this really feel like you're pushing something as fact moreso then just a read.
-Ali

pedit: I think the point that Cloudie was trying to get across was that Leon ignored your hydra but targeted ours.
That's something you're gonna have to talk to Cloudie about tho.

pedit2: I see you Gin.

Pedit3: I is Alisae FA and is it really stalking? I just like playing with you ;~;

pushing facts is the best way to get reads

Haven't you learned that from me yet? >.>

and that wasn't me pushing a fact it was just me trying to see if he has double standards from asking me about that meta or not.

#Elsa

OOOOH okay.
And what did you get out of your whole ordeal with Gin?
-Ali

pedit: It is definitely not RC.

[RagingSpammers]

And Gin you aren't considering the possibility of being wrong.
IE you're being Arrogant right now
-Ali

Who am I am voting for? OH WAIT NO ONE.

The pure fact that I unvoted shows myself backing off what I think is no longer a valid accusation.

It's like sometimes I can sit back and realize and admit I might be wrong about something

Okay then.
-Ali

pedit: Good to know.

[RagingSpammers]

I personally think you're both town.
You seem to be doing town things and Gin backing off there looks townish.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

You seem to be doing town things

What "things" struck you as town?

Oh ya know.
The things where you ask questions.
The things where FA feels paranoid about stuff.
The things I'm getting from the interactions.
That stuff.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Sure but how is pointing out what they're doing vague?

[RagingSpammers]

18 looks like an RCish response
31 looks like scumhunting
33 looks like scumhunting
48 is paranoia coming from town. As in I don't see why scum would be paranoid here.
56 is paranoia coming from town. As in I don't see why scum would be paranoid here.
59 is attempting to clear up a misunderstanding
72 looks like scumhunting
74 looks like scumhunting
94 is a good post.

Gin come on man, I thought you knew this kind of stuff.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Because it looked like you were trying to solve the game in your own little special way.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

As in, I agree with it.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

You're right I do!
Maybe it's because it's what it is.
And Tone.

and ffs Gin, do I really have to define what scumhunting is for you?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

tbh it really felt like you were trying to develop your read based off of mine.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

But Gin, one thing Grey taught me is that when you ask stupid questions you get stupid answers!
And Grey-Senpai is almost never wrong!
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Now that I got that point across.
31 is pointing out your arrogance
33 is also pointing out your arrogance
72 is trying to understand how Gin thinks
and 74 is trying to figure out why we did something

You're making me draw things out for you Gin and it annoys me because you should be able to reach these conclusions yourself.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

No, I'm annoyed because so far you have shown
A. Arrogant play with your push on E&A
B. Asking people to explain obvious things.
C. You seem really difficult to work with because of your arrogance.

I can ask you why all day, does it get me anywhere?
No, not really.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Hey! I explained my reads on my post!
Do you still not like it?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Hold on.
Let me explain to you what scumhunting is.
So, scumhunting is done by determining who is oppertunistic towards lynches, who slips information they shouldn't have, and who's trying to plant paranoia in the town. These things are done by extensive questioning! Which is exactly what you're doing! So good job!
Questioning is done so that you try to figure out if someone's thoughts are genuine. Like yours! So good job!
Now maybe I should let Cloudie talk with you because you annoy me.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Spoiler: answer to magna

@Gin

– Please explain something for me … why did you open with an RVS vote at 13 and then proceed to “move out of RVS” with your vote on the hydra? RC posted his stupid “teehee, look at me I’m so clever” partner vote literally a minute after the game opened. You can’t tell me you missed it the first time around and if the intention was to get us out of RVS as quick as possible why post a pointless RVS vote?

Also blatant OMGUS but that's self explanatory to anyone reading this.

Which is not alignment indicative for RC. He does it regardless of Town or Scum.

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He does that pretty much every gamestart for reactions like these
-CK

And he does it as scum.

And as town, my point was that it was NAI not towny

Theres 2 more hydras in play and 2 posted so far, so why me (us)

VOTE: greylion
-CK

Are you seriously asking for justification for an RVS vote?

his logic to vote me bogus, rvs or not

Theres way more info about elsa's alignement to be found by the content they produced than stupid rvs meta
-CK

Nope. Not a lick of anything they have posted so far is in any way alignment indicative. It is completely Null. Nothing there that isn’t trivially faked as scum.

i dont care about your opinion on what is ai or not, i can do that myself

Theres also the elephan in the room that Rc is a good player and believing anyone can have a correct read on his alignement by the first post in rvs is just not happening
-CK

Um, whut? You just said that you could discern Elsa’s alignment. Are you trying to say Gin can’t get a read on RC early but you can read Frozen early? Not buying it.

