Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

gerryoat · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:09 am

In post 447, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's your scumbuddies trying to get him quicklynched to keep you alive. I mean I think it's shit play since you're all goign to be fucking obvious scum tomorrow but whatever floats your collective boat.

Yeah dude. I have 5 scum buddies. u caught me

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 am

Nah there's a lot of dumb town there as well.

gerryoat · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 am

In post 402, Vifam wrote:So far Keysar feels town

RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh

In post 407, Vifam wrote:If I had to put money on it Id say RC is town, I dont wanna lynch Gerry or RC today tho

In post 416, Vifam wrote:
In post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Why do you not want to lynch Gerry? He seems a perfectly fine lynch option.
I like Gerry

In post 423, Vifam wrote:I guess

RC didn't really sell me with her argument on Gerry being scum, although I did get town vibes from RC from the conversation

I could be convinced to lynch Gerry as the day goes on but I don't think he's done anything scummy yet

Seems like a lot of waffling for some reason.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:11 am

In post 444, gerryoat wrote:@Jar can you explain why Nau is obvious town? I really dont see it rn

???

Only person I called obvtown was keysor. Rau is actually kinda scummy to me.

gerryoat · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:11 am

In post 451, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nah there's a lot of dumb town there as well.

Yeah, I think i found one.

You

gerryoat · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:12 am

Maybe i misread it. hold on

Vifam · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:12 am

I think Rau's reaction to people voting him was town, he seemed to seek to understand and not get completely defensive like newbscum would usually get in that situation

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:13 am

Hey cooperative sheep, are you a fan of the word 'grok'?

Vifam · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:13 am

In post 452, gerryoat wrote:Seems like a lot of waffling for some reason.

I never said I was interested in lynching either of you so I don't see how im waffling

gerryoat · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:14 am

In post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:I don't share the Rauth dislike, he's a clear newb so pointing out a newbtown or newbscum issue with him is a bit like telling me grass is green. IIoA ahoy!

could you explain?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:15 am

In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...
Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.

UNVOTE: Akarin, she'll get prodded soon anyways...

In post 428, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.

In post 402, Vifam wrote:RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh
How come neither of you (or at least Vifam) is affected by the cop claim as far as assessing a TvS theory setup?
I would think that would tend to sharply affect your value call if you were pretty sure at least one, but not both players were scum.
That's the reason I'm reading over the game again. I don't know how to handle a claim like that, I'm trying to figure out if I should trust RC's claim or not.

In post 430, Rautherdir wrote:CoopSheep, looking over the game again, I'm going to say you're right about not lynching RC today. I do think we shouldn't lynch Gerry quite yet though. While reading through the game some posts caught my eye.

390 again, why didn't you vote me if you thought it was scummy? JarJar, could you also explain your vote on RC? Do you think he's more likely to be scum as of me?

414 Seriously? Transcend, remind me again why you are voting me.

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gerryoat · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:15 am

You guys put too much into "noobscum would do this. noob town would do that" it's really bad. he could just be an alt

gerryoat · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:16 am

Ah okay, i dont really find that scummy at all. Jar what's scummy about that?

Vifam · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:17 am

In post 461, gerryoat wrote:You guys put too much into "noobscum would do this. noob town would do that" it's really bad. he could just be an alt

Yeah but I think the way he handled the wagon on him looked town so

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:17 am

In post 449, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 432, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 427, Vifam wrote:I didn't really take RC's cop claim that seriously
I didn't @ first either. That's what raised my eyebrow about Gerrys response. He immediately believed it and was just like "well ur reads are wrong".
AND YOU JUMPED ON A WAGON TO PUT IT AT L-2 ON SOMEONE WHO NO CASE HAS BEEN PROVIDED AGAINST. MAKES SENSE.

I was asked to join the wagon and 2 people I'm townreading are currently on him. Seemed like a fine place for a vote.

As for Gerry, there's 1 thing he did that I felt was scummy. Not everyone plays like you and deathtunnels the first person they scumread on day 1.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:17 am

What 'about' the way that he handled the wagon on him looked town?

Vifam · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:18 am

In post 456, Vifam wrote:I think Rau's reaction to people voting him was town, he seemed to seek to understand and not get completely defensive like newbscum would usually get in that situation

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:18 am

Except I don't always deathtunnel the first person that I scumread on day 1. Great job buying into Gerryoat's shitty discrediting and teaching him that it's a viable playstyle.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:19 am

Also I would say on the other hand that newb!Town are way more likely to get defensive where newb!Scum are more likely to negotiate their way out, or am I wrong?

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:19 am

gerryoat wrote:Ah okay, i dont really find that scummy at all. Jar what's scummy about that?

U mean the post from Rau I FOSed?

I already explained to him:

In post 397, JarJarDrinks wrote:Grendel kinda hit on it in 157. It's very LAMIST. Like you're making sure the town knows that you're just doing what townies are supposed to do.

Vifam · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:20 am

In post 468, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also I would say on the other hand that newb!Town are way more likely to get defensive where newb!Scum are more likely to negotiate their way out, or am I wrong?

I've always seen it the other way around

Town are usually much more willing to come to an understanding if they feel like they aren't being unfairly persecuted. Scum tend to either just be like fuck you or lessen their activity

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:22 am

Uhh I'm sorry but I'm calling bullshit. You say 'if they feel like they aren't being unfairly persecuted' but FMPOV newbtown ALWAYS feel like they are being unfairly persecuted.

gerryoat · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:22 am

In post 467, RadiantCowbells wrote:Except I don't always deathtunnel the first person that I scumread on day 1. Great job buying into Gerryoat's shitty discrediting and teaching him that it's a viable playstyle.

lmao whenever you brag about how good you think you are, i'm gonna post this game

Vifam · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:23 am

uh ok fair enough lol

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:23 am

Like they usually either shut down and start trying to appease everyone (which is not scummy from newbtown ftr) or they start flipping shit and calling everyone who votes them scum.

Your claim that newb!Town are more likely to negotiate with people they aren't sure are town than newb!Scum who usually try to get everyone to unvote them because they know they're town is just asinine.