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Post Post #4975 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:34 pm

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DECK x 34 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 26


DAY 5 VOTECOUNT #3


McMenno (3)
- -Grey-, drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert
Mathblade (2)
- Dunnstral, gigabyteTroubadour
SpyreX (1)
- McMenno
Dunnstral (1)
- Mathblade

Not Voting (8)
- gerryoat, Fishythefish, davesaz, Kison, Maxous, Vecna, SpyreX, TheWayItEnds

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.


Deadline is set for (expired on 2017-01-16 22:09:40).
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Post Post #4976 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:49 pm

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I'm mostly concluded that MB is dumbtunneling to the extreme but I wouldn't be surprised if they were scum either, not the most comfortable vote going there

much more comfortable with the mcmenno vote still think we should pursue that after how the wagons were yesterday especially
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Post Post #4977 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:51 pm

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i'm basing my ultimate decision for today based on the cardspy results tbh

math being scum is new information to me and actually i found something in the VCs I want to point out that strongly hints scum!Vedith

stay tuned
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Post Post #4978 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:44 pm

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Vedith scum wouldn't shock me
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Post Post #4979 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:45 pm

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Ok so still reading and you've even more confused me giga

Cause kraska was pushy on maria d2 more but you were saveaho waay before then
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Post Post #4980 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:47 pm

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i'm still going through and copying and pasting all the votecounts into notepad before i color them in and start analyzing and writing what i initially saw and if closer analysis shows me anything but question to the audience
In post 2012, Quipla wrote:Lil Uzi Vert (6) - SpyreX,
Fishythefish
, Kison,
milkshake
,
Titus
, kraska77
Vedith (6) - davesaz,
Jackel98
, gerryoat,
gigabyeTroubadour
,
rb
,
Transcend

Drone
(3) - Vifam,
MariaR
, Vedith
Jackel98
(2) - Maxous, Vecna
Transcend
(1) - McMenno
rb
(1) - drealmerz7
milkshake
(1) -
Creature

MariaR
(1) -
Drone


Not Voting (2) Dunnstral, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)
how likely do you guys think it is that the entire drone wagon at the moment has 3 scum on it...?

scum vanitying makes a lot of sense with town!Uzi and his composition being mostly town i think even if vedith is scum since it'll look the people pushing Uzi look bad after he flips

especially if the scum CW has volatile voters on it like rb, myself, and Transcend so it might not even win

but an entire wagon of scum?

vifam was inactive but Maria and Vedith had to have deliberately put their votes there

i think vedith was sheeping Maria too? lmfao??

the only issue is i have a really had time finding the fourth scum (it's not dunn and it's not grey, i have that much for certain in a scum!Blade world)
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Lil Uzi Vert
(6) -
SpyreX
,
Fishythefish
, Kison,
milkshake
,
Titus
,
kraska77

Vedith
(6) -
davesaz
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Jackel98
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gerryoat
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gigabyeTroubadour
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rb
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Transcend

Drone
(3) - Vifam,
MariaR
,
Vedith

Jackel98
(2) - Maxous,
Vecna

Transcend
(1) -
McMenno

rb
(1) -
drealmerz7

milkshake
(1) -
Creature

MariaR
(1) -
Drone


Not Voting (2)
Dunnstral
,
Lil Uzi Vert


With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)
coloring the reads that i'm really sure on in and their respective assocative reads (confbias zone lmfao but whatever)

{fishy, vecna, drealfucker} all obvtowns i don't feel like explaining my read on, i think all three have good maria associatives too (maybe not fishy as much?)

i think this is workable tbh

one town in {Max, Kison, TWIE}? intuition says max but i can see all three
SpyreX wrote:Ok so still reading and you've even more confused me giga

Cause kraska was pushy on maria d2 more but you were saveaho waay before then
saveaho? spy ilu but sometimes i don't know what you're saying

what are your thoughts on one-town-in-{Max, Kison, TWIE}?
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Post Post #4981 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:49 pm

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In post 3409, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3353, MariaR wrote:Shoot Luv Dunn or Gerry thanks :/
Weak. Shoot Maria
Interesting set of 3 by maria
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Post Post #4982 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 4980, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:{fishy, vecna, drealfucker} all obvtowns i don't feel like explaining my read on, i think all three have good maria associatives too (maybe not fishy as much?)
forgot to continue this oops

gerry's town by diamonds hoodmembership that isn't a fruit vendor (as is dunn but also good associations with vedith slot)

LUV's wagon is a steady CW to scum, meaning it's mostly town (so one scum in {LUV, MB} but LUV scum makes little sense with the rb kill so early on)

still really fucking sure i can read kraska over the long-game

if dave were bussing he'd probably rather bus Maria

SpyreX is towning the fuck up as he's about to be PL'd

don't really see anything else that needs explaining. even if i can't explain my scumreads well the townreads work via POE
SpyreX wrote:
In post 3409, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3353, MariaR wrote:Shoot Luv Dunn or Gerry thanks :/
Weak. Shoot Maria
Interesting set of 3 by maria
based on meta they're all town too
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Post Post #4983 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:52 pm

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that's not the damning evidence that vedith is scum via votecounts btw

but the idea that the uzi wagon has a fuckton of flipped town/obvtown and just never moves means that scum don't want him lynched early on, screams town lynchbait

i think he'd be bussed as scum if he were caught that early, and rb would definitely not be killed because that means scum don't want to bus
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Post Post #4984 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:53 pm

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Just one twon? Thats hard. Heart says kison head says max for town there.
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Post Post #4985 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:57 pm

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In post 4984, SpyreX wrote:Just one twon? Thats hard. Heart says kison head says max for town there.
yeah i basically feel the same way tbh

i still don't really know why i scumread kison... when i read his iso i think town

but max reads as town too and i'm assuming his claim is really town (as in i know what it is)
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Post Post #4986 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:27 pm

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In post 4974, Maxous wrote:
In post 4955, MathBlade wrote:Used to townread Maxous til that
why?

