OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:43 am

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In post 2474, Realeo wrote:Oh no. It's already different topic! :mrgreen: We are no longer talk about that!

I'm saying that "TB is town cuz AH pushed on him" is a moot point due to White Flag Gambit. My mistake for not setting the context.
I just want to use grapes laziness to continue scumhunt.
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:47 am

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It's just now I have 3 priority

[ 1 ] Convince that nydus is wrong about Desperado scum (or the other way around)
[ 2 ] Convince that Desperado is wrong about SH (or the other way around)
[ 3 ] Convince that SH is wrong about Desperado (or the other way around)
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:05 am

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In post 2474, Realeo wrote:Oh no. It's already different topic! :mrgreen: We are no longer talk about that!

I'm saying that "TB is town cuz AH pushed on him" is a moot point due to White Flag Gambit. My mistake for not setting the context.
Ohhhh.... Unless AH's slot was dying before he replaced, I disagree because AH came into the game trying to push on TB right away. That was literally his opening post.
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:08 am

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Dunnstral finally lynched thank god xD. These days go on for too long when the lynches are somewhat obvious.
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:09 am

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lmao there was nothing obvious about a dunn lynch
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:09 am

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in fact it wasn't even a possibility until reg started pushing it
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:10 am

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and whaddaya know

both of my scum reads sheeped reg's read

again

huh
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:34 am

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In post 2479, Desperado wrote:lmao there was nothing obvious about a dunn lynch
I disagree. I think other than TB being a potential lynch for people, dunstraal and you were pretty high on the table.
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:35 am

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In post 2477, nydushermain wrote:
In post 2474, Realeo wrote:Oh no. It's already different topic! :mrgreen: We are no longer talk about that!

I'm saying that "TB is town cuz AH pushed on him" is a moot point due to White Flag Gambit. My mistake for not setting the context.
Ohhhh.... Unless AH's slot was dying before he replaced, I disagree because AH came into the game trying to push on TB right away. That was literally his opening post.
I agree that there is a higher probability of town.

However, I do not concur that it deserves 100%-going-to-be-town attitude--mainly that I just completed a game where it happened.
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:36 am

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In post 2482, nydushermain wrote:I disagree. I think other than TB being a potential lynch for people, dunstraal and you were pretty high on the table.
then you aren't reading very closely
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:36 am

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The speed of Dunnstral wagon gave me a pause, but when I reread Dunn iso and I cannot backtrace his dave scumread, I feel better.
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

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In post 2484, Desperado wrote:
In post 2482, nydushermain wrote:I disagree. I think other than TB being a potential lynch for people, dunstraal and you were pretty high on the table.
then you aren't reading very closely
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

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In post 2313, Superhans wrote:I know that I have a town read on Dunnstral (subject to change if I find Regfan's argument compelling) and I know that Desperado also has a town read on Dunnstral.

I don't know about D3 content, but from how Dunnstral played D1, D2, I don't see it being particularly scum.
In post 2353, Superhans wrote:
In post 2309, Regfan wrote:@Realeo - I don't agree with your SH hesitation in and think it's your fever talking. I do agree with TB ignoring the questions and just throwing a vote down in being a concern though. I really think Dunnstral is the correct lynch here and given todays my last day would appreciate you either voting with me or discussing this read with me in some more detail, happy to wait until you're better though (Get well soon!).

I thought about this more while I was out but lynching Dunnstral almost tells us Desperados alignment as well regardless of flip nearly.

Follow along;

Realeo is just always town here, this is a read that'll never change; (Cop report, his play etc.)
Alisea was Nyduss predecessor and she was the person that pushed (Quite strongly) on Desperado D1 in a way that scum wouldn't to a partner. Nydus-Desp = No.
Dave also pushed on Desperado D1 and there were some interactions between the two of them that point towards not being partners. Dave-Desp = No.
SuperHans & Desperado are just very very clearly non-aligned, everyone has also stated and agreed with this already pretty much. SH-Desp = No.
ThingBig has been pushed on throughout D1/D2/D3 by Desp in a way that scum can't afford to do so. TB-Desp = No.

