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Zachstralkita · Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Dunnstral wrote:that's a joke, I'll thoroughly dismantle zach's crusade later. making a mental note

Want to talk about debi?

You should read what I said about you before "dismantling" anything

Dunnstral · Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:26 pm

In post 2345, Zachstralkita wrote:Then we have Dunn who chooses whether he wants to scum or town read me at the start of every game we play and tailors his play accordingly. Dunn thinks luxuries like "explaining your reads when they haven't been explained past surface level" are for men of a lower caliber than him, and responds with confusion and a scumread when you ask him to do so. I didn't ask him for further explanation on anything because I knew I wouldn't get it and I'm not going to get it now. I cannot engage like that.

So you admit you never asked but decide to dismiss me anyway? scummy

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:29 pm

Nope I asked you about the stuff that I asked you about I just didn't ask you about the things that came after that when the correct move would have been to do so

ISO · Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:29 pm

In post 2303, Wraith wrote:Continuing from page 72

Spoiler: Notes
* Wow Echo's #1775 is serious crap. Alisae never has a case on anyone. And coming from ECHO at this point it's just super-hypocritical
* I don't know why talk of lynching Slick has gone out the window at this point.
* dreal is getting better. Actually trying to contribute rather than make excuses for not contributing. Nevertheless, I'm suddenly struck by a theory I had as I went to bed last night on why Creature is playing the way he is, assuming he is town. Not going to say it out loud but I think I have to re-evaluate my read on Creature. I think he's back in the soft townread category. This is good sequence I think it cleared up my reads on a couple players I was having trouble pinning down.
* Titus sheeping Creature of all players is a little odd IMO
* I think I agree with Titus in #1830. Problem is, it's hard to read players based on how they in turn read dreal. It's really easy to scumread dreal for things that (to me at least) seem like normal dreal things
* #1831 JFC dreal. I start townreading you and you say something like that.
* #1832 Townreading Titus. Astonishing how she can replace in like that and post in such a way that I can immediately get a read on her
* #1833 I feel like I missed something on why Zach objects strongly to a Slick lynch
* #1835 and now Titus's sheeping of Creature is even more baffling
* Okay dreal's play just swings wildly between "scummy-ass garbage" and "legit has a point I think" and as a result I'm completely uncomfortable lynching him D1 this game. He just has a naturally-scummy and abrasive playstyle and I think it's sending peoples' radars completely haywire already.
* #1856 makes me think Zach and I are kindred spirits in this regard. For being confirmed town RB seems awfully preoccupied with throwing his
penis
weight around rather than actually trying to scumhunt
* Posts #1865 and #1867 are good examples of why drealmerz is a really bad lynch for the day. Uzi and HS are players I've been getting soft scum vibes from for a while, but even they are coming up with fair points against drealmerz. He's one of those players where it's easy to find him scummy and equally easy to dodge blame if you were on the wagon and he flips town, simply because he's so naturally scummy it's easy to come up with legitimate reasons to lynch him, motives being genuine or not.
* #1874 Fucking. Kill. This. Shit.
* #1897 yet more examples of why drealmerz is actually a shit lynch, not (necessarily) a scum lynch. He does this a lot. He's been doing this practically the entire game so far!
* Okay #1901 is a good post and seems genuine. Even if it's in response to dreal. With a number of new players dipping into my scumreads HS might be getting bumped up to Murky.
* #1908 wow. Not trying to offend people personally, but the huge amount of lurkers who come out to vote the prevailing wagon for shallow or non-existent reasons is just a cancer on this game.
* I can get behind Zach's reasoning in #1945. His bolded there is pretty fucking spot on IMO
* #1965 Fucking hell and I was just starting to get comfortable with Dunn
* #1966 I fucking hate talk like this. Play your damn wincon.
* #1983 oh please this is absolutely fucking hypocritical and it's disgusting
* #1992 thank you a goodpost by Dunn to make up for the last shit one. Even if one of his four scum mentioned is Zach which is shit.
* #2008 I get it now, Dunn. Bad company.
* #2031 jeremiahjohnsonnod.gif
* Ircher reading Alisae as lynchbait but not dreal is rather fucking baffling

Up to page 83 now.