VOTE: Raging Spammers

I did rephrase that post, i meant to say that trying too hard to read into one-liner rvs post is not how you can read someone, i didnt say i could discern elsa alignement, i said the content she produced was much more telling of her alignement than the single post RC did, reread

Posts like 116 read very much like scum who can’t easily justify their position and has to resort to going on the attack.



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Rc starts a lot of games accusing someone to be their scum partner to find a scum like you - attacking back

pedit : Are you saying RC accusing their hydra partner as a joke and game starting with selfvote in RVS is scummy That much that you want Meta to reconsider?

Let’s play spot the contradiction. Ten points to whoever buzzes in first.

>.>

<.<

I am a queen ...

#Elsa

Elsa started the movie as a Princess since her partners were (ever so briefly) alive.

Also – Disney Princesses does not apply only to Princesses but is the Disney nomenclature for all female leads.

If you want to be nitpicky at least be correct …

Kindda famous in MS

-CK

[RagingSpammers]

Also not using the hood until I can treat it like a masonry

Fully read up, don't see myself moving my vote today, Gin's vote was garbage and I'd like to not have to deal with any neighbour wifom down the line

Ok, going to have to read up on TTH Neighbor history to get a better handle on this situation.

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his logic to vote me bogus, rvs or not

Can we get more votes here please? Re-read 30 and then look at this response.

I did rephrase that post, i meant to say that trying too hard to read into one-liner rvs post is not how you can read someone, i didnt say i could discern elsa alignement, i said the content she produced was much more telling of her alignement than the single post RC did, reread

And we also get “split the hairs” exact word lawyering bullshit. In 37 you said there was “more information about Elsa’s alignment to be found in the content than stupid rvs meta”. And then at 101 you basically say “

all these posts are Town

” (although not directly). Are you seriously saying you had not intention of calling the Frozen Twin hydra Town with those posts?

That was my other head but yea, so far we think elsa is prob town
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

VOTE: ragingspamers

Talk to me?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I'll be able to explain it more when I can not phone post but there is just something that feels off about the slot as a whole and the way Alisae has been treating me makes me uncomfortable. Alisae is very emotional but a happy go lucky bouncy type of person and it just feels like her posting tone didn't represent the Alisae I've come to familiarize myself with(context in that every game so far she has apparently been town).

OMGAWD
It's like I'm always super indepth with my reads!
And it's like I'm always you never seen what I look like when I get annoyed with people -_-
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

We like using skype

Stop right there.
Skype is a terrible program for a few reasons:
A. Uses up a lot of memory
B. Very poor security. A lot of people get hacked via skype because it's very easy to get someone's IP and other things when you're just in a call with someone.

[RagingSpammers]

Also discord is better then skype
-Ali posting.

[RagingSpammers]

My biggest weakness as town is I'm buddied really fucking easy. On mobile but go to my view topics and Micro Vanillish. I was IC and Pine led me to a loss so hard.

So with that being established, I'd like it if you actually tell me what you agree with or why you are okay with just going with whatever I said. I'm not accusing you of buddying I just get paranoid about these things.

Well, I don't agree with the town lean on else. I posted that before I saw it. I don't want to go along with whatever you say. And that's certainly not my plan. Part of what I meant stemmed from Alisae being super off and basically being... Difficult when to me you're pretty clearly trying to figure shit out. And that was my reason for the vote there. I didn't think it was too difficult for her to come up with examples of rc doing what she said he does all the time, but she still refused to and acted like your posts and questions are out of line when they certainly were not. She took everything you said and put her own little unnecessary spin in it, and I hated that. Like your wanting specifics, and she jumps to wanting to teach you what scumhunting is... Like wtf is up with that?

Back to the question, is a general reaction of when I'm reading through, I'm reading other players like "wtf?" and I'm reading you like "yeah def" if that makes sense.

