Purple is not red. This means SirCakez and Maxous were not on the same alignment!
Max is 3p with an unknown wincon. My guess, since he was vague about it, was that he wins if all scum are dead, or if scum win. That would make the most sense.
Argue if he knew the scumteam as part of his role.
Explain how Nahdia's block of N4 on Maxous fails if Maxous is not ascetic.
If we all agree amaxous was an ascetic roleblocker Gio lives. We just have to wait for the bolder question to come back.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I will not agree to scum making up literal bullshit in order to mislynch me.
Maxous was an ascetic. SirCakez was only converted N5 and JaeReed is a VT and Nahdia is a confirmed not killer.
These are facts.
Why are you trusting scum?
I am not.
I am saying that there is no way SirCakez would leave Maxous out to dry if he knew Maxous was scum.
Therefore the only possibility is SirCakez and he were of differing alignments D4.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I thought we did, but if someone is trying to base EVERY SINGLE POST AND CONCLUSION on what they THINK is right, I gets arguey.
Stop that. The instant I am mislynched they are confirmed more than stone.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I thought we did, but if someone is trying to base EVERY SINGLE POST AND CONCLUSION on what they THINK is right, I gets arguey.
That is what you are doing to frame me.
I am using facts to prove you wrong one I am waiting on Skull's reply to shove that smugness down your throat.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10401, MathBlade wrote:Explain how Nahdia's block of N4 on Maxous fails if Maxous is not ascetic.
She was probably rolebloecked when she targeted Max. His ability does that to those who target him.
In post 10401, MathBlade wrote:If we all agree amaxous was an ascetic roleblocker Gio lives. We just have to wait for the bolder question to come back.
You never answered the question about why Gio cannot be fakeclaiming.
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I will not agree to scum making up literal bullshit in order to mislynch me.
Maxous was an ascetic. SirCakez was only converted N5 and JaeReed is a VT and Nahdia is a confirmed not killer.
These are facts.
Why are you trusting scum?
I am not.
I am saying that there is no way SirCakez would leave Maxous out to dry if he knew Maxous was scum.
Therefore the only possibility is SirCakez and he were of differing alignments D4.
In post 10337, MathBlade wrote:This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. An Ascetic role cannot be targeted by anything other than a kill. A role attempting to target an Ascetic should be seen doing so by Trackers and Motion Detectors. Investigative roles (Cops, Role Cops, Watchers, etc) should receive "no result" if attempting to investigate an Ascetic role.
Untargetable meaning Gio doesn't die
More precisely
, Ascetic
reflexively Roleblocks
all actions taken against them except kills.
Read the normal modifier section.
Gio can't fucking target Maxous and therefore weak would not trigger.
@mod: Assume a weak follower submits an action to a nonTown ascetic what is the result the weak follower would receive and would they live?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I will not agree to scum making up literal bullshit in order to mislynch me.
Maxous was an ascetic. SirCakez was only converted N5 and JaeReed is a VT and Nahdia is a confirmed not killer.
These are facts.
Why are you trusting scum?
I am not.
I am saying that there is no way SirCakez would leave Maxous out to dry if he knew Maxous was scum.
Therefore the only possibility is SirCakez and he were of differing alignments D4.
It's confirmed they are not the same alignment.
Correct. So if SirCakez knew Maxous was scum even if they had a different alignment why say he was roleblocked? Therefore SirCakez couldn't know. Ergo he wasnt culted and was only created post N5.
Same applies to Gio which means Gio had to be Town on D2 when he claimed funkiness with results.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10326, MathBlade wrote:Instead of scumhunting you and Ank make up a theory out of thin air.
First it is that I am a variant Godfather.
Then it is a redirector despite every single one of Narna's checks being right but Town derp.
Despite having a way to instantly kill Gio when he would have followed me but instead a redirector...
Please. That is bullshit.
Just stop. You are inventing ways to lynch me because you don't like me versus actually hunting. It is sad.
I have nothing to do with the redirector theory. I am an advocator of non-standard roles being the case.
They plan a mislynch on Gio then a mislynch on me.
Ank only hammers and votes Town. This is shit. Utter bullshit.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10360, MathBlade wrote:Otherwise SirCakez stays silent and then we have "proof" Nahdia's Jailkeep works.
So the only way Gio is scum is if he was converted on N5. Not before which means Maxous was ascetic.
I don't care if her jailkeep works.
I care she can't kill. Making her not scum.
Which after my mislynch Nahdia is confirmed not to have killed CFJ.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
I'll keep cutting through the bullshit claim that I can't vote scum, then.
That only applies if you wait for a VC after each vote. Sort of like when yoshi "hammered" so far you haven't proven shit.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10393, Nahdia wrote:you're all arguing things that, with the assortment of facts we have, could potentially be wrong or right, but we can't know. but you're acting like we can know. agree to disagree and move on please.
I will not agree to scum making up literal bullshit in order to mislynch me.
Maxous was an ascetic. SirCakez was only converted N5 and JaeReed is a VT and Nahdia is a confirmed not killer.
These are facts.
Why are you trusting scum?
I am not.
I am saying that there is no way SirCakez would leave Maxous out to dry if he knew Maxous was scum.
Therefore the only possibility is SirCakez and he were of differing alignments D4.
What does that have to do with Maxous being an ascetic or not?
It also means since Gio claimed D2 funkiness with results that if Gio knew Maxous was scum and was in communication with him (the prevailing theory) why reveal Maxous's possible asceticness D2?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 10360, MathBlade wrote:Otherwise SirCakez stays silent and then we have "proof" Nahdia's Jailkeep works.
So the only way Gio is scum is if he was converted on N5. Not before which means Maxous was ascetic.
I don't care if her jailkeep works.
I care she can't kill. Making her not scum.
Which after my mislynch Nahdia is confirmed not to have killed CFJ.
no see i could be a special magic ninja that shows as visiting someone other than who i kill.
That would go against moderator intentionally lying and a tracker wouldn't work then.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Yoshi is either scum turned N5 like Maxous who discharged his thing to protect new cult buddies or just Town. Strongly suspect the latter.
JaeReed is confirmed town after my mislynch.
Nahdia barring scum stupidity is the kill tonight after being confirmed not killer and is a JK.
The only thing that can be pushed without likely hitting scum is me and Gio together.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade