Mafia 72: Peril in Panama - Game over!
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Why are you assuming that mafia will automatically take him out? When I was scum and there was a suspicious claimed doc, we left them alive for day 2 to screw with everyone (but they got vigged anyhow).ckd wrote:I dont understand why people (Gage, pete d, Albert B. Rampage) re still voting for our claim doc..any reason why those voting for him want to do the mafia work for them?
With statements like this, why would mafia get rid of BM if he was a doc?ckd wrote:but I would be more inclined to lynch him tomorrow to see if mafia bags him tonight.- curiouskarmadog
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Pete D raises a good point. But usually the mafia would prefer not to risk keeping the doc alive, because should there be a cop claim, it ensures that cop an extra investigation, and other NKs can get blocked in the meantime.
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erm no. thats not what i said atall. If im not killed tonight, i wouldnt blame you for killing me tomorrow. But tbh, the scum will prob kill me tonight, except in very exceptional circumstances.
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I'm really tempted to vote for pete d based on this. It looks to me like an excuse in advance for Battle Mage not being nightkilled.pete d wrote:
Why are you assuming that mafia will automatically take him out? When I was scum and there was a suspicious claimed doc, we left them alive for day 2 to screw with everyone (but they got vigged anyhow).ckd wrote:I dont understand why people (Gage, pete d, Albert B. Rampage) re still voting for our claim doc..any reason why those voting for him want to do the mafia work for them?
With statements like this, why would mafia get rid of BM if he was a doc?ckd wrote:but I would be more inclined to lynch him tomorrow to see if mafia bags him tonight.
The reason for Mafia to get rid of doc-Battle Mage is the same as for any other doctor... because they don't want their nightkill interfered with. That doesn't change just because Battle Mage is likely to be lynched tomorrow. Additionally, if Battle Mage is scum, you've just provided an excuse for him when he's not nightkilled.
Why would you suggest the scum-strategy you employed in a previous game if you're town, pete d?"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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You are the mafia framer who is setting up the townie framer. You are both doing the same thing, but I sense that the place you come from is not genuine. Pete has reached similar conclusions to me, and I believe it has no malignity in it. You however...
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Okay. On a reread it's clearer what you're saying, I guess, though I still don't understand your logic. You think that Battle Mage is scum (I agree with this, but I don't want to lynch a claimed doc and be wrong), and so you think we should just lynch him now.
And I did not read it that pete d was agreeing with this, but rather making an excuse (since it looks unlikely that Battle Mage will be lynched today) for why Battle Mage would be left alive tomorrow, as if he knew that would be the case.
But I can see on a reread how you would think that pete d was saying we should just lynch Battle Mage now.
Still, your weird "framer" thing is just beyond me. Maybe you can explain better who the town framer is, in your scenario. And why town would frame someone, in the first place."Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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BM might be scum, but he's not the smartest crayon in the box, so it wouldn't surprise me he fucked it up as doc. You on the other hand, I am certain that you are scum after reading your posts in this page.
Pete D said what we were all thinking. His thought process is clear.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- Bookitty
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I didn't find it especially clear.
Is ABR right? Is suggesting scum strategies generally considered a pro-town tell, and not to be questioned? I'd like some other people to weigh in on this point."Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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How is suggesting that the mafia keep the doc alive a bad thing for the town ?
Pete D makes *perfect* sense. You just want to find an excuse to say someone is scummy.pete d wrote:
Why are you assuming that mafia will automatically take him out? When I was scum and there was a suspicious claimed doc, we left them alive for day 2 to screw with everyone (but they got vigged anyhow).ckd wrote:I dont understand why people (Gage, pete d, Albert B. Rampage) re still voting for our claim doc..any reason why those voting for him want to do the mafia work for them?
With statements like this, why would mafia get rid of BM if he was a doc?ckd wrote:but I would be more inclined to lynch him tomorrow to see if mafia bags him tonight.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- Dragon Phoenix
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I guess I dont understand why mafia would leave a doctor alive. Now, we could all go into a long discussion about this but I would rather not give the mafia any more reason to act, or not to act.
In reference to Bookitty, I agree with her theory, but I dont think PeteD was scummy for saying it. That said, I think what Pete D didnt say could be viewed as scummy. I said I didnt understand why people are still voting the claim doc...instead of answering me (like you blatantly did ABR) he came back with this response:
"Why are you assuming that mafia will automatically take him out?" "With statements like this, why would mafia get rid of BM if he was a doc?"
this doesnt sounds like someone who thinks BM is scum. So again, I dont understand the vote or the prespective.
I might have voted Pete D, but Bookkitty's response was..strange...I think Pete D response was scummy for different reasons, and I dont understand why she thinks it was scummy and it seemed forced...
so I am at a loss.
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Hi everyone. I read the thread today. First, I believe BM's claim but even if I didn't I wouldn't be willing to vote him today. Besides the fact that scum will be motivated to NK him (and we should not be doing mafia's work for them) there's also the issue that hasn't been mentioned, which is the fact that we have 2 claimed masons. If mafia chooses not to NK BM they will likely target one of the masons. If they happen to target the one BM protects, scum gets no NK. If they decide not to risk it, both our masons survive and they maybe hit the SK or a vanilla instead. Making the mafia sweat who to target is enough reason for me to definitively say that I will not be voting BM today.
I'm out of time and will post my analysis tomorrow. - Setael
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