Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[Vaxkiller]

i had taco bell tonight!

Roommate is bringing me a shit ton of taco bell for the night

How are you guys feeling this morning?

[Vaxkiller]

Like.
Would Vaxkiller + Secret Agent Jin + Aeronaut be plausible?
It kinda feels right to me, but I'm not sure by how much.

Pretty unlikely. Aero is rising on my scum list and dreal is falling.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

i had taco bell tonight!

Roommate is bringing me a shit ton of taco bell for the night

How are you guys feeling this morning?

We claim to the conclusion that you're most likely town. Otherwise, I'm pretty fucked at work

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The results of the jam session is that we have a townbloc of Ari, mastin, Gin, Nacho. We figured out the scum team of Aero, Mono, Jin. Everyone else in the middle we broke them down town hunting the entire way. I don't think we didn't do any player lol

My reads look more like:

{Nacho, Gin, Mastin, Ari}
{Cakez, Drealmer}
{Fate, Prism}
{BTD6, Vax}
{Aero, Mono, Jin}

[Vaxkiller]

One thing I'm looking at is Vaxkiller's Defcon iso and trying to compare it to this game, but I can't tell if it's similar or different, and how much so, and if it would be important, if it's actually relevant.

That's a pretty bad game to analyze. I felt like a little fish in a big pond. Everyone in that game knew each other and pretty much only wanted to play with each other.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Today's lynch is Jin, we Vig Mono and cop goes after Aero.

[Vaxkiller]

For whats its worth, I don't have a scum read on you, but it feels weird to have you call me town when you are at (L3? im still reading)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Jin (lurkscum)
Prism (forgot to move vote off)
BTD6 (Who we find suspect but townish enough to ignore)
Drealz (Who gave fuck all when he voted)

That's the wagon on me and it really means nothing

Also after you're doing reading the jam session, it pretty much locks in the townbloc completely no argument about it. Mastina summed it up perfectly that it's just not something scum can fake.

[Vaxkiller]

@nacho

You really don't think there is ANYTHING suspicious about claiming that at L3, as well as her acting like everyone should town read her for CLAIMING it?

I unvoted earlier because I understand it deserves a chance. I'm venting my suspicions and I'm a little less suspicious now.

Mastina seems like the type of person down for a gambit, I still dont think its the worst possible role to claim, and she could talk herself out of something going wrong with her role tomorrow easily.

I think that this progression looked good.
Trying to walk Vaxkiller off that ledge was trying to pull a cat away from a chicken sandwich they've already sunk their teeth into; I love how he backs off a little tiny bit but still grumbles about how he still thinks she could be scum.

Its just not worth arguing today about. I would argue against lynchying her today, but I need to be clear that she needs looked at much more closely tomorrow, and I think its pretty weird how much you are town reading her.

[Vaxkiller]

BTD6 is lynch bait. The past few games I've played with him, he keeps getting lynched and he has flipped town.

[Prism]

UNVOTE:

[camn]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 18

• Secret Agent Jin ---

  5 ( TheRealGin-N-Tonic, mastina, Fate, Nachomamma8, Aristophanes, )

  L- 2
  
  
  BTD6_MAKER ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  3 ( Secret Agent Jin, BTD6_MAKER, drealmerz7, Pine )
  L- 4
  
  
  Nachomamma8 --------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  2 ( SirCakez, Vaxkiller, )
  L- 5
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Monokuma -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  mastina ------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Aeronaut -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  1 ( Aeronaut, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  2 ( Monokuma, Prism, )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-01-22 18:00:00)

[Vaxkiller]

WARNING QUOTE WALL:

Spoiler:

Yawn. Entertain me, mortals.

Heyo let's all come along,
Let us gather to hear this song,
It is a tale told far and wide,
About the scumfuck known as Pine.

He came to violate our dear camn,
To ruin her carefully concocted plan,
But here the forces of good will fight,
To destroy the evil known as Pine.

Heyo, let's all sing this song,
And in the process dump our thoughts,
To ask what we see and why,
To see through deceit and lies.

I say his ally is the yellow mouse,
His treachery shouldn't be allowed,
We should not allow him or his kind,
So full of their deceit and lies.

Heyo, let's keep going strong,
Don't be tempted to go wrong,
We're all here with a purpose to find,
Those that were corrupted by Pine.

