Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!
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I'm really happy you're basing all your reads around meIn post 504, RadiantCowbells wrote:Because from specifically Gerry's posting the interactions between Gerry/Rautherdir look way imore SvS than Gerry/Vifam's. I concede that in a vacuum Vifam is probably scummier.-
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Cooperative Sheep Goon
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You certainly implied it though, and then defended the idea of not lynching him off of the meaningless-to-alignment tell of liking him. It's not a smoking gun, but if he's scum you've done actions that I can easily describe as defensive and deflective for the slot while also doing some sort of vague either-or setup for no discernible reason. It reads to me as a soft setup to allow you to push a false argument (one of them is scum, options open) but when questioned on it you kind of did an awkward defense of both. I think it reads as softly scummy in general, and if Gerry is scum I could see it as defense. Clearly you'll disagree, because either you're scum who will lie or you're town who did it without malice - but it's what it looks like to me.In post 503, Vifam wrote:I don't see how I've been wishy washy about Gerry, never said I was interested in lynching him or thought he was scum
How does the Gerry/Rauth thing line up in your mind exactly?In post 504, RadiantCowbells wrote:Because from specifically Gerry's posting the interactions between Gerry/Rautherdir look way imore SvS than Gerry/Vifam's. I concede that in a vacuum Vifam is probably scummier.-
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It's a few things.
Him calling my vote on Rautherdir and attempt to drag the game back to RVS seemed kinda chainsawy and didn't make much sense outside of that context and we all know how good my chainsaw reads are
He also, despite not claiming to have a read there, seems way too interested in other people's reads on the slot without actually getting personally involved with a read.
Also Rautherdir's reaction to the duelling wagons seemed really off.
But like in general it's not what's there it's what's absent. There's not a single post that I can point to and see any scumhunting going on in his brain behind the wheels.
Just feels like a series of disconnected posts that don't, as far as I can tell, have a single town train of thought underlying them.
Which could potentially be newb but I still think more likely than not to be scum.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Most of that, outside of Rauth not really owning a reaction to the RC v. Gerry situation, seems to be from Gerry's side, which could just as easily be scum Gerry faking a partnership since it's not a two way dance.
The reaction to the wagons, at least for me, falls within expected norms for Newbies. I think I'd still be more of a mind to flip a Vifam than a Rauth on a Gerry scum confirmation. I don't think your thoughts are insane-o sauce, but I feel like you're overlooking a hill for a pile of sand you built yourself as far as strength of connections go.-
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I do see what you're saying but I'm somewhat reluctant to think that Scum!Vifam would have had the balls to say that they weren't gonna vote their partner because they like them. Maybe I'm wrong.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Grendel Mafia Scum
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I don't understand the purpose of my wagon.
For instance I noticed a lack of "Grendel is scum comments".
That'd suggest that my wagon is supposed to be for pressure. Whats off though is that given that there are other players out that that have garnered actual suspicion my wagon just seems like... an excuse? The very same people on my wagon have proclaimed other players as scummy, but opted to pressure vote me instead. So, why are ppl so afraid to vote their scum reads?
I seem to recall Kiser being the only one actually suspicious of my slot. I don't recall the same for the rest. :/
Not to mention that there has been zero resistance to my wagon.-
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Gives piece meal statements about Gerry being a good wagon then votes Grendel b/c, " lol, Its my flavor"In post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
Why do you not want to lynch Gerry? He seems a perfectly fine lynch option.In post 407, Vifam wrote:If I had to put money on it Id say RC is town, I dont wanna lynch Gerry or RC today tho
I don't really see the Keyser love, but neither do I have an issue with the play from that slot so...I kinda tend to expect him to be town and at least one of the fanboi's to be scum sheeping him.
I see RC as town.
I'd be happy to lynch Gerry.
I also am not overly fond of Alisae or Vifam and would consider them secondary scum reads at this stage.
I don't share the Rauth dislike, he's a clear newb so pointing out a newbtown or newbscum issue with him is a bit like telling me grass is green. IIoA ahoy!
In the spirit of the purpose of this alt;
Vote: Grendel
Has a null read on Keyser. Which means that Sheep is sheeping a null read, while ignoring a wagon started by a town read (RC) on a slot he thinks is a good lynch (Gerry).
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I take up the position that the game state needs.In post 443, gerryoat wrote:Key is town. Grendel is at like L-1 i think lol. I mean i think he's different rn compared to his town game, but give him time to respond at least we are only 18 pages in
In games with an unproductive roster I'm much more aggressive. In games with hyper posters I'm more laid back.
Plus I was too tired the other day to do one of my elaborate opening posts w/ reaction test.
My play here has been very different from 1830, and I'm honestly surprised you haven't been pushing that point harder if you were truly scum reading me.-
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Sheep's vote was the turning point for my wagon's pick up.In post 520, Vifam wrote:It is alarming how fast your wagon popped up, I didn't even realize you were at L1
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You felt like sheeping 17 pages into the game but didn't feel like it at that start.In post 518, Vifam wrote:Tbh I just voted for you cuz I felt like sheeping
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In post 457, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey cooperative sheep, are you a fan of the word 'grok'?The mod is a HUGE fan of the word, but rarely uses it. I find that it is a handy shorthand for a fairly sophisticated concept of deduction, reasoning, and comprehension. However, the rarity of the word obviates its utility as a shorthand when it needs to be defined on every use.
One mod cookie to RC."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
Act 3, Scene 1 ofJulius Caesar, by W. Shakespeare
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