> Vedith pushed a lot of people that either flipped town or are obvious town now
> he defended flipped scum Maria to the point of attacking people calling her scum
> your play has been overly tunnely and narrow to the point that yesterday and the start of today you were only talking about Dunnstral.

reasonable enough case i think
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Post Post #4987 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:28 pm

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Town Maxous would reread and find his mistakes after pushing the ArcAngel lynch. Instead he lurks and just throws shade. I has need more votes.
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Post Post #4988 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:30 pm

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In post 4947, Maxous wrote:no Vedith was active

he just spent the entire time pushing town people and chainsaw defending maria

VOTE: MathBlade
????????????????

math it's not throwing shade if you're pushing the fuckign lynch good gl

stop throwing random buzzwords that don't even apply laughing my lmao ass off
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Post Post #4989 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:31 pm

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In post 4987, MathBlade wrote:Town Maxous would reread and find his mistakes after pushing the ArcAngel lynch. Instead he lurks and just throws shade. I has need more votes.
are you insinuating that

town!maxous can't reread the game

and come to the conclusion you're scum via AA9 townflip??
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Post Post #4990 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:57 pm

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In post 3539, davesaz wrote:Grr, there are some people who don't like game theory 101 lectures, but if you're going to insist then I'll oblige.

Situation matters, a lot. Suppose you have a game with very few PRs. If there is someone who town is clearly better off without, then you go ahead and risk hitting town. If you have a highly likely scum read you take the shot at them. But you don't screw town over by shooting someone you think is town. And you don't take a wild shot if you don't really have any strong reads.

This game is a lot more like role madness. It's actively bad for town to take a vig or venge shot unless you're really sure it benefits town. You have a
100% chance of hitting a PR
in this game. (*) Well, it's more like a n-shot random phase JOAT, but still everyone is a PR of some sort...

I do not think we should assume anything about Jackel's shot, and I'm going to take a very dim view of anyone trying to push that angle.

Pedit: why do you want to hear from McMenno?
This makes me want dave dead more
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Post Post #4991 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:07 pm

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not following that train of thought but do tell

dave is like

the one slot that i feel like is town because i believe it in my heart

maria scumread D2 and pushing to slow down and think about things after jackel ml reads genuine to me dunno
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Post Post #4992 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:08 pm

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In post 3689, McMenno wrote:I don't think I can support a mariar lynch here

one I feel like this is kinda her v kraska on who jackel shot and I am scumreading kraska more

two she is my scumbuddy and I don't really want to bus right now
This hurts us yea yea i know but the cheek
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Post Post #4993 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:10 pm

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In post 4991, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:because i believe it in my heart
by this i mean i have like no reason to really believe in it as hard as i actually do and most of it comes from me wanting that slot to be town than actually reading it as town
SpyreX wrote:
In post 3689, McMenno wrote:I don't think I can support a mariar lynch here

one I feel like this is kinda her v kraska on who jackel shot and I am scumreading kraska more

two she is my scumbuddy and I don't really want to bus right now
This hurts us yea yea i know but the cheek
don't think it's cheeky scum?
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Post Post #4994 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:13 pm

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vote: dunn[/v]
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Post Post #4995 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:16 pm

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VOTE: dunn
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Post Post #4996 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:17 pm

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In post 3948, Kison wrote:
In post 3878, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Major D2 wagons include Transcend (which was stopped because of rb's presumable inno on him), LUV, and Jackel (pushed by kraska/-grey-, main reason being that he was a scumread player with a vengeful, and any kill at that stage of the game would provide information. he flipped town and presumably attempted to kill Maria, but she could have been protected by a scum white mage).
Maria had a 4-person wagon going end of D2.

It's inconceivable to me that scum would not be on the wagon during day 3 with how little opposition there was to it. Opportunistic Maria bussing will most likely be found among the people who did not push her to be lynched Day 2, when up against town-lynch Jackel, but decided to hop aboard Day 3, when it seemed inevitable.

D2 (pitted against town Jackel):
MariaR (4) - davesaz, Dunnstral, Maxous, Kison

D3:
MariaR (10) - Dunnstral, kraska77, Kison, Lil Uzi Vert, gigabyteTroubadour, Vecna, drealmerz7, Fishythefish, SpyreX, Transcend

There are some people who jumped back and forth on D2(I recall Kraska off the top of my head as being the initial driving force for the Maria wagon) but these are the day-ending counts.

I'll be looking into all of these people individually. From memory, Uzi & SpyreX's votes looked sleazy. I remember Fish's being thought out. I don't really recall the rest.
Ohh look dave was a d2 but not d3 fancy that
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Post Post #4997 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:18 pm

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wouldn't that make him more likely to be town? :/
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Post Post #4998 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:24 pm

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In post 4127, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 4124, -Grey- wrote:
In post 4122, TheWayItEnds wrote:I think you might be a vi from this game tbh. No meta required.
Yeah homie sling that shade. Dance in vagary.

Calling me a VI just gives me cover to act like scum because hey, I'm just an idiot anyway right?

Your play is scummy as hell and I wouldn't mind seeing you lynched today, either.
You shot the most town person in the game. What would you call that?
This titus the most town schtick is sticky and gross. I'm not stoked by grey but this maan ohh man
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Post Post #4999 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:27 pm

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In post 4118, Quipla wrote:
ATTENTION TOWNIES, the 10 of Diamonds was taken from the discard pile.
ooooooh

somethings have clicked for me

i think
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