Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[Transcend]

Because i think he's town

I don't articulate myself very well

Sorry

[Vifam]

its ok

[Vifam]

I actually was looking forward to an answer tho ngl

[Transcend]

I feel it's mostly just gut like i really can't explain this one, but everything about this guy screams "mislynch!"

[Grendel]

Nah I think Rauth is town still

I'm not very sure. I played with him once as town!Ruath and he seemed much more engaged, and invested in interacting with others.

THis game he comes across as much more guarded, and self centered.

Because i think he's town

I don't articulate myself very well

Sorry

Are you one of those ppl that form all their reads based off personal tells.

Its hard working with ppl like that you kno?

[Transcend]

I don't know what personal tells are but basically i read people's thought processes and attempt to decide if it's genuine or fake.

[Vifam]

That's cool it's like your a psychologist

[Vifam]

Idk I thought the way Rauth reacted to his wagon on D1 was town, he is ignoring the wagon on Matt though which I dont really like

[Transcend]

Sorta

What's the case on matt tho

[Vifam]

Personally I just dont have a strong townread on him so I could see him flipping scum

[Transcend]

Is there no actual case on the dude

[RadiantCowbells]

Transcend you're making me want to vote you again.

Does me saying that he's scum count?

[Transcend]

No lol

[Grendel]

I don't know what personal tells are but basically i read people's thought processes and attempt to decide if it's genuine or fake.

Personal tell= a tell you made up

I meant like when a player has a read that they don't explain because they fear explaining it will make it less effective in future.

You seemed like that kind of player tbh

Sorta

What's the case on matt tho

Personally I didn't like the shift of his reads going into today, and the short unexplained piecemeal reads. They seemed arbitrary due to the lack of follow up on his part, and how defensive he was when getting called out. Namely Matts view on Kesyer comes to mind.

I also didn't see a reason to town read him beyond where he sat on my wagon D1.

I had some pending thoughts, but wanted to engage him a bit first.

[Transcend]

Unless I'm given a case that could negate my theory then i probably won't waver my read.

[JarJarDrinks]

I mean there's still value in wasting a nightkill. But if JJD is going to flip his shit at me I might as well come clean and try to get town on the same page.

I don't know how you can think getting "town on the same page" is more valuable than potentially wasting a nightkill. Like you'd have to have a pretty strong townread on me to even consider it. And even if u do, it's still probably not worth it.

[Transcend]

I guess I'll look into his engagements today

[JarJarDrinks]

There are 3 players I will NOT be voting today:

RadiantCowbells
.....

U were who I was counting on key.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not sure if you've caught on yet JJD but I am absolutely sick and tired of wasting my time defending myself instead of lynching scum. If I can get you to fuck off it's worth it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have played with Town!Matt and Town!Matt was obvious town. He has done nothing whatsoever this game to merit a townread.

[mattblackguy]

Spoiler: 891

Why is Keyser a strong townread? I can see him as scum.

Explain this beyond, "He still had his RVS vote out"

Surly there is more to this read then that alone.

That's not really what I said. I said he didn't make a vote outside of RVS. His last vote was you which was still mainly a RVS vote. He unvoted later, but then didn't try to put pressure on anyone. He thought Gerry was town, but didn't bother making a wagon on someone else. The fact that day 1 only lasted 3 days could have contributed to the fact that he didn't try to make a wagon, and nothing else really concerned me about Keyser, but I'm still keeping it open.

Spoiler: 890

{Alisae,Grendel}
{RC,Keyser,Sheep}
{Vifam}
{Gerry,JarJar}

I'm fine with a Gerry lynch today, but I don't think 464 should ever come from any non-newbie town player.

VOTE: JarJar

Which is why I'm more confident on my read of you and Grendel than a few others.

Why were you town reading me?

I usually remember when someone town reads me, but for some reason seeing this surprised me.

Also your Jar jar read. You seemed sure he was scum yesterday, but now its like he is the shining hero who is defeating evil RC for you. Like you reads coming into today seem to have flipped completely.

Like why is RC scum instead of town but wrong?

I think the wagon on you had 1/2 scum on it that didn't want to take a stance on the RC/Gerry situation. Your reaction to the wagon felt towny to me and reflected all my thoughts on it. I didn't like Jar's play day 1, and still don't agree with sheeping townreads on someone you don't scumread. I also said this earlier in the day about Jar "Oh and as far as JarJar goes his push on RC is towniest thing I've seen so far on day 2. The tone was genuine, and all his points so far toward RC are valid concerns yet everyone is ignoring him." As far as RC goes Jar expressed a lot of my concerns, but RC really strengthened my read on him with his bullshit push on me. He can't even give a half-decent reason but pushes me anyway.

Either RC is way worse that I thought at playing town (and for someone that sure loves to stroke his ego, and gloat on how great he is I find that hard to believe), or he's scum. Seriously the fact that RC played with me last game yet is calling me scum is laughable if he actually is town.

Spoiler: 889

I understand what you're saying RC. You're going for the mislynch on me, and night kill on JarJar, so you can easily coast to victory.

Weren't you town reading RC earlier?

It seems like you went into D2 town reading him.

When did that change?

I commented on that above. If you concerned on how my reads shift, it's because I reconsider things, and go back reread as time goes on. If I think someone is scum day 1, but then go back and reread, and feel their day 2 play is really towny then I change my opinion, and vice versa. I don't lock myself into my day 1 reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's better.

UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Rautherdir

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't townread the slot but

Either RC is way worse that I thought at playing town (and for someone that sure loves to stroke his ego, and gloat on how great he is I find that hard to believe), or he's scum. Seriously the fact that RC played with me last game yet is calling me scum is laughable if he actually is town.

puts him no longer at the bottom of my scumpile.

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually I kinda want to vote Transcend again.