Among their ranks is Aristophanes,
Who'd be a great lynch on this day,
I say that ending would be fine,
As it would so be damaging to Pine.

Heyo, let's lynch the Aeronaut,
Or maybe Agent Jin if not,
I say this with a sigh,
Don't be corrupted by their lies.

We can be a complacent lot,
So don't let our dear town rot,
Please I beg you to hear my cry,
You've fallen victim to deceit and lies.

This tale should not end here,
And that is my greatest fear,
That soon I will not be alive,
And you'll fall victim to the Pine.

*snaps*

And? I'm pretty sure that's what most of this game thinks, since it's you know, common sense.
Yep, I'm the only one who thinks we shouldn't let a game designed to fuck with us fuck with us, obviously. That's why nacho is the leading wagon, right?

Mafia exercise time.

This is a really fun one, I promise you.

Who here can spot the problematic nature of these two statements being placed back-to-back?

There's something very glaringly obvious in here. I could tell you at any time, but I want you to think for a sec, stretch your minds, and see if you're capable of figuring it out for yourselves.

I'm fairly certain the second half of this post is sarcastic. Like, I'd bet on that. Did you not catch that or did I miss something else in my reading of it?

I'm aware of Aeronaut being sarcastic. It's what the sarcasm is saying which contributes to the problem. The sarcasm, translated into non-sarcastic language, says, "Everyone knows this, and nobody's listened".

In the second bit? No, it translates to please stop pushing Nacho using setup spec reasoning, because it was just making you silly and tunnely. And look, it worked. You're not quibbling with us about setup spec like you're in a newbie game and actually starting to play the game instead.

The entirety of #710 is pretty manufactured-sounding. It's mostly some very weak reasons for SRing Fate and then him justifying the switch from drealz with more silly bullshit.

Does anyone actually believe that Fate is town? All he has been doing is spreading miss-information, providing horrible reasons for his voting 418 432 Hes not even reading the thread 350 604!

Asks questions, but refuses to answer small legitimate ones asked of him: 577 578 579 580. All this translates to scum, and hes having a blast doing it. I'm having fun with this game too, but I can guarantee the scum are having even more fun.

Here Vax is absolutely appalled that anyone could think fate is town, what are we all doing?! Most of Vax's reasoning here is that Fate isn't reading the thread, and is therefore scum, which is at most anti-town.

Wait is camn allowed to post freely too or is that just flavor <_<

Worried?

Here he is commenting on a fluff post as if it's AI

Pine's tellign the truth here


Whichis exactly what I said

Nacho first round scum pick

Fate second round town pick

???

profit

You modified this a bit, and your using fate to defend yourself?

Nacho was a first round pick, Fate. You were a second round pick.

Hate to burst your bubble.

I know I said this before but post 628 reeks of someone thinking of a great joke, but has to wait for the right moment, when the blurt it out all the sudden and it sounds super rehearsed, like they have been waiting to say it for soooo long. As soon as you rolled scum you thought of this right?


VOTE: Fate
I still want dreal dead, once fate flips maybe more people will believe my dreal case.

Also, him asserting that 628 or really any of Fate's postings this game is

too rehearsed

and that's why fate is a really, really, silly accusation to make about fate, who I'm 90% sure just types letters and lets it autocorrect into words into this thread. Like, there's probably a lot of reasons that fate could be scum in this game, but rehearsed posts is not one of them.

I also dislike how he immediately feels the need to justify it, and when you think about it, this justification makes no sense; fate flipping scum would not make drealz seem any more scum worthy anyone, especially since fate has minimal interaction with him besides calling him scum. If anything, a drealz wagon could get marginally more traction if fate flipped town, but even then , nah. So this justification is shit, and this case is shit.

This post is really interesting. Before I give my thoughts, Aero, can you tell me why fate is scum to you?

As far as I've seen, he's not trying to solve the game, he's more just waffling around. Recently he's had a few more solidified reads on people, but even then it's minimal and not what I really thought I'd see from one of the top three people that mastina thinks should have been first round picks.

Having said that, most of the others who followed me onto this wagon did it for bad to no reasoning, so it's making me second guess it entirely.

As for why my vote's stayed the same, it's because I haven't finished reading unfortunately.

