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So many people on this site don't do this.In post 2132, Joshz wrote:Admitting when you're wrong is a virtue.-
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Do you know what emp is talking about with regards to fitz's reaction to creeps?In post 2132, Joshz wrote:Your reads list didn't change at all before and after. That's bad regardless of alignment. Admitting when you're wrong is a virtue. My sarcasm is light, I bear no ill will to you and when you flip scum there will be no need to apologize if postgame
I don't remember any reaction-
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I understand.In post 2134, Joshz wrote:And that's a major reason I'm leaving ms but anyways not the place nor time
People don't scum hunt. They just exsist.
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Was thinking the same about your contributionsIn post 2155, Aj The Epic wrote:This game is actually disappointing.-
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I've given you a straight answer. Multiple times.In post 2186, Empking wrote:I have never said that Two going off the wagon was scummy - maybe before he said the policy - although I've acknowledged that it ought to be. What is scummy is that Two won't give a straight answer to questions about why he unvoted. "I don't lynch claimed PRs" is nonsense; it's impossible. It is halfway between "I won't be on the wagon of a claimed PR day one. Just won't" and "I'll try to keep claimed PRs from being lynched" Posturing or protecting, but when asked directly which one he just calls me a liar and repeats his (gibberish) mantra. That's not pro-town behaviour. Perhaps it was obvious to you that he meant posturing? But where was the pro-town motivation is refusing to make it obvious to me? My question was not difficult.
I don't lynch claimed PRs day 1. I don't know how I can be any more clear, also it is not nonsense and certainly not impossible since I didn't lynch a claimed PR day 1. Side note, It's a very smart policy that all players should have.
The fact that you keep harping on this and saying I'm scum because I correctly call you a liar is exactly why you're scum.
If you were town you would admit your mistake and move on. The fact that you have the nerve to claim I'm shady for my policy is why you need death.
And another thing. I didn't call you a liar for your question. I called you a liar because you accused me of flip flopping. i never flip flopped so that was a false accusation.
And I'm sorry but you aren't in any position to say what is and isn't protown behavior. You want me to believe you are town, yet you've lied. Lying isn't protown behavior.-
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You know what semantics is? Semantics is me doing the same thing in those other games as I did here but saying it's different because I didn't say the word policy.In post 2186, Empking wrote:That's not semantics. If he is claiming to have a policy in this game. And it certainly looks like a policy in this game. But it wasn't a policy in those other games. Regardless, I literally said that I am willing to concede the argument in that post. That's not remotely arguing over semantics.
"I also have this thing about lynching claimed PRs day one. "
"I am not a big fan of lynching claimed PRs on day 1"
"You don't lynch a claimed pr day 1 ever"
All 3 say essentially the same thing, just worded differently. All 3 my actions were the same. I didn't lynch a claimed pr. Since empking is big on semantics. I'll say it in a way that makes sense to hissimple mind.
All 3 say essentially the same thing, just worded differently. All 3 my actions were the same. I didn't vote a claimed pr.
The end result is the same. I'm never going to vote a claimed pr day 1.-
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Anyone with a 2nd grade reading level should have been able to figure out that my policy is that I won't be on the wagon. I've basically said as much multiple times.In post 2186, Empking wrote:It is halfway between "I won't be on the wagon of a claimed PR day one. Just won't" and "I'll try to keep claimed PRs from being lynched" Posturing or protecting
Cause you can't figure out that when I say I won't lynch somebody, that actually means I won't vote somebody is kind of tragic. People on this site for years have been interchanging these words so I seriously doubt it's a new concept to you.
Now for the other part. If I believe the claim and we have ample time I'll definitely try to swing votes elsewhere.
Nacho made a very good point that made me not believe fitz's claim. If you're a legit town pr and at l-1, you don't risk going to bed without claiming. Not on this site where lol hammers happen all the time.
Although I did quote my policy about pr day 1. Your predecessors vote was bad. Definitely could have been for town cred. He sort of off and on pushed fitz but never had a real reason too. The one time he tried to give a reason, the reason wasn't even true. But that's off topic.
I did explain why it's a bad idea to lynch claimed PRs so I did sort of try to prevent it. If math wouldn't have been stupid and hammered via CC this game would be completely different. Town would probably be in better shape.-
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In post 2192, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:uhhhhhh
VOTE: Twoface VOTE:
Okay that's a lie
Scoty claimed tracker and you were still on her wagon without a 2nd thought.
Sure I'll explain it.In post 2193, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: twoface
So you gonna explain this " I don't vote claimed pr's"
deal ?
See I was killed night 1 overcaimed masons for correctly identifying 2/3 of the scum team.
Sotty claimed tracker day 2
I was dead when the tracker claim happened.
What else you got?-
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In post 1110, mhsmith0 wrote:TwoFace was killed in the night! He was
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Day two deadline is Friday November 18, 1 PM PST. (expired on 2016-11-18 13:00:00)In post 1436, Sotty7 wrote:I see the unvote but whatever.
I'm a tracker, I tracked Jaack he didn't go anywhere. It was a toss up between him and twoface. I realized twoface more of a me read and a couple of people told me that I was tunneling so I ended up going with Jaack as he was my next best read.-
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In post 2190, TwoFace wrote:Btw in my original post I never used the word policy so not even sure how that got introduced-
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In post 2206, Empking wrote:Its not me who is harping on about it.