Here we go! Something I can address!
At the moment Gin was annoying me cuz it really seemed to me that I was drawing things out for him that just seemed obvious to me. Like to me it really seemed like they were trying to create their own read just based off of my reasoning for the read.
Basicly I just got really annoyed by Gin because he seemed very arrogant and I didn't want to work with that.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Fully read up, don't see myself moving my vote today, Gin's vote was garbage and I'd like to not have to deal with any neighbour wifom down the line

So how was it garbage? I mean we literally hashed out all the details about it. I don't know what's not to get

Not_Mafia: "Your first vote and the first serious vote in the game was garbage for page 1, it's ground for a lynch."

Read that, read your vote, read this again, and then unvote.

I'll be perfectly happy with a vote on me that actually makes sense but yours is a shoddy vote park so you don't have to actually explain shit

It's nonsense scum jump on

How so? Explain why only scum would do it and you would never think a townie would ever do it.

I didn't say never, I just think you're scum

I like this interaction. Makes me somewhat like Gin more and like NM less.

NM explain to me why Gin is scum, because I'm clearly not seeing it.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

VOTE: Spine

Townreading Gin

Thats quite a jump mister!
What's the sudden change from "I'm not going to change my vote" to "he's town now."
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I'm surprised none have misidentified me as scum yet. Similarly, I am surprised no scum have faked a scum read on me yet.

I have many other thoughts and opinions, but nothing worth sharing yet.

-Snake

What makes you think someone would think you're scum? What makes you think scum would fake a scumread on you?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I'm surprised none have misidentified me as scum yet. Similarly, I am surprised no scum have faked a scum read on me yet.

I have many other thoughts and opinions, but nothing worth sharing yet.

-Snake

You get

mislynched

a lot D1 or something?

#Elsa

No. But usually at least get an RVS vote or someone claiming I'm scum. Neither happened. Surprising. Felt left out.

How do you know it'd be a mislynch?

As much as I want to know the answer to this question as well, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they were talking about this game moreso if you got mislynched in general.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Oh wait yeah people already pointed out that's not what E&A said, nvm.

[RagingSpammers]

VOTE: Snake

Snakey talk to me about this.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Wow this is an easy game.

VOTE: Sircakez

That's scum.

Explain your votes -_-
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I don't get my ten points, do I.

Nope sorry. Frozen already beat you to it. Better luck next time.

What do you think of Raging Spammers?

44 doesn't read like whiteknighting, it reads like THE FEAR. I don't know necessarily what Gin wanted from them in the back-and-forth but 110 feels like just a little bit of condescending Jedi hand-waving "you want to stop having this conversation" out-of-game reference to appeal to some shared experience in the hopes that Gin would ease up.

And right now I feel you're kinda towny so I could go along with this.

VOTE: Raging Spammers

Wanna do the talky things?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I'ma go quickly count the votes that are on us.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Oh I thought there were more on us.
Right now it's just 3 or something.
A VC would sorta help

@MOD VC?

;~;
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

NM why?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

We like using skype

Stop right there.
Skype is a terrible program for a few reasons:
A. Uses up a lot of memory
B. Very poor security. A lot of people get hacked via skype because it's very easy to get someone's IP and other things when you're just in a call with someone.

A) As long as you don't thrash your hard drive you're good
B) I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to live chat with someone online if you didn't have their IP. If this is a genuine concern you should probably look into using a VPN

B...That's not how that works...Atleast I don't think so but still it's not a safe program...
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Snakey do you think you are the most lynchbaity slot alive?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Snakey that post in general came off as sorta LAMIST to me so that's sorta why I was questioning it.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Snakey do you think you are the most lynchbaity slot alive?
-Ali

I believe I am often seen falsely as lynch-bait, yes. This has always been my belief on the way people see me, which can easily be shown by a quick meta-dive of me. Where are you going with these questions? I feel like they are going nowhere, and I don't want to be rude, but, like I said earlier I don't want this thread flooded more than it already is (see posts 236-250) and I will begin to ignore your questions (at least for a time, until I have more substance to post besides just an answer to your question).

