League of Legends: The New Thread

This forum is specifically for discussing non-Mafia games
(board, card, video, we're not picky)
.
Playing
such games should happen in the Mish Mash forum, of course.
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:36 am

Post by Papa Zito »

In post 2449, Ankamius wrote:In the current meta, this is very much false.

A lot of the game is decided by bot lane right now, and the hilariously ironic part is that it's not because bot lane itself is strong, but because bot lane is so weak that it's easy to create advantages for the rest of the team just by abusing the enemy bot lane. Jungle just happens to be the best role to take advantage of that.
did

did you just say I was wrong about the jungler having the most agency

then go on to describe how the jungler has the most agency


this is starting to feel like the Trump thread
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
User avatar
SleepyKrew
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
User avatar
User avatar
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
Snark Attack
Posts: 15746
Joined: April 27, 2011
Pronoun: he/him
Location: quack

Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:16 am

Post by SleepyKrew »

jungle
just happens
to be the role that roams the map the most
purely coincidence
To be clear: quack
Ankamius
Ankamius
Survivor
Ankamius
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21802
Joined: May 9, 2011
Location: Target Locked. Initiating Combat.

Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:47 am

Post by Ankamius »

We weren't talking about the same thing, Zito.

I agree that Jungle has the most agency out of every role overall. It doesn't have more agency than support in the case I specifically mentioned, since jungle right now is more about abusing the lanes to get yourself ahead so that you can carry, not about finding who can carry you and allowing them to carry you.
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:02 am

Post by Papa Zito »

Are the junglers taking all the kills in your games?
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
Ankamius
Ankamius
Survivor
Ankamius
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21802
Joined: May 9, 2011
Location: Target Locked. Initiating Combat.

Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:11 am

Post by Ankamius »

They don't even need to. The meta junglers get powerful fast enough that they can really start to snowball just off having ganks work at all. Lanes getting ahead aren't as impactful since jungle ganks are enough to cancel out the impact that it gives.
User avatar
Maestro
Maestro
They/Them/Any
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Maestro
They/Them/Any
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8366
Joined: April 18, 2012
Pronoun: They/Them/Any
Location: Chronically Online (EST)

Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:04 pm

Post by Maestro »

In post 2454, Ankamius wrote:They don't even need to. The meta junglers get powerful fast enough that they can really start to snowball just off having ganks work at all. Lanes getting ahead aren't as impactful since jungle ganks are enough to cancel out the impact that it gives.
In general, I've been getting this sense too. The Assassin/stealth changes and the ADC neutering, in general, all seem to combine to create a meta in which neither of those roles can snowball with any consistency, even when looking within a single game. I agree that Junglers decide the fate of the game nowadays.

Hopefully that makes sense.
User avatar
Psyche
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Psyche
he/they
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10069
Joined: April 28, 2011
Pronoun: he/they

Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:34 pm

Post by Psyche »

AP Sona or Support Item Sona?
youtube playlist extracter | donbot | game scraper | vca | setupsim | strategist | llm
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:52 pm

Post by Papa Zito »

Ank I dunno what you're arguing anymore so I'm gonna say ok and move on.


Depends on what your team comp is and what you're facing Psyche.
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
User avatar
RayFrost
RayFrost
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
RayFrost
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10769
Joined: August 2, 2009
Location: Japan
Contact:

Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:01 pm

Post by RayFrost »

I will never approve of ap sona
don't you feel silly now?
User avatar
zoraster
zoraster
He/Him
Disorganized Crime
User avatar
User avatar
zoraster
He/Him
Disorganized Crime
Disorganized Crime
Posts: 21680
Joined: June 10, 2008
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Belmont, CA

Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:22 am

Post by zoraster »

You don't give up a ton to go AP Sona, assuming you're still taking Windspeaker's. And there's no point of going Sona if you don't take Windspeaker's.
.
User avatar
RayFrost
RayFrost
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
RayFrost
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10769
Joined: August 2, 2009
Location: Japan
Contact:

Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:52 am

Post by RayFrost »

I consider losing a 600 health shield per allied champion and a 500 heal per allied champion from locket / redemption to be more significant than dealing an extra 600 damage from her full rotation when going ap (if it is even that much?).

And I am not doing the math for what windspeakers / redemption bonus healing/shielding passive do to the numbers above, those are rough estimates of base healing / shielding

I think that if redemption / locket were to be nerfed then it might be viable to go ap on sona, but at the moment redemption is insane and has excellent synergy with locket, so
don't you feel silly now?
Ankamius
Ankamius
Survivor
Ankamius
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21802
Joined: May 9, 2011
Location: Target Locked. Initiating Combat.

Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:15 am

Post by Ankamius »

A properly built/played AP Sona can one-shot squishies surprisingly early.
User avatar
Randomnamechange
Randomnamechange
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Randomnamechange
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6075
Joined: February 8, 2014

Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:04 am

Post by Randomnamechange »

In post 2447, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2437, Randomnamechange wrote:the issue with support is that it (a) doesn't do damage
In post 2446, Randomnamechange wrote:the issue isn't the damage/impact the supports have, it's the perception.
r u ok
it was poorly worded on my part. I meant what i said the second time with the first

also oh god ww rework is here
vonflare (21:40)
you suck randomidget
User avatar
Lycanfire
Lycanfire
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Lycanfire
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2380
Joined: June 4, 2016

Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:46 am

Post by Lycanfire »

i think lichbane/thunderlord sona gives a lot of damage over a midgame teamfight, but if you're playing it like syndra that's wrong. you still need to glue to your adc (or mid if they're trash) and provide your healshields. beyond that redemption is super strong, especially having the heal shielding multipliers going through windspeakers. i don't think there's any middle ground where you want to build straight AP.
User avatar
Andrius
Andrius
The Baker
User avatar
User avatar
Andrius
The Baker
The Baker
Posts: 12806
Joined: February 16, 2010

Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:34 pm

Post by Andrius »

Zito what are you doing I thought you were done.
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS LIFE
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
User avatar
KaleiÐoscøpe
KaleiÐoscøpe
=====[]
User avatar
User avatar
KaleiÐoscøpe
=====[]
=====[]
Posts: 2821
Joined: June 11, 2006
Location: Straight from the Asylum

Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:07 am

Post by KaleiÐoscøpe »

Just had a placement game that had 84 kills in 30 minutes.

Riven/Elise/Yasuo/Caitlyn/MF vs Fiora/Fiddle/Zed/Jinx/Taric

Got an S+ as Taric :lol:
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:55 am

Post by Papa Zito »

In post 2464, Andrius wrote:Zito what are you doing I thought you were done.
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS LIFE
o_O You thought I was done with what?
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
User avatar
MTD
MTD
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
MTD
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2033
Joined: November 27, 2013

Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:02 am

Post by MTD »

this life
still the same old MTD
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:45 am

Post by Papa Zito »

I must go my people need me?
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
User avatar
Andrius
Andrius
The Baker
User avatar
User avatar
Andrius
The Baker
The Baker
Posts: 12806
Joined: February 16, 2010

Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:24 pm

Post by Andrius »

In post 2466, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2464, Andrius wrote:Zito what are you doing I thought you were done.
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS LIFE
o_O You thought I was done with what?
After those ARAMs we played together a couple weeks ago you sounded so done with the game.
Or at least you've been soured by it but can't walk out because we all like abusive relationships?
Idk I keep entertaining coming back but I keep having to remind myself we can't make this great again.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
User avatar
Cabd
Cabd
QT Sniper
User avatar
User avatar
Cabd
QT Sniper
QT Sniper
Posts: 15494
Joined: February 3, 2013

Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:28 pm

Post by Cabd »

Finally got hextech Annie. She's amazing.
Show
Have retired for good; Life is too busy to have time or energy for mafia. It was fun~


And then, a Miracle, a Dance Game and a flight of fancy struck, one more game into the abyss
User avatar
JasonWazza
JasonWazza
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
JasonWazza
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8940
Joined: August 1, 2012

Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:29 pm

Post by JasonWazza »

So why the fuck is Edge of Night a 30 second cooldown?

May have blocked that from my mind in the patch notes, but playing talon and that is just disgusting.
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
User avatar
FakeGod
FakeGod
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
User avatar
User avatar
FakeGod
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
Posts: 9610
Joined: March 17, 2010
Location: Bad Player Jail
Contact:

Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:32 am

Post by FakeGod »

In post 2470, Cabd wrote:Finally got hextech Annie. She's amazing.
I WANT ONE

QQ
My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.
User avatar
Papa Zito
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Papa Zito
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9792
Joined: April 5, 2009
Location: Tejas
Contact:

Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:06 am

Post by Papa Zito »

In post 2469, Andrius wrote:
In post 2466, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2464, Andrius wrote:Zito what are you doing I thought you were done.
I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS LIFE
o_O You thought I was done with what?
After those ARAMs we played together a couple weeks ago you sounded so done with the game.
Or at least you've been soured by it but can't walk out because we all like abusive relationships?
Idk I keep entertaining coming back but I keep having to remind myself we can't make this great again.
I play an ARAM every once in a while for IP.

I refuse to play on Summoner's Rift without a 5-player premade group. I'm absolutely sick of the playerbase. ARAM isn't usually so bad because people go in with lowered expectations. I usually end up reporting someone anyway because inevitably someone has to be an asshole about something.
Kappa
Just Monika
Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
User avatar
FakeGod
FakeGod
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
User avatar
User avatar
FakeGod
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
Seven-Colored Puppeteer
Posts: 9610
Joined: March 17, 2010
Location: Bad Player Jail
Contact:

Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:59 am

Post by FakeGod »

My experiences on Rift have been rather pleasant ever since I picked up jg blitz.

I basically always get First Blood for my team, no exception. Then I post memes about how I have more kills than cs at 7 min mark.

Of course, I play almost exclusively normal blinds. Your mileage may vary in ranked games.
My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.
Post Reply

Return to “The Arcade”