Open 671: Greater Idea - OVER

[Vaxkiller]

I get dave and bang, but alban leans town for me.

Talk to me.

I liked his thought process in his posts and his thoughts on RC left me with good feelings.

I missed post 529, and it is pretty scummy, especially when you consider after the RC flip he failed to post anything until 529, and he was pretty talkative before that.

aaaaaand now I have the same reads as you as well.

I really cant decide whos worse, davesaz or alban.

I'm also worried about Kop lurking. He was pretty silent (with the exception of his vote) after the RC flip too, and with a massive 6 posts, I cant get a read.

[-Grey-]

I'm also worried about Kop lurking. He was pretty silent (with the exception of his vote) after the RC flip too, and with a massive 6 posts, I cant get a read.

He's my second guess for bussing scum.

[-Grey-]

aaaaaand now I have the same reads as you as well.

Too many people agreeing with too many of my reads.

There some strange shit going on.

[-Grey-]

I liked his thought process in his posts

Give examples of what specifically you liked and why, please.

[Vaxkiller]

I liked his push on spade and you early game and his defense on RC when NM and char were on him. To be clear tho, I stayed away from RC and NM because I thought they might be lyncher/jester. Albans thoughts are pretty transparent and he put some time into posts like 375, even if hes the only one that believes it.

[Vaxkiller]

Too many people agreeing with too many of my reads.

I have a post restriction to post like you.

[Vaxkiller]

You won't be lynching me.

I hate this so much.

Can you give us some thoughts instead of squirming around when you have a few votes on you?

[-Grey-]

Too many people agreeing with too many of my reads.

I have a post restriction to post like you.

I can't imagine anyone not replacing out in that position.

[Gamma Emerald]

Firebringer had a post restriction that forced him to "talkz likez thisz" in a game

[-Grey-]

Would someone please be so kind as to post a reads list so I can be all lazy and copy/reorder it?

[-Grey-]

@Grey, I think Dave is being setup. In 530 Lowell has very unambiguously nominated Dave for day 2 lynch. Which scum would so blatantly get associated with such a nightkill?

Scum that stands to be outed with a guilty result from an investigative role that softed his target the day before.

"Scum would never" is shittastic, lazy thinking that empowers scum to do the most blatantly scummy things.

[-Grey-]

You won't be lynching me.

Posts like these mean nothing in role madness games.

Since pretty much everybody is a power role of one faction or another, yes we may very well be lynching you if you don't pull your head out of your ass and find sum.

[-Grey-]

scum*

[Gamma Emerald]

This game is not role madness. There is the possibility of VTs.

[-Grey-]

{Vaxkiller, Spade Ace}
{Gamma Emerald}
{Not Mafia}
{bangthemafia, Kop}
{davesaz, alban}

That's about where I am ATM. I don't care at all for dave's attitude of entitlement when he has not done a thing to earn it. It looks like scum posturing.

[-Grey-]

This game is not role madness. There is the possibility of VTs.

I don't live in " theoretically possible" land. I live in reality land.

In reality land, people will choose scum over VT.

[Gamma Emerald]

imo the only people who would make sense as VTs at this point are NM and Vax.
So you may be right, since a game with one VT still technically counts as role madness (also counts as normal btw)

[-Grey-]

I think...

Actually...

Yeah...

I'm gonna sheep Gamma today.

VOTE: bangthemafia

[bangthemafia]

@bang if you are town, then trust me, am not scum.

In that case, let me reiterate. Trust me, I am a townie. But, truely speaking this (589) is the only post where I felt yes, you could be a townie too. And so right now I am not moving my vote from you. But not hard-parking it there too. So then walk me through your scumreads, Spade. Whom do you scumread and why?

You won't be lynching me.

Dave, dont show this attitude. If you are a townie, put up a defense.

Can meta*

Thats still vague, Gamma. Elaborate what "general actions and things I said" were scummy to you.
Read on spade, general actions and things you've said
don't like the "still on page 1" attack
VOTE: bangthemafia

[bangthemafia]

It's obviously a frame given his parting words. Though it should be so transparently a frame that nobody should buy it.
But at a much higher level than this, think a little bit about what I've said all game and realize that town is much better off if you take me permanently off the table.

If you're taken permanently off the table, you also become a high priority nk.

I would think a valuable role would want to be suspected but not heavily wagoned, to keep scum hoping they might be a future mislynch.

This game is not role madness. There is the possibility of VTs.

I don't live in " theoretically possible" land. I live in reality land.

In reality land, people will choose scum over VT.

Agree with and like the above 2 posts of Grey.

@Grey, I think Dave is being setup. In 530 Lowell has very unambiguously nominated Dave for day 2 lynch. Which scum would so blatantly get associated with such a nightkill?

Scum that stands to be outed with a guilty result from an investigative role that softed his target the day before.

"Scum would never" is shittastic, lazy thinking that empowers scum to do the most blatantly scummy things.

Maybe. But why and how would scum presume that Lowell was an investigative role. He just said Dave was his guy for day 2. That could just mean he wanted keep Dave for lynching on day 2 and focus on Charl day 1. Thats exactly what I thought about Spade. I found him scummy but wanted to lynch Charl first.

aaaaaand now I have the same reads as you as well.

Too many people agreeing with too many of my reads.

There some strange shit going on.

I will tell you what that strange shit is. I think scum have found a town leader in you and are trying to be clear in your eyes and sheep you in your reads.

I think...

Actually...

Yeah...

I'm gonna sheep Gamma today.

VOTE: bangthemafia

Can you just think of and post reasons why you are voting for me. If you dont, I have nothing more to say or defend.

[bangthemafia]

Can meta*

Read on spade, general actions and things you've said
don't like the "still on page 1" attack
VOTE: bangthemafia

Thats still vague, Gamma. Elaborate what "general actions and things I said" were scummy to you.

EBWOP

[alban]

Read all the posts.
Will post tonight.

[-Grey-]

Maybe. But why and how would scum presume that Lowell was an investigative role. He just said Dave was his guy for day 2. That could just mean he wanted keep Dave for lynching on day 2 and focus on Charl day 1. Thats exactly what I thought about Spade. I found him scummy but wanted to lynch Charl first.

It's scum's job to find investigative roles. "My guy for d2" raised all kinds of PR flags for me because it implies acting on results, and I'm town. So I know scum had him pegged.

[-Grey-]

Can you just think of and post reasons why you are voting for me. If you dont, I have nothing more to say or defend.

Who is scum? Who is town? Reads list, please.

I'm seeing some effort put in on defending yourself, but I'm not seeing any interest from you on solving the game.

[-Grey-]

{Vaxkiller, Spade Ace}
{Gamma Emerald}
{Not Mafia, bangthemafia}
{Kop}
{davesaz, alban}[/quote]

VOTE: alban

Did some reviewing of bang's ISO after his recent posts.

He can live for now.