Open 671: Greater Idea - OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

Grey
spade
vax
that's the dave wagon rn

[-Grey-]

@grey is Dave more scummier than Bang? I prefer a bang or alban lynch?
@gamma NM had a good reason to vote for rc

You'd have had better luck trying to get me to vote alban after his behavior around the Charloux wagon.

I don't trust my early d1 reads but alban really scummed it up at the end.

I also don't really trust anyone whose scumreads mirror my own because that never really happens.

[Vaxkiller]

Whos mirroring your scum reads?

[-Grey-]

Whos mirroring your scum reads?

Lynch pool: {bang, alban}

@grey is Dave more scummier than Bang? I prefer a bang or alban lynch?

[Spade_Ace]

I have been scumread on day1, 5/6 games i have played here on MS. My style is just scummy. I find it convenient that alban and bang, guys who know the way i play, using my playstyle as a reason to suspect me. They did the exact same thing in a previous game and tried to get me lynched.

The reason am sheeping you is cos ur reasoning for your reads are good. Charloux and Dave

[Gamma Emerald]

btw I am SRing those two as well so *eh*

[-Grey-]

I have been scumread on day1, 5/6 games i have played here on MS. My style is just scummy. I find it convenient that alban and bang, guys who know the way i play, using my playstyle as a reason to suspect me. They did the exact same thing in a previous game and tried to get me lynched.

The reason am sheeping you is cos ur reasoning for your reads are good. Charloux and Dave

My vote on you was just a troll vote, btw.

I do get paranoid over people who have the same reads I do, though.

[-Grey-]

Grey
spade
vax
that's the dave wagon rn

I approve of the wagon composition so far.

I'm also fairly sure Charloux was bussed. He didn't even try to defend himself, he knew he was toast.

[-Grey-]

That... actually suggests bang is scum.

Cool.

And alban being scum off the wagon makes sense too.

I can lynch either of {Dave, bang, alban}

[Vaxkiller]

I get dave and bang, but alban leans town for me.

[-Grey-]

I was actually prepared to give Charloux the benefit of the doubt and consider him a derp vig if he had actually put up a fight against his wagon.

Laying down and taking the lynch was just caught scum resignation. I'm sure he has at least one buddy on the wagon.

Hell, maybe two.

[-Grey-]

I get dave and bang, but alban leans town for me.

Talk to me.

[bangthemafia]

I have been scumread on day1, 5/6 games i have played here on MS. My style is just scummy. I find it convenient that alban and bang, guys who know the way i play, using my playstyle as a reason to suspect me. They did the exact same thing in a previous game and tried to get me lynched.

The reason am sheeping you is cos ur reasoning for your reads are good. Charloux and Dave

Misrepresentation. Seeking sympathies by the "I so innocent, but my style is scummy" act. Majorly buttering Grey.

When you said that you didnt even read my last post, how do you say I am suspecting you for your style. Go read my 400. I sm scum reading you NOT because you are playing your usual game which you feel is scummy, but BCOZ u r NOT ur usual self. Anybody who wants caneta Spade's town and scum games. If mod allows, I can post the link too.

@grey is Dave more scummier than Bang? I prefer a bang or alban lynch?
@gamma NM had a good reason to vote for rc

You'd have had better luck trying to get me to vote alban after his behavior around the Charloux wagon.

I don't trust my early d1 reads but alban really scummed it up at the end.

I also don't really trust anyone whose scumreads mirror my own because that never really happens.

Trust your instincts, Grey!

btw I am SRing those two as well so *eh*

I get dave and bang, but alban leans town for me.

Gamma, Vax, can you elaborate readpns for scum reading me? Dont tell me you are still on page 1!

[bangthemafia]

Can meta*

[Spade_Ace]

@bang if you are town, then trust me, am not scum.

[-Grey-]

Charl is known to carry out such stunts as scum. He did that in our last game as scum partners, and I think he is generally trying to take boldness as scum to another level. Playing in a way that's so obviously scummy that people will clear your slot. Plus, his earlier statement about not bothering about who between rc and nm is lynchec was scummy too.

But I still wanna hear more from him. Why of what he did. He always makes cryptic posts. So don't hammer rn.

These two paragraphs do not make sense together.

Alban starts off his post all about how Charl is very likely scum, then ends it wanting to give him opportunity to escape his fate.

[davesaz]

You won't be lynching me.

[-Grey-]

That's a heck of an event to catch up to. Facepalm / told you so moment, on reading too much into discards.
RC gave a pretty decent PR tell. I don't see a town vig being willing to risk that kind of shot so early on such thin reasoning. I think Charloux is scum - it would not be policy for me.
I don't know the VC so don't know if the L-1 is accurate. Willing to hammer.

Why the hesitation to vote a scumread?

[-Grey-]

Also, you disappeared after I pointed out the five votes, and didn't pop back in today.

That's convenient.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can meta*

Read on spade, general actions and things you've said
don't like the "still on page 1" attack
VOTE: bangthemafia

[-Grey-]

Also, you disappeared after I pointed out the five votes, and didn't pop back in until today.

That's convenient.

EBWOP

[davesaz]

Post #520 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:41 pm (my post saying I'm willing to hammer)

Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:26 pm (Lowell)

Anyone care if I hammer here? I can wait until tomorrow but I like hammers so no one jump me on this one.

Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:30 pm (Grey)

Hammer away.

Answer:

1. Playstyle. After giving intent I give people time to talk unless deadline is right there.

2. To the best of my recollection I was playing Dungeon Crawl those 3 hours. Not like it's an urgent matter anyway, right?

3. If I had hammered, you morons would be calling it a bus anyway

[-Grey-]

The hammer flipping bloodhound puts you in quite the pickle, here.

If he had flipped pretty much anything else, I'd call his NK an indication that you're town because you could have pushed him today if you were scum.

But he was a high priority nk, so there goes that theory.

[davesaz]

It's obviously a frame given his parting words. Though it should be so transparently a frame that nobody should buy it.
But at a much higher level than this, think a little bit about what I've said all game and realize that town is much better off if you take me permanently off the table.

[-Grey-]

It's obviously a frame given his parting words. Though it should be so transparently a frame that nobody should buy it.
But at a much higher level than this, think a little bit about what I've said all game and realize that town is much better off if you take me permanently off the table.

If you're taken permanently off the table, you also become a high priority nk.

I would think a valuable role would want to be suspected but not heavily wagoned, to keep scum hoping they might be a future mislynch.