Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

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Vote Count 1.35

ConManMick -

[1] PeregrineV

drealmerz7 -

[0]

Transcend -

[0]

Pine -

[0]

Alisae -

[0]

Jaack -

[0]

Elena Fisher -

[0]

[L-3]

BigYoshiFan -

[7] Fro99er, Alisae, ironstove, drealmerz7, gerryoat, Pepchoninga, kuror0

Manuel87 -

[0]

PeregrineV -

[0]

Cloudkicker -

[0]

Fro99er -

[0]

Cabd -

[0]

ironstove -

[1] Pine

kuror0 -

[0]

Pepchoninga -

[3] Manuel87, Elena Fisher, Transcend

Clumsy -

[1] Jaack

gerryoat -

[1] ConManMick

Not Voting -

Cabd, BigYoshiFan, Clumsy, Cloudkicker

Mod Notes –

BigYoshiFan is V/LA until 21 January.

With 18 Alive, It Takes 10 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends In (expired on 2017-01-30 01:24:08).

[BigYoshiFan]

Do we really need a FULL-claim?

[Fro99er]

Do we really need a FULL-claim?

bud, that's up to you. but if you're going to be V/LA for the most part until Saturday then at least give us enough to be sure we don't want to lynch you if you really are town.

[Pepchoninga]

Let's vote yoshi...

But breaking that record seems tempting too.

Read the thread please. He's already effectively at L-1

I do read the thread.

[BigYoshiFan]

Can that be in the form of reads or does it have to be a more in-depth claim?
That V/LA was a precautionary, but I'll sit here and read everything and offer my reads if that is what you want.

[Pepchoninga]

Can that be in the form of reads or does it have to be a more in-depth claim?
That V/LA was a precautionary, but I'll sit here and read everything and offer my reads if that is what you want.

Why you so hesitant to claim? A dumb mason claim worked, so what?

[BigYoshiFan]

Can that be in the form of reads or does it have to be a more in-depth claim?
That V/LA was a precautionary, but I'll sit here and read everything and offer my reads if that is what you want.

Why you so hesitant to claim? A dumb mason claim worked, so what?

Stop rolefishing. I'll catch up now.

[Clumsy]

Can that be in the form of reads or does it have to be a more in-depth claim?
That V/LA was a precautionary, but I'll sit here and read everything and offer my reads if that is what you want.

Why you so hesitant to claim? A dumb mason claim worked, so what?

:facepalm:

[Cabd]

Look, I need to take some more time.
I'm feeling pressured and that doesn't result in good play from me.
Looking over that read I made... it looks like shit, I admit it. I'm still not objecting to my Pine TR however.
There is very little doubt in my mind that fro99er is also town.
I'll probably be here Wednesday and intermittently from thereafter until the weekend.

Don't take this opportunity to say I'm being dramatic or faking this either. If you think I'm scum, lynch me.

Sigh... PR. More-specific?

These two posts don't match; he's extending time while he thinks of his fakeclaim. Lynch with extreme prejudice, fuck the catchup.

VOTE: yoshi

[Clumsy]

Yoshi, you're at L-2. I think there's at least 2 others that haven't voted for you yet that said they would. I think we need a claim from you.

[Pine]

I didn't want sheep. I wanted to see how other people reacted to the claim, which I (probably) still haven't read yet.

so what do you make of Pine's comment about reasons to doubt the claim

Did he elaborate on reasons why?

Did he elaborate on reasons why?

no, but I want your reaction to his reaction.

you've barely mentioned pine all D1 and it's pinging my radar.

I did actually elaborate on why. It's here:

Christ, I leave for a few hours and fourteen pages. I can't keep up with this. Blatantly skimming at this point.

but I have reason to question the Masons.

This

Does not jive with

UNVOTE: Clumsy
I have reason to believe him.

This.

At minimum one of these two is scum.

The difference is, I fully intended to explain myself as soon as I got a straight answer, which is here:

Guys, I have little time today. I will do what I can, but let me point this out, I did not intend to soft-claim mason. I am not clumsy's mason.

I asked for a straight answer because when people soft-claim Masons (or appear to) I immediately ISO them and look for inconsistencies, such as one expressing suspicion for the other or voting them. I found such inconsistencies with Yoshi, and hence demanded a hard answer. Inconsistencies documented below:

Spoiler: Not Masons

Idc as long as he's not at L-1 where someone can lolhammer him.
I like everyone on the wagon except Clumsy, but that could easily change when he responds tomorrow.

VOTE: clumsy
Until he responds AND I'm satisfied with his response.

I'm indifferent between the two now. There's been some pretty convincingly incriminating things said for clumsy that entice me.

No, this is hammer.
VOTE: clumsy

With Yoshi declaring the apparent softclaim invalid, the matter is moot and resolved.

I can't take the pace. Like I said, I'll re-evaluate D2, but I'm not even skimming at this point. This only stood out because it was recent and about me.

[Fro99er]

Pine ... I said you didn't elaborate in post 2598 and you explained on 2898. So at the time I said that, I was correct. You hadn't elaborated.

We all saw you elaborate in 2898

[BigYoshiFan]

For town's-sake I think it would be very harmful for me to claim. You all were willing to wait until Saturday for me. Why does it need to go down right now?

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm attempting to catch up right now, let me finish.

[Pine]

Pine ... I said you didn't elaborate in post 2598 and you explained on 2898. So at the time I said that, I was correct. You hadn't elaborated.

We all saw you elaborate in 2898

Ugh fine. This is a function of not being able to keep track of things. Ignore me.

[Clumsy]

Look, I need to take some more time.
I'm feeling pressured and that doesn't result in good play from me.
Looking over that read I made... it looks like shit, I admit it. I'm still not objecting to my Pine TR however.
There is very little doubt in my mind that fro99er is also town.
I'll probably be here Wednesday and intermittently from thereafter until the weekend.

Don't take this opportunity to say I'm being dramatic or faking this either. If you think I'm scum, lynch me.

The thing is, you posted this earlier, which people have pointed out. It goes against you saying that you have an important role now, which is cause for concern.

[BigYoshiFan]

I never intended to be lynched without a fight. The way I phrased that was supposed to give the message: Play mafia, not me.

[Cabd]

In the words of the great DGB: Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

[gerryoat]

The way you phrased it made it sound like you arent PR at all. SO you claiming PR here sounds bad

[gerryoat]

I usually dont lynch PR claims day 1, but the way he's tried to claim PR has been really bad

[Alisae]

Cabd I dunno if I agree if he is thinking about his fake claim. He legit had a few irl days to do so and I think he knew that this wagon was going to get to L-2 or L-1 eventually.

[Cabd]

Nah; he prolly has a scum PR and is waffling about claiming it or claiming something else. "I'll claim VT" "Wait if I claim VT i can get tracked/watched and then they'll know I'm scum"

You severely over-estimate the ability of people to think their fakeclaims ahead.

[Clumsy]

Cabd, what are your other reads?

[gerryoat]

cabd, give us your reads list. how far are you in catching up

[Fro99er]

Yoshi says he's catching up, but he's clearly refreshing the page here and just talking to his scumbuddies in daychat. That's why he keeps responding here in response to everyone else.