You arent lynchbait, you are relatively easy to read as town imo, last game i just had a hard time for some of your lines that were completly out of place
-CK

[RagingSpammers]

Spammers's vote on me pinged me, not because of the OMGUS but because of the reason for the vote. It seems fake to scumread a pure RVS and go "why me". There was also the white knighting of your slot, that was touched upon earlier; especially the inconsistency between scumreading me for an RVS, while claiming that you can't read someone off a one-liner RVS post (215).

fosing omgus on rvs is ridiculous, i voted you but thats it its not like i eventually scumread for that or pushed you, not sure where your comming from thingking -> overeaction. Its just that you actually outed seemingly logic with your rvs vote so i was curious about why our slot over elsa's. Also, the ''why me'' is an inside epicmafia joke, its considered a hard scumtell there so i just post it to get reactions like the one you just did .
The ''whiteknighting" is silly too, i said that trying hard to read someone based of their first signature cheeky line is just not happening and is inded stupid rvs meta

-CK

[RagingSpammers]

Lol Gin my methods are strange, and you may not like them, but they work and you know this.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

I don't ever recall giving you advice.
And as for my reads, you were apart of this game, weren't you?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69849
You know I play like lynchbait.
You also know I can find tell the difference between scum pushing me and town pushing me.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

oh yeah btw I like Flubber
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Well I just provided that to say that my methods DO work.
What makes you think I'm trying to find a way to make up an excuse for bad play? Why can't I just be reminding you of how I play?
Like that post of yours really makes me think "Aw man, is Gin trying to find an excuse to keep on trying to push as a mislynch?"
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Like you have to consider that Meta is a decent thing to base a read on because it's hard to manipulate someone's approach to the game. No?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Massive talk to me?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Gin plz I'm dieing.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

@eager what do you think is town about ragingspam?

I felt the whole page 1 thing was rather townie while I witnessed it happening real-time.

Alisae and CK I have played with both of them as town and don't see or feel any noticeable difference here.

Hey Laaaaaaaane, why did you drop the interaction here?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Scumreads are RS and Snake, in that order.

So Snakey is scummy for defending someone you think is scum?
Why can't Snakey just be defending someone who they think is town?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Because according to your reads list I'm the scummiest person here

also [wifom]If i were scum it would've been much easier for me to ignore/disengage or even make up some "notes" rather than say I didn't have any which is obviously scummy when I said I did. But I'm not scum so I just tell the truth about what happened and see if I can form any reads around that convo.[/wifom]

Yuck.

Scumreads are RS and Snake, in that order.

Nice superficial reads.

How are they superficial?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Scum will take reads you have wrong and know which direction to push duh

Scum that you have on town will try to pocket you duh

Come on dude seriously you don't know how early reads lists help scum? How many games have you played in?

^Rhetorical questions don't worry you don't have to answer to them

&& you will learn that I don't like answering to people

Why you guys are so worried about me and not caring about fuckers like Not_Mafia not doing shit is beyond me.

VOTE: eagerSnake

Nice deflection.

P-edit: Nice try, but I've explained my reads in my ISO.

Okay, someone has to really teach me what is scummy about deflection, because I do it all the time and I think of it as trying to push your own scumread while being under pressure.
-Ali

pedit: Fine, I assumed on that one, I thought the read was based on associating us.
As for snakey, I think his overall play so far is townish so I think to me it just comes off as town defending their townread.

[RagingSpammers]

So Snakey is scummy for defending someone you think is scum?
Why can't Snakey just be defending someone who they think is town?
-Ali

Ali what is Ck's top scumread atm

He's driving the votes and honestly, if he would appear then maybe he could tell you. Cuz he is somewhere and I don't know where that somewhere is.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Hey guyz, you wanna know something cool?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Too bad Gin you're getting told it anyway.
eager is lyyyyyyyyynch baaaaaaaaaaaaait.
Lynch
Bait
L
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C
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B
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-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Idunno snakey, let's ask!

@MOD do The Forces of Evil have daytalk?

[RagingSpammers]

I'm starting to feel like lynching lynch bait when they call themselves lynchbait so they have an incentive to stop being lynchbait.

Stop purposefully playing like shit and then saying you're lynchbait.

How do you know it's purposeful?
Either way being willing to lynch lynch bait just because they want to play like lynch bait is baaaaaaaaaad.
You're scummy for attacking their playstyle.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

If you keep dying D1 because you're shit, you soon learn to get your act together.

lol.
Funny.
Gin, do I seriously have to tell you what's wrong with this?

