Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

Ankamius · Post Post #10300 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:35 pm

You never actually addressed why Giovanni's clears should be trusted.

MathBlade · Post Post #10301 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:40 pm

In post 10300, Ankamius wrote:You never actually addressed why Giovanni's clears should be trusted.

You never addressed why they can't other than "Godfather"

Proof is in your court and every single clear so far has turned true.

Almost50 · Post Post #10302 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:06 pm

In post 10299, MathBlade wrote:I think Ank is SK and PV+A50 (maybe one maybe both) are the scums.

Yes. We are Cakez scum p's but he opted to give YOU the toys over either of us. You know Cakez loves to do good even when he draws the villain.

JaeReed · Post Post #10303 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:09 pm

Don't forget Cakey trying to get you lynched!!! dat scum theatre amirite?

JaeReed · Post Post #10304 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:12 pm

Anyway, right now I think MathBlade is the only logical lynch for today. I do not believe that they honestly can't understand any of the arguments being presented and are genuinely misinterpreting it. I think it's a scum tactic in order to try to obfuscate the issue at this point.

This is also why I'd rather it be done sooner rather than later.

MathBlade · Post Post #10305 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:17 pm

In post 10302, Almost50 wrote:
In post 10299, MathBlade wrote:I think Ank is SK and PV+A50 (maybe one maybe both) are the scums.
Yes. We are Cakez scum p's but he opted to give YOU the toys over either of us. You know Cakez loves to do good even when he draws the villain.

He was forced. I forced him.

You will see. Then you will lynch Ank tomorrow.

Tinfoil

Nahdia culted JaeReed. Don't see a world where JaeReed goes back on calling me Town.

So without tinfoil it is Ank/PV/A50 scum in there.
Tinfoil Nahdia culted JaeReed Ank killer.

Either way Ank needs rope.

MathBlade · Post Post #10306 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:20 pm

Consider those my last reads as probably will be hammered since there really isn't much to say against a bullshit made up Godfather claim and JaeReed just calling me dense for no apparent reason. I am AFK most of tomorrow good night.

Almost50 · Post Post #10307 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:34 pm

In post 10305, MathBlade wrote:So without tinfoil it is Ank/PV/A50 scum in there.
Tinfoil Nahdia culted JaeReed Ank killer.

How about Yoshi and Gio? Don't you want to throw some dirt on them too?? I mean, everyone in the game is scum but you, right? And seeing as they're called the GASTER FOLLOWERS I'm really impressed your tinfoil includes a recruiter who is NOT Gaster!! Now that's not moon-logic or anything like that.

Nahdia · Post Post #10308 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:51 pm

Can someone give me a tl;dr

Nahdia · Post Post #10309 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:53 am

Skullduggery · Post Post #10310 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:39 am

Day 8, Vote Count #6

Current Vote Count:

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(3)

MathBlade -- Almost50, JaeReed, BigYoshiFan

(1)

PeregrineV -- Ankamius

(0)

Nahdia

(1)

Ankamius -- MathBlade

(0)

BigYoshiFan

(1)

Almost50 -- Nahdia

(0)

JaeReed

Not Voting:

Giovanni il Pellegrino, PeregrineV

With 8 votes available, it takes 5 votes to hammer.

BigYoshiFan is V/LA until 1/12.
Giovanni il Pellegrino is V/LA until 1/12.

Day 8 Will End on Saturday, January 21st, at 9 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2017-01-21 21:00:00)

Nahdia · Post Post #10311 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:46 am

VOTE: giovanni

i think maxous would cult this guy probably.

PeregrineV · Post Post #10312 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:49 am

In post 10289, Almost50 wrote:
In post 10280, Giovanni il Pellegrino wrote:So, can you actually explain this in more detail? Have I missed something, or this was something you haven't accounted for in detail?
Um.. I believe a GF CAN be tracked. They just do not show as Scum to Cops, but they're not to be confused with Ninja (although a variation of the role does exist, but I have never seen it actually being used).

So, if you're proposing a GF status the you WOULD get a Tracker/Follower result on your target.

However, there's a lot of the mechanics of this game that are being obscured (and probably for a good reason, as is the case in every Skull modded game). Take Maxous for instance, did his flip mention "Ascetic"? I don't think it did. We're just guessing he was.

My fear is we've been relying too much on mechanics and speculation that we are not actually scum hunting based on content. SirCakez floated for too long based on his claimed role, which WAS his true role. It wasn't TOWN aligned though.