You're the one who can't stop talking about it-
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Yes you brought up the policy.
You asked for examples of the policy
I provided examples of the "policy"
You then use the fact that against me in a negative way BECAUSE I never used the word policy.In post 1975, Empking wrote:Plus you posted the exact posts wiothin thode games. Ezact posts that communicate a desire, a preference, but not so much a policy. Rgardless, I', willing to accept that you do have a policy
no way you do that as town
No way ANYONE does that as town.
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Nah just emp flailingIn post 2214, Aristophanes wrote:I'm not reading these walls.
If there is something worth noting other than a war based on semantics and full of bickering, please summarize it for me.-
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Good idea. He's not saying anything of value anywayIn post 2217, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I'ma just act like I read all these walls and nod my head-
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Unfortunately I don't think I can go along with that.In post 2238, Joshz wrote:I will lynch aj for you if you're 100% sure. I think it's a mistake, but I will. This is if TwoFace and luv agree.-
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I wasn't the one who wanted to wait. Others did so I was being patient.In post 2261, Aj The Epic wrote:Also fantastic job ignoring literally everything Nacho posted, so why even bother waiting if you were just going to disregard them anyways?
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?In post 2285, Aj The Epic wrote:It's one of the mentalities that makes LAL exist.-
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Hopefully nacho has done this.In post 2270, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Welp. Nacho if you're reading this please post any last minute thoughts/reads in the mason PT.-
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Bad post. If I could I'd vote you now alsoIn post 2299, Gamma Emerald wrote:Look at what you're saying. Do you really think scum would be such an easy target?-
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In post 2294, TwoFace wrote:Nah nobody should be suspicious of me for the hammer.-
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I'm a shitty reader. What can I say. I saw your wagon was falling apart and pissed off. I was ok with aj being lynched so I voted him before I headed out.In post 2348, Empking wrote:
Accidently two posts after the vote count. Yeah, guys at my high school used o do that all the time.In post 2341, TwoFace wrote:Kinda busy right now but @emp. I didn't lolhammer anyone. I accidentally hammered. There's a difference
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The reasoning is bad because it's not AI. Accidents happen. If you're town you're letting your shitty reasons for scum reading me bias your opinion of the accidental hammer. In the end the hammer didn't hurt anything and he was somebody I was willing to lynch and he was probably going to be lynched anyway since people didn't want to lynch you.-
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no we didn't because he shares a PF with another mason who is still alive and they had the entire night phase to discuss things. The other mason is perfectly capable to summarize Nacho's final thoughts for us.In post 2356, Empking wrote:We lost Nacho's final thoughts due to that manner; probably. That's a great harm.
That hammer cannot plausibly be seen as an accident. If people are willing to let you get away with what is clearly awful garbage, then we deserve to lose.
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In post 2357, Empking wrote:wow. such accident. much whatever. much im over this game. such accident. wow.-
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you still here whining? damn are you like 6 years old? grow up already and move on. shit happens. it was a fucking accident. move on
if you are town, make a case on somebody else. you're original reason for scum reading me is absolute shit. your attempt to downplay my push on fitz is absolute shit. using conf.bias to make this accidental hammer into some sort of scummy thing is absolute shit.
I have seen nothing pro-town from you so far and this whining doesn't make you look any better.-
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nacho said he would post stuff, I am sure he posted it in the pf with uzi.In post 2302, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'll make sure to post full reads when I get home today, which is late but is gonna happen.
@ uzi - was nacho able to post his final thoughts? if yes can you summarize for us?
Thank you-
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oh well that sucks. he did make a bunch of posts in the game though so we know what he was thinking. if emp is town and wants to keep pushing me for a mistake, he can go right ahead but post game he can go eat a brick when it's revealed I was town and he was just stupid.
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The unvote was cause of me not wanting to lynch claimed PRs day 1, so to scum read me for the unvote IS scum reading me for somettjdt is at best a town tell for me. At worst it's s null tell.
And you could totally be scum whining.
You're 2 main points against me are non AI. If you're town you're probably going to get lynched because of that. That's why I think you are scum. There is no way I can see town push non AI things as scummy. Fitz did and got caught. You're doing it now and are caught.
If youte town, you need to take this game more seriously and come back with scum reads based on legitimately scummy things.-
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For now gamma gets a pass as fitz tried to push gamma. Right now nobody is scummier than emp. Vote empIn post 2368, Joshz wrote:Both of you fit as gamma partners so why can't we just lynch gamma and deal with this tomorrow zzz-
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maybe you could call the attack on gamma lackluster, but I don't think you can call his attack on me lackluster since he basically pushed for my lynch the majority of the game. if anything I think in fitz's initial list reads, he had much better reasons to push gamma over me. You call it distancing, but scum are only going to distance when they have to. I was under no pressure at all, nobody was even really scum reading me so to think he cast shade on me out of the blue just to distance is just more stupid thinking if you are town.In post 2367, Empking wrote:Fitz gives a lacklustre attack on Two, Two reacts with an unconvincing attack on Fitz that looks like distancing.
There is absolutely no way you can call my push on fitz unconvincing because at least 2 or 3 people liked my reasons, one of them is confirmed town said they were good and contributed to his scum read on fitz.-
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Not trueIn post 2381, Empking wrote:Accidental hammers don't actually happen-
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