-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Oh wait I thought you were throwing shade at me.
nvm
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Seriously Gin.
Pretty sure he softed vig by now
You need me to point out the soft?
Really Gin? Cause it was obvious
Obvious as all fucking hell.

Come on Gin.
Can't you see that stuff?

VOTE: Snakey
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Seriously Gin.
Pretty sure he softed vig by now
You need me to point out the soft?
Really Gin? Cause it was obvious
Obvious as all fucking hell.

Come on Gin.
Can't you see that stuff?

VOTE: Snakey
-Ali

Why did you give me a bunch of shit for wanting to lynch snake and then once he claims a town power role you vote him?

I thought you got what I was trying to convey, no?

[RagingSpammers]

Yeah Gin is town.
UNVOTE:
I was trying to see if he payed attention to what I was trying to do and if he was scum I think he would have latched onto Snakey at that point.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

S

eriously Gin.

P

retty sure he softed vig by now

Y

ou need me to point out the soft?

R

eally Gin? Cause it was obvious

O

bvious as all fucking hell.

C

ome on Gin.

C

an't you see that stuff?

VOTE: Snakey
-Ali

Look at the bolded and tell me what you think it was trying to convey.
A Spyro CC.
But I was faking a CC to see who would jump on it and who's paying attention to detail who isn't.
Gin clearly didn't see what I was trying to do.
Therefore I think he's town.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

Snake shoot Massive or NotMafia tonight please

- Vifam

Didn't you just dayvig him?
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

To catch oppertunistic scum.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

why the fuck would anyone notice that shit?

whats the fucking meaning of that test? what were you testing exactly?

why the fuck would not noticing it mean town?

are you mocking my sanity in this game?

#Elsa

A. Why wouldn't scum pay attention to detail?
B. I wanted to see who was paying attention to detail.
C. Town are more likely to notice detail less then scum, but you could also consider experience.
D. Not really.
-Ali

[RagingSpammers]

inb4 she says I'm scum attacking her playstyle.

Fuck me.

Why do you play with me again?
and dw you're obvtowny.

Also when Cloudie comes back, I can't wait for him to find out how useful I've been.
-Ali

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RS is town even though their logic as far as that read goes is flawed and that play was bad

So basicly you think I'm bad town?
-Ali

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Dam so cold.
Knew Gin hates me.
-Ali

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Vifam what's your read on me.
-Ali

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Is that L-1 or something?
Okay, this is where I claim for real, right?
D2 Doublevoter.
-Ali

pedit: aww thanks.
Too bad I'm getting PL'd now.
Sorry Snakey ;~;

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Yes I am!
-Ali

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Hydra slipping to find the password real quick cuz I lost it on my stickynote and by lost I mean accidentally deleted it.
Bentley, Day 2 Double Voter

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why you didn't claim it with your role claim?

tbh I forgot what character I was.

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btw I'm at l-1
-Ali

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eager I thought you wanted to vig NM.
What changed?
-Ali

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Well it's coming from the guy who outed someone who they thought was not a PR but actually was
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69588
And self-hammered as town.
-Ali

rip

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Well it's coming from the guy who outed someone who they thought was not a PR but actually was
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69588
And self-hammered as town.
-Ali

rip

who is this @ to?

#Elsa

I thought Leon was asking me but I musta misread it. Mybad ;~;

Also if it weren't for the claim I think Snakey would be scum trying to whiteknight me.
-Ali

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Aella anything you want to talk to me about?
-Ali

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VOTE: Eagersnake

Fuck you. get pled

Stop it please

QFT
-Ali

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pro-hawks ISO sucks

While I do agree with you there, I think votes on him right now would be low effort.
He hasn't done anything that's specifcily scummy to me.
-Ali

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I'ma talk to Cloudie, but I think right now we might put our vote on Massive or Aella.
Massive because that vote on us earlier was just blatant sheeping and just seemed bad. I still want to talk to them to see if they have their own reasons for scumreading us.
As for Aella, just seems like he's trying to stay under the radar and not get any attention to himself.

Also I don't understand why people were scumreading Cakez earlier?
-Ali

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Also until I talk to Cloudie about what he wants to do.
VOTE: Aella
Like I really feel like they're more concerned about us blending in.
-Ali

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Gin i like that post, I wanna see what the response is (or lack of reponse) before I comment on it.
mkay?
-Ali

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good find on ProHawk, I hadn't been paying attention to him. He should say what the point of all of those questions were.

Partnerinteraction

And you're answering the question for him because?
-Ali

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Gin good find on ProHawk, I hadn't been paying attention to him. He should say what the point of all of those questions were.

Gin I think that was a good find. People like that usually get overlooked easily, as more talkative lynchbaity people get hammered down on, and they are quite often scum. It's actually very awkward posting when I look at it.

I really don't feel like it actually means anything but it's so fucking weird how these two posts are so damn similar.

Then why are you pointing it out if you feel like it doesn't mean anything?
-Ali

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I'm feeling like everyone is rehasing me now.
I was the one who said that I wanted to see what his response was first!
GIMMIE CREDIT PLZ
-Ali

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Gin i like that post, I wanna see what the response is (or lack of reponse) before I comment on it.
mkay?
-Ali

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lol, what kind of analysis could you do on me? I haven't even hardly been playing.

The case is at 580 and I wanna see your response to it.
-Ali

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Well one thing you're not supposed to do is get super denfensive and hide behind the same excuse.
VOTE: ProHawk
-Ali

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I moreso wanted you have come in doing what you were going to do (reading the thread and do catchup thingys) and then push a scumread.

Your analysis that catch-up posting is wrong. If you dont freaking have time to read the game because of people who have more time to play than others, what the hell are you supposed to do?

This line comes off as very defensive to me.
If it's wrong, prove how it's wrong instead if just saying it is. Because right now it's like you're discreditting Gin's hard work.
-Ali

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Gin snipped me dammit ;~;
-Ali

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I'm more than happy to interact.

So am I!
But people still think I'm scum and they won't interact with us.
See what a tragic, tragic world we live in.
But I want you to push someone before I unvote you.
Is that okay?
-Ali

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AKA do town things instead of just making excuses.
-Ali

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which will hopefully be Mastina

btw this is just myself being selfish as my favorite person on this site is Mastina :p

Fuckin fan boy
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
jk you're just hoping a friend joins
hehe
-Ali

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Scum posting
Only holding off from voting that because of the replaceout

Is it just me, or do I think this is a shitty reason for not voting them.
-Ali

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VOTE: massive

Next?

Ya got my vote.
Cuz I want the dude to TALK to me instead of just sheeping onto my wagon really early.
But I'm sure we're gonna talk when he comes back.
VOTE: Massive
-Ali

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Let's be real tho, ProHawk replacing out when he did is ew.
"Oh know, pressure is on me, I can't handle it, time to REPLACE OUT"
-Ali

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Yeah, it tends to do that when I'm not feeling frustrated with you and want to work with you
-Ali

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Preparing for a test that he has tomorrow
-Ali

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If he doesn't start doing things by Monday or Tuesday I might get concerned too tbh.
Cloudie always posts a lot no matter of alignment last time I checked.
Also Hydraing is new to him so the way he sees it, switching out of accounts is a draaaaag.
-Ali

pedit: I agree!

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I have a huge ass exam tomorow i had a little time so i played there, i have been posting elsewhere because im procrastinigint hard. I havent post in this game yet because when i went back from work yday there was like 15 new pages and i wasnt going to read that just to procrastinate

-CK

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So wait.
I'm scum because I'm not shitposting and praticing good habbits?
But then people complain when I do shitpost?
People nowadays
-Ali

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Also

@MOD do The Forces of Evil have daytalk?

-Ali

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Oh okay...
-Ali

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I derped on that.
my bad.
silly ol me thought "but when the replacement replaces in, they feel pressure..." or something along those lines.
hehe I'm so silly...
-Ali

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OMGAWD GIN
AM I SCUM OR NOT?
YOU'RE LIKE "MAYBE HE IS SCUM, MAYBE HE ISN'T" AND IT'S ANNOYING ME!
GUN TO YOUR HEAD.
-ALI

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Like seriously, I really feel like you've been posturing about my slot this whole game.
-Ali

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Gin, my problem is that you've been posturing my slot this whole game and its annoying me.
Like holy shit maybe you are scum.
-Ali

pedit: I recongize that, but I also have to be indentifying who is scum or not on my wagon.