I was really bothered that you jumped off fate. TO me it kinda looked like you voted fate (your scum partner) at the beginning and then got stuck there because a wagon formed pretty quickly.
When asked you seem wishy washy about it. You are like: yeah fate could be scummy, but I dont want to lynch. This just seems like protecting to me (See above and below)

Regarding Fate, I'm currently very torn; Reading fate alone, no, I wouldn't say he's trying to solve the game. The one thing that does make me feel otherwise is his whole interaction with Nacho later on, where he says that a lot of his "scumreading" of nacho was just him trying to make nacho awkward and pressured; I honestly sort of believe that, strangely, because I usually don't believe that kind of thing. If that's true, Fate's at least doing something. Besides that, though, most of it is kind of sub-par from what he's supposedly supposed to be capable of, according to Mastina and from what I've heard in the GOAT thread.

The thing that gives me pause though is that I really hate the pushes on him. Mono's push on him was based originally on interactions with pine, and the fact that they're assuming that Fate really felt like he needed interactions with Pine, which makes zero sense from any perspective. Your push doesn't make any sense to me either, that fate of all people in this game had artificial-sounding-posting syndrome; I don't actually know Fate and haven't played with him, but his behavior in this game is lot of things that aren't that. Ari's vote was/is still there from the pisskop-times so that's useless.

That stuff worries me enough that I don't want to lynch Fate today, either. This has been a weird game in that there haven't been too many real wagons going on, which makes me feel like some of the people poorly pushing what we do have are just scum who are looking for a place to rest their vote until the day's over.

These following posts makes me hesitate however.

prod dodge, I vehemently oppose a mastina lynch still and will kill anyone not named Nacho, Aeronaut, or Gin and tonic


highly prefer monokuma, vaxkiller, aristo,

The three people you won't kill kind of intrigues me, since you were scumreading Gin for like a long time, and as far as I go, you haven't mentioned your thoughts on me once, and haven't really done much interacting with me. Why the sudden TR, or at least will to keep me around?

I wasnt scumreading Gin for a long time this misconception was already cleared up

Yes Aero!town is a new read given you actually posting and some of mastinas vca

It's a ballzy move for scum!aero to post the above to scum!fate and then back, so not im not so sure (about the association)

Can I ask why you chose those specific people to talk about those people respectively?

Looking for associations. Also some people have expressed thier thoughts on one or the other and I wanted to make sure were still true, or get reasons for them not being so.
Not everyone answered.

[Vaxkiller]

Voting secret agent jin is about the least town thing you can do at the moment. WTF is anyone even voting him? You are just handing scum an easy lynch that they wont ever have to explain thier vote on because he is MIA for 3 days.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Vax, read the town Jam session. We're confident in literally everyone and even discussed SAJ's slot and what we found townie/scummy.

It's the worthy lynch actually.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

There is literally no harm in lynching SAJ. It's actually one of, if not thee most important list because we were able to solve to a T that the game is Aero, Jin, Mono.

WE HAVE TO KNOW IF THESE ARE WRONG.

[Vaxkiller]

I did read the Jam session. You are just going to assume that everyone there "figuring" stuff out is town and that the game is solved?

There were some interesting bits, but Jin is an AWFUL lynch

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Yeah no, we went into the intent of posts to see what we thought was the true motivations behind it.

You're being a pain in the ass for no reason as there is literally no reason SAJ should not be the lynch. No seriously, I brought this up early but people HATE lurker lynches for no reason and it's stupid. It's a bad slot my guy and we both know it. So vote it up

[Vaxkiller]

Yeah no, we went into the intent of posts to see what we thought was the true motivations behind it.

Great! Now we are getting somewhere. Explain to me fates motivation on all his posts, and when you cant come over to the fate wagon.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

My guy. If Jin isn't scum I will focus all my attention onto Fate, otherwise I'm sorry.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

My scum team pick is Aero, Jin, Mono. Like I said before, we figured out this as the team and with Jin gone, we either know we are on the right path or wrong and can work up the list. It's the best lynch my guy please understand

[Vaxkiller]

Don't disappoint camn

[Vaxkiller]

Also, not your guy, buddy.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

What's wrong with or plan seriously?

[Aeronaut]

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