Spoiler: Reads By Category
Townread

rb
Gin
texcat
Ircher
Zach

Soft Townread

Creature
Dunnstral
GE/Titus
All Alone

Neutral/Murky

Kyouko
Debi
Pine
HS
drealmerz

Soft Scumread

Uzi
Echo

Scumread

Slick
Alisae

Since Nadroj's game finished --- The difference between drealm and alisae is that alisae feels genuine and the questionable stuff from his iso seem more subconscious.

Drealm is however on purposely playing like Low-Hanging Fruit (he admittted such in fact).

Thats a huge difference.

ISO · Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:31 pm

In post 2310, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2281, Creature wrote:ssbm_Kyouko posts little as scum, but posts a bit more as town.

Titus posts a lot lot more as town.
STOP with these generalizations

everyone else, STOP LISTENING to these generalizations

they arent generalization when:

1) They are very specific yet broad enough to not be too specific
2) They are backable by facts
3) They concern specific players

ISO · Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:36 pm

In post 2329, Debi wrote:
In post 2279, Wraith wrote:15. Debi - MURKY. Lurking.
It isn't that I am trying to Lurk, nor wanting to, I'm just having serious problems picking up anything to say for many reasons. There are so many posts going on in an hour or so, it is really really hard to keep up with it, I come back from college or from a nap, and there are 8 or so more pages, which completely contradict everything that person has done up till then. Also the spamming really doesn't help, especially not from drealmerz. I can't keep up with it, I'm struggling telling what is a joke, an argument, or stupidity. Also I prefer doing larger posts, and I genuinely can't do it at the speed of which this game is going. Of course I can on the odd, when something is obvious and stands out, however the spamming and useless posts for the sake of posting really don't help it. Like what is the point in asking somebody about their avatar and if they do their own GFXing?

Also somebody asked me why I switched votes from Gin to Drealmerz. At the moment, these are my strong Scum reads:
Gin
Drealmerz
Alisae
Zach

I'll happily change my vote to any of them, if I can come up with a more convincing argument against them. So I thought Gin was the easiest to get lynched a while ago, but it then changed to Drealmerz. With evidence I'm happy to change my vote to any of the 4.

In post 2331, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2329, Debi wrote:So I thought Gin was the easiest to get lynched a while ago, but it then changed to Drealmerz. With evidence I'm happy to change my vote to any of the 4.
This sentence makes me uncomfortable

Nice cherry-pick.

In context, it makes more sense -- debi scumred both but wanted be on the wagon more likely to go through.

ISO · Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 pm

In post 2336, drealmerz7 wrote:evidence

you'll change your vote with evidence, debi?

FUCKING EVIDENCE?!?!

yes, EVIDENCE.

Subjective crap is useless.

ISO · Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 pm

(actually, I'm prob. reading that out of context....)

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:38 pm

In post 2354, Ircher wrote:
In post 2310, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2281, Creature wrote:ssbm_Kyouko posts little as scum, but posts a bit more as town.

Titus posts a lot lot more as town.
STOP with these generalizations

everyone else, STOP LISTENING to these generalizations
they arent generalization when:

1) They are very specific yet broad enough to not be too specific
2) They are backable by facts
3) They concern specific players

WRONG

Alisae · Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:39 pm

In post 2358, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2354, Ircher wrote:
In post 2310, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2281, Creature wrote:ssbm_Kyouko posts little as scum, but posts a bit more as town.