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Like your paranoia on my slot is annoying me.
It comes off as scum that's self-conscious as to if they want to get on my wagon or not.
-Ali

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Mhmm, and players like Titus run off of OMGUS. I mean, OMGUS IS what you are refering to, no?
and newb!town can also run off of OMGUS, no?
What makes my OMGUS specificly scummy?
-Ali

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Are you saying town can't use it as a threat as well?
Why is that scummy Gin.
-Ali

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I'm not getting anywhere with you on this.
First you go from Ali is scummy to "Maybe Ali would be a bit more careful when he rolls scum." to "Yep, that deserves a vote again."
Like, I really feel like you're tiptoeing around my slot.

But we're not getting anywhere with this.
Talk to me about people, specificly Massive.
-Ali

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You talking about earlier that RS isn't doing well under pressure?

Large Normal 200.
When I was first ran up, how well do you remember me handling that pressure?
Hint: Not well at all.
-Ali

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That's a new one.
In that case go ahead and talk to me about people. Here, I'll give you something to work with.

{Snakey, Lane}
{Leon, E&A}
{Flubber}
{MoI, Cakez, NM}
{ProHawk, Massive}
{Gin, Aella}

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8643788

You post different than you do here.

Oh yeah, I sure did change a lot from that game compared to my recently finished Large Normal 200.
I SUUUUUUUUUUURE DID Gin.
-Ali

pedit: Gin I just think you're scum for tiptoeing and dancing around our slot.

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Gin ain't scum I think

Part of me agrees, part of me disagrees. I can't decide which part to listen too. Like, everything else he's down is towny besides regarding my slot. It's freaking me out.

You know how easy you are to vote right?

No one would give me shit for lynching you. D1 could have ended a long freaking time ago and no one would have thought any different.

You're not a slot I would have to tip toe or dance around in what I'd want to lynch on or not. You'd either be pocketed or dead.

A threat...And you were just scumreading me for threatening you...
Okay then...

I'm not done with Alisae yet

Then stop throwing stones at me and watching me cower, because I feel like this is all your questions are aimed at doing.
-Ali

pedit: I agree, everything else you've done is towny. I think right now I'm just freaking out over the paranoia you're casting on my slot.

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Fine...
I'll go through your ISO and stick with a read later.
You said you weren't done with me?
-Ali

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Note to self: Gin tried to use meta against me to make me look worse when he said earlier that meta is only applied when there is a scumgame to compare it too.

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You said you weren't done with me?

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Alrighty, let's talk about Massive.
What are your thoughts on them? Because when they got on my wagon, to me it just seemed like they were sheeping someone else's read on me.
-Ali

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Hmm...so basicly you think they aren't reading so they sheeped onto the biggest wagon. Am I getting this right?
Also Gin why are people finding Cakez scummy, because I don't understand that read myself.

pedit: Yes, eager I agree, we should definitely poke Massive a bit.

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Also Gin talk to me about Aella.
Like right now they come across someone who just doesn't really want to get attention to themselves, and someone who just wants to stand still on the sidelines and watch as things play out.
-Ali

pedit: Is that all? Hold on, let me go ISO them real quick.
-Ali

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Did anyone grill Cakez about his openning post btw?
-Ali

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Oh yeah, talk to me about NM.
Are ywall using your neighborhood? Cuz I'm not seeing as much interactions from ya two?
-Ali

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Ah, just wondering what was the update on that.
-Ali

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Also if you're still going by the reads you posted idunno how long ago, explain to me your read on Magna, or is that in your ISO as well?
-Ali

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but why are you scumreading them again or is that in your ISO?
-Ali

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Like, right now I'm looking and I genuinely can't find it.
-Ali

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Ooooooooooh okay...
I thought there was more to it then that, but otherwise thankie!
We'll talk when there's more to talk about
-Ali

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I'll catch up later today, I also need to re-read RS's ISO with an open mind.