Furthermore, Nahdia confirming Math, and Math confirming Nahdia means absolutely nothing to me, as I'm proposing they're BOTH scum together. I want to lynch Math today and Nahdia tomorrow. Now if the game doesn't end by then we can assume Ank is an SK (the one Math has been hunting down for long because, you know.. scum will always fear the SK messing things for them) and we can lynch him then, but ONLY then. Right now probably wants a red flip just as much as we do (and that is IF he is a Serial Killer to begin with).

The role of Godfather exists to return false positives to cops.
The modifier of weak means "target scum and you die".
Does a weak role targeting a Godfather die?
If it's weak, yes, because the godfather is STILL mafia. Not Town, mafia.
That being said

,

Giov

,

it isn't a quesiton of "are your results suspect", it is "You are suspect."

PeregrineV · Post Post #10313 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:52 am

In post 10301, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10300, Ankamius wrote:You never actually addressed why Giovanni's clears should be trusted.
You never addressed why they can't other than "Godfather"

Proof is in your court and every single clear so far has turned true.

Gio could be lying scum.

True or false, Math?

PeregrineV · Post Post #10314 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:58 am

Yeah....

Vote: Giovanni il Pellegrino

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #10315 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:18 am

In post 10283, Ankamius wrote:Jesus fucking christ.

Don't assume that Godfather is the most standard version. It has already been
proven
that Miller doesn't, so why would we start assuming godfather does?

@PV

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #10316 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:26 am

You and PV just vote Gio out of the blue? :/

Nahdia · Post Post #10317 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:35 am

no, we planned it in our scum thread. with maxous. maxous is there too. in our scum thread. he helped us plan it.

Nahdia · Post Post #10318 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:36 am

the above post is sarcasm.

Nahdia · Post Post #10319 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:36 am

just, you know, wanted to clear that up.

PeregrineV · Post Post #10320 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:53 am

In post 10316, BigYoshiFan wrote:You and PV just vote Gio out of the blue? :/

It's not really out of the blue, though, is it?

CFJ prevented the Almost50/PeregrineV lynch dichotomy yesterday.

he proposed Cake/Math/Gio scumteam.

I'm down with lynching Cake- and he dead.
I want to lynch Gio, since this is the third time he crumbed or left nothing while supposedly being a "weak" role, even after I chewed him out for it. I strongly suspect he is lying.
If the Gio wagon doesn't do it, then good with Mathblade lynch.

MathBlade · Post Post #10321 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:39 am

@PV - Ank is proposing that I am a godfather variant that also returns Town to weak players when I am not Town.
I don't think Gio is lying. Much like Cakez I suspect roles won't change. Gio has been a player very rarely active much like you and he did crumb IMHO. But that is my opinion.

However on the off chance he is not Town he is still truth telling as I am Town.

PeregrineV · Post Post #10322 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:00 am

In post 10321, MathBlade wrote:@PV - Ank is proposing that I am a godfather variant that also returns Town to weak players when I am not Town.
I don't think Gio is lying. Much like Cakez I suspect roles won't change. Gio has been a player very rarely active much like you and he did crumb IMHO. But that is my opinion.

However on the off chance he is not Town he is still truth telling as I am Town.

Weak Gio targeted Maxous, and yet lives. If Ank wants to speculate that you are scum with Gio being town, he's welcome to do so, but I would suspect some for of redirector role before I think you are a GF. Your more likely BP scum.

Interesting how I have 2.5 times the number of posts Gio has, but am "very rarely active".

MathBlade · Post Post #10323 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:51 am

I said you both are. Stop twisting my words.

Weak Gio targeted Maxous who is a claimed ascetic. That means the target never happened because ascetic.

MathBlade · Post Post #10324 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:52 am

In post 10322, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10321, MathBlade wrote:@PV - Ank is proposing that I am a godfather variant that also returns Town to weak players when I am not Town.
I don't think Gio is lying. Much like Cakez I suspect roles won't change. Gio has been a player very rarely active much like you and he did crumb IMHO. But that is my opinion.

However on the off chance he is not Town he is still truth telling as I am Town.
Weak Gio targeted Maxous, and yet lives. If Ank wants to speculate that you are scum with Gio being town, he's welcome to do so, but I would suspect some for of redirector role before I think you are a GF. Your more likely BP scum.

Interesting how I have 2.5 times the number of posts Gio has, but am "very rarely active".

You mean a redirector that not a once seems to have come into play? You are literally making up things before Gio flips Town in order to still scumread me. Daaaaaaaaaamn.