Titus posts a lot lot more as town.
STOP with these generalizations

everyone else, STOP LISTENING to these generalizations
they arent generalization when:

1) They are very specific yet broad enough to not be too specific
2) They are backable by facts
3) They concern specific players

WRONG

fake frustration

Titus · Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 2358, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2354, Ircher wrote:
In post 2310, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2281, Creature wrote:ssbm_Kyouko posts little as scum, but posts a bit more as town.

Titus posts a lot lot more as town.
STOP with these generalizations

everyone else, STOP LISTENING to these generalizations
they arent generalization when:

1) They are very specific yet broad enough to not be too specific
2) They are backable by facts
3) They concern specific players

WRONG

Great, who cares about the fucking label? I care more that we have 2400 fucking posts and cannot agree on a fucking lynch wagon.

Alisae · Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:27 pm

Titus still want explanations on why me or AA are scum and your reads in general.

Titus · Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:29 pm

In post 2361, Alisae wrote:Titus still want explanations on why me or AA are scum and your reads in general.

I am getting to it, but just catching up first. Please slow down your rate of posting.

Titus · Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:37 pm

Spoiler: VoteCounts

rb was wagoned to where he was revealed.
Alisae was the counter, which innately makes me curious at this point of the game.
All Alone springs up as a counter to Alisae, the same way rb did. If All Alone is town, I would be

on EV. Alisae v All Alone isn't scum scum

SlickDilliger gets a fast wagon, and a fast counter with Drealmerz.

These bounce back and forth will tell a story of the game right now.

I want these flips to tell me why people are doing what they are doing.

Alisae · Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:42 pm

that VCA is a waste of time and energy

SCUMHUNT, please, titus

Titus · Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:44 pm

In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.

And why do you think that is a problem?

P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).

Alisae · Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:46 pm

In post 2366, Titus wrote:
In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.
And why do you think that is a problem?

P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).

Because you're saying I am the counterwagon to rb when it's the other way around. Meaning you're misrepresenting events.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:47 pm

In post 2366, Titus wrote:
In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.
And why do you think that is a problem?

P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).

who said anything about acting like me?

I'm talking about playing the game

you're playing some other game that you like because you like numbers and patterns or something

that's not scumhunting

Titus · Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:47 pm

In post 2367, Alisae wrote:
In post 2366, Titus wrote:
In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.
And why do you think that is a problem?

P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).
Because you're saying I am the counterwagon to rb when it's the other way around. Meaning you're misrepresenting events.

No. I use counterwagon not as a chronology but as an option. Town could vote either you or rb.

Now, who all was voting you when you hit L minus 1.

Alisae · Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:49 pm

Like Titus my wagon started first.
Like around the the time I voted wraith (239)
rb started to push me and gin and then my wagon goes up to L-1 within a couple pages.

pedit: Oh okay. Hold up let me dig that information.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:50 pm

dreal you haven't smoked yet this game, have you

Your entire attitude has been Ann GRRRRR but more than is reasonably expected thus it ends up being overbearing and you get written off as scummy by people then respond with more Ann GRRRRRRR

It hurts me to see

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 2371, Zachstralkita wrote:dreal you haven't smoked yet this game, have you

Your entire attitude has been Ann GRRRRR but more than is reasonably expected thus it ends up being overbearing and you get written off as scummy by people then respond with more Ann GRRRRRRR

It hurts me to see

I play different styles so I can't be meta-read

deal with it

and pass me the bong

Titus · Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 2368, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2366, Titus wrote:
In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.

My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.
And why do you think that is a problem?

P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).
who said anything about acting like me?

I'm talking about playing the game

you're playing some other game that you like because you like numbers and patterns or something

that's not scumhunting

I'm a social psychologist and lawyer. I'm all about finding out about people by what they value. That's really all scumhunting is. Who values whom and why. Whether it's empirical data or reactions or something else, it all is valid. There is no one true scumhunting.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:54 pm

plus, it's D1 gone on too long

plus, I'm being wagoned for shit-reasons

plus, lots of bad play