You want to know what would really make this seem genuine?
An unvote.
You want to know why?
Becuase if it was genuine, you would have unvoted so that you could read my ISO with an open mind without having to worried about me getting hammered, because I'm currently at L-2. And then once having re-read, put your vote back on if you so desired.
VOTE: Leonshade
-Ali

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We're poking a lion and trying to get it to talk.
Is that a bad thing massive?
-Ali

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finished my exam, 15 new pages cool stuff
-CK

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you know whats funnier than 15 pages overnight ? Me no being able to put time in this game tonight cause im seeing a grill
-ck

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yep

-ck

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shes there lol bye
-ck

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hey another 10 pages
-ck

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I will be the main head for a while, we discussed with my other head about her reads. For all purpose and intent tho, ill only skim the last 30 pages

-CK

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FTR if i said lion i meant leonshade because he changed his avi
-CK

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To be fair, i also think its a really bad reason to townread someone, i cant say for ali but if you try to read me from my tone you will fail but with extensive meta knowledge

Also hi magna, can you give me a condensed of your reads please

-CK

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15 pages in 12hrs
-CK

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I thought infinity/gin were buddies yday, also ftr i am not going to read too much into the recent content, i dont have the time irl to keep up with this
-CK

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prodge
-CK

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I dont want to read everything, you guys can figure it out but i plan on being active d2
-CK

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Cloudie isn't doing things.
I'm gonna do things.
I'ma go read things.
-Ali

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Anyone wanna talk to me about things?
-Ali

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VOTE: Gin
-Ali

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Gin flipping town means I want Inf's head on a platter.
Is this how this works?
-Ali

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Also a part of me regrets hydraing with Cloudie cuz I told Cloudie that I couldn't handle things right now (not game related) and told him to take over and he didn't do that and now I'm sad.
-Ali

Gin and everyone else: Large Normal 200.
Strongmen for vig exist.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69849 Creature was a novice 1-shot strongman vig.

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oh ffs he fakeclaimed strongman vig lol nvm

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I like inf for getting shot because he talked like he knew you were town somewhat.
-Ali

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no I'm talking about a game that was finished.
-Ali

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Hey! That works too!

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Gin post game I'll tell you why I suddenly dissapeared.
pedit: Blame Cloudie.
Also Snakey I'm fine with your vig pool.

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Alisae you might get this joke but I think I have a curse of getting lynched D1 whenever there is a Vig involved

Poor Gin.
#Traumatized.
Also does this mean late game I'm supposed to carry town or something?

-Ali

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So I'm down to lynch Inf, RC, and Aella.
VOTE: Aella
Never liked them before the hammer. Never liked them after the hammer.
-Ali

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VOTE: Aella
This looks like scum hiding in the sidelines, avoiding real conflict

This looks like distancing.
-Ali

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I didn't know you were at L-1 my bad if you're town

Eager is you aren't shooting RC on a Gin Town flip shoot this ...

On a Gin scum flip shoot Infinity IMO ...

Bop
-Ali

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It's on the basis that you knew Gin was town and was trying to buddy him. Ya know, to get townread, because scum like getting townread.
-Ali

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Why couldn't I have been town who just had a townread on him? I think I pointed out a lot of specifics which contributed to my read...

You could be. But your predecessor was sus as all hell and Gin attacked him for that. He responded badly and replaced out.

Cakez's read on spammers looks like S/T

How did you draw this conclusion?
-Ali

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So I'm down to lynch Inf, RC, and Aella.
VOTE: Aella
Never liked them before the hammer. Never liked them after the hammer.
-Ali

Where is your other vote going. You are a day 2 double voter?

I thought my one vote was just doubled as a doublevoter.
Didn't know they were two seperate votes tbh.
If they are seperate votes then VOTE: Aella
-Ali

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I was hoping to not be alive today tbh.

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuh why are you thinking like this?
-Ali

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I've never seen a scum player be so loud, attention-seeking and death-defying before.

This is so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so not why I am town this game and Lane will probably blow up at you for this post by the way.

Why are you talking like this holy fucking shit?
These words are just not things town says.
-Ali

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Hi, i bet it seems wierd im showing up when being asked to hammer
-CK

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Will read the day
-CK

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@mod : can i get a VC please

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VOTE: RC
VOTE: RC

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RC I really don't believe your posting today was towny at all.
Sorry ;~;
-Ali

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UNVOTE:

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I'll play!
How many coins do I have to put in the arcade?
-Ali

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VOTE: RC
VOTE: RC
Here are my coins
Seriously when has self-voting been pro-town again?
-Ali

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dw, RC's word is law.
-Ali

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a town!Slaking
-Ali

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Beatlejuice!
I hate switching onto Hydras RC.
-Ali

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Massive could be a good shot, or it can't be.
-Ali

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Dude.
Duuuuuuude.
I like that guy!
-Ali