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Post #1264 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:10 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
@CloudKicker, at the end of the last day phase, Transcend and Aj were both at L-1. Why did you choose to hammer Aj over transcend? I remember a game I played a while back ago, Micro 657. Both myself and another player were at L-1. His scum buddy hammered me instead of him. Since today is LyLo, it makes sense that CloudKicker, should he be scum with transcend, would decide to hammer AJ over him.
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Post #1269 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:15 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
VOTE: CloudKicker
I'll go through this more in depth tonight. I am not liking the interactions that I have seen between Tweet/Transcend and Transcend/CK. I think they make the most sense as a scum team.
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In post 1175, Transcend wrote:I don't see myself not getting hammered when i wake up so
Never lynch cloud or comm and a gun to my head, Alisae is prob town.
In post 1196, Transcend wrote:Alisae is prob scum unless both scum sheeped me two days in a row. Let's be real, both of those mislynches were my fault.
Also i kinda don't understand how Alisae actually knew Aj was town.
I'm fairly sure Parama/Think is the partner but I'd be a fool to insta vote.
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Post #1367 (isolation #19) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:12 am
Postby ThinkBig »
In post 1361, Alisae wrote:Well this is telling...
Trans I can also say that you are scum with Cloudie because you would hammer him without hesitation if you weren't.
I agree. Once cloud flips scum, the only logical partner is transcend.
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Post #1410 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:59 am
Postby ThinkBig »
In post 400, Stormcloud wrote: I didn't want to have to reveal day 1 because one of us will probably get killed tonight - but at least tomorrow we'll have one confirmed town to work with.
Or maybe scum leave us both up to WIFOM, idk.
I was probably already getting killed before I claimed so might as well:
I breadcrumbed in my first two posts if anyone still doesn't believe me.
implosion and I are Town Masons
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This right here is why I believe the no kill was scum theatre. If there was a doctor, why wasn't he on the masons?
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Post #1411 (isolation #29) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:12 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
So let's play a little icebreaker game for day 4. It's called word association. I'm gonna name one word, you post the first thing that comes to your mind.
I thought tweet L-2'd me when i was phone scrolling, but it was connan
Makes no sense. This was Cloud's slot, who flipped scum. Why did you town read him and then do a complete 180 without explaining why you had a TR on him and without explaining why you lost that town read.
In post 46, Transcend wrote:Comm: even if i got ran up to L-1, i wouldn't claim there. The idea is to give scum as little info as possible because they already know everyone's alignment. So a claim from me isn't gonna help especially if I'm a very important role and being ran up for no reason.
Still tr comm and i find implosion's vote there opportunistic. I don't know why he stopped why he started, when he did, and on who he did.
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Post #1412 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:16 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
In short, here is a summary against Transcend:
His reads and progression throughout the game makes no sense. His votes are opportunistic and his reasoning is contrieved. He voted and FOS'd almost every player in the game.
He strongly believed that he was getting lynched on day 2 until scum!Cloud hammered AJ. This is why I feel Transcend is probably scum. If Transcend is scum, then it makes sense for cloud to hammer AJ over Transcend as that will make yesterday LyLo. Which it was.
His reaction to my vote on Cloud, and cloud's flip, shows that they are almost certainly aligned together. He was way too buddy-buddy with cloud (who flipped scum) to
not
be paired.
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Post #1413 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:20 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
In post 1409, Transcend wrote:If there was a no kill, scum!me has 0 incentive to do that as I'd have to convince TWO slots that I'm scum as opposed to just one. I'm not an idiot, i know im suspicious, and if I'm scum, then no killing is basically signing my own death warrant.
I really do not like this reasoning. This boils down to "LAMIST." Also, scum!Transcend has every reason to no kill. It puts WIFOM in front of the town and it will be harder to put you immediately at L-1, which is what I'd have done if this was a 3 way LyLo.
Again, I believe strongly that the no kill was scum theatrics.
If there is a doctor, please claim. I also would like to know who you doctored and why you weren't on the masons.
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Post #1419 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:35 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
No lynch only allows scum another night to kill and allows them to choose their opponent in a 3-way LyLo. What information do we learn if there is a no lynch and Comm gets killed?
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Post #1433 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:57 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
Sweet victory. Good game all!! Would love some feedback on my play. I can't believe they made it that easy. I read almost none of the threat when I replaced in.
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Post #1443 (isolation #40) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:16 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
In post 1442, CommKnight wrote:Not gonna lie, it's Parama's slot that I was kinda feeling iffy about, otherwise Trans would've been obvious a bit earlier for me. Like it was one of the two but I couldn't sort them out until TB came in and pulled some ballsy moves.
Lol. It was ballsy alright, but had someone came in and attempted to quick vote, I'd have quickly unvoted and voted for that person. The fact that he wasn't quick hammered proved that he was scum.
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Post #1460 (isolation #47) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:54 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
also cloudkicker you knew full well i meant real-life tonight and not game-day tonight when i said i would read later tonight, i have a policy of never reading overnight tbh
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Yeah. That blatant shade throwing is partially why I pushed him hard
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Post #1478 (isolation #52) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:37 pm
Postby ThinkBig »
In post 1477, Aj The Epic wrote:Okay no offense Transcend but in the limited time I've played with you, you made NUMEROUS scum tells here, from the faint manipulation attempts with Stormcloud that benefited you alone to the reads lists you've literally never done before (pairings on like page2). Your reads on this final day had a subtle behavioral scumtell as you always IMPLICITLY suggested you should be lynched second. You'd be calling bullshit all over that any other game instead of accepting it.
You realize I never actually fully read this game, right? I got to about page 35. Thought you were scum for sure on 25, had inklings on page 5. There's a REASON people scum read you, it wasn't random luck. I get that you're salty or whatever but you all massively fucked up this final day. It was ON YOU for not trusting your partner to carry you in LYLO when you had become a liability by your position on lynches and as a counterwagon to double town wagons. Stop feeding this bullshit that it was luck, town was dead on with their lynches here.
+1
The Aj lynch was opportunistic as fuck and was an easy push for scum, as was KainTepes and my slot. Transcend did hardly anything except for shit post.
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In post 1484, Transcend wrote:Still really salty about this loss since i spearheaded two mislynches
I think people are trying to tell you that you put yourself in a very weak position because you did that. Remember that your wincon isn't to be responsible for the most lynches or to go ahead early -- it's to have anyone on your team survive to endgame, regardless of who pushes the MLs.
If Cloud had hammered you, I think he might have coasted to the win, and this is coming from someone who thinks people bus WAY too often.
I agree with this. I agree with every part of this. After day 2, transcend was becoming a liability to his team.
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