That means the only scenario that Desperado can ever be scum in is with Dunnstral. Lynching Dunnstral either leads to a scum flip (Which I'm expecting and we'd want) or leads towards Desperado becoming as near as cleared as well upon a town flip in the worst case scenario.
In post 2295, Realeo wrote:Why are you scumreading Dunn and hard townreading nydus...when they are townreading ThinkBig...for the same reason?
Lots of different reasons? I don't consider their play all that similar at all & Nydus isn't entirely ruling out TB to the degree that Dunn is.

@Dunnstral RE; I think I am being very fair with the analysis; the reasoning behind TB being scum has changed throughout the game, sure others may have maintained the point about AH leading TB to be scum but they
did
provide other reasons which you never considered or addressed, that's where my issue with your read on him stems from. I don't buy the "I don't use activity is an indicator" in at all.
Buy this.
Will.vote Dunnstral

Count this post as my commitment to voting for him.

I
AM
ON THE
DUNNSTRAGON
PEOPLE

Not voting rn cos I'm on my phone and I dont want to accidentally lynch.
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

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look at it

just fucking look at it

thinkbig's trajectory on dunn is even more sparse

they aren't even trying to hide anymore
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:38 am

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but hey the ic said he's scum so who the fuck are we, right?

right?









right...????
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:40 am

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I'm more concerned about this
Buy this.
Which part?
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:29 am

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In post 2488, Desperado wrote:look at it

just fucking look at it

thinkbig's trajectory on dunn is even more sparse

they aren't even trying to hide anymore
TB doesn't have a trajectory.
I do. Dunnstral fits as your partner and his is not scum hunting. His flip flop to suddenly scum accusing me didn't help either.
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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:31 am

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@Realo I buy the logic that Dunnstral is Desperados only feasible scum partner, if he flips town Desperado is as good as Realo town wise.
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:35 am

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In post 2476, Realeo wrote:It's just now I have 3 priority

[ 1 ] Convince that nydus is wrong about Desperado scum (or the other way around)
[ 2 ] Convince that Desperado is wrong about SH (or the other way around)
[ 3 ] Convince that SH is wrong about Desperado (or the other way around)
I'm waiting for the flip before trying to convince you about Desperado.
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:45 am

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lmao hans i quoted your trajectory right there

you thought his play D1 and D2 were not likely scum but left room to be "convinced" by reg's case

then reg posted his case

and you were ~magically convinced~

and then you just omgused
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:56 am

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Close, but not quite.
In post 2312, Superhans wrote:okay i have had up until now a fairly strong town read on Dunnstral. I've been aware that you've been making an extended argument on Dunnstral but haven't actually had a chance to properly evaluate what your claims are or whether they are valid. I will do so now, (maybe it'll take a little while though cos I may need to ISO you and also ISO Dunnstral), but I'll let you know what I think about it by tonight or by tomorrow night at the latest.
Regfan made quite a few.posts on why he thought Dunn's should be lynched I read them and yes was influenced by the sinister black magic of persuasion.
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:12 am

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FINAL DAY 3 VC


Dunnstral ( 5 ) -
(Regfan, nydushermain, Superhans, ThinkBig, Realeo)

ThinkBig ( 2 ) -
(Desperado, davesaz)
davesaz ( 1 ) -
(Dunnstral)

Not Voting ( 0 )


Five to lynch.






Dunnstral
(Role Cop)
was lynched Day 3.


Night 3 begins now and ends in (expired on 2017-02-02 15:15:02).
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:12 pm

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Realeo
(Vanilla Townie)
was killed Night 3.

It is now Day 4.






DAY 4 VC 000


Not Voting ( 6 ) -
(Superhans, Desperado, davesaz, ThinkBig, Regfan, nydushermain)

Four to lynch.
(expired on 2017-02-15 02:17:02) remain until deadline.
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:13 pm

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dafuq
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:14 pm

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Vote: davesaz


scumDunn being that sticky with his townThink read makes absolutely no sense if they are partners

I also don't think Hans busses in that situation.
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