Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

VOTE: NachoDaddy

When I get to Mastin in my reads list, it'll explain why I'm willing to listen to her at this point

[Pine]

VOTE: Nachoooooooo

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

01. Secret Agent Jin

Spoiler: The Other Less Cool Jin

Abstract: Beginning scum lean for fence sitting behavior

Post 187, Para 1: My first impression is a subtle distancing with dreal. I mainly don't like the fact that that the way Jin i setting up his reads in a way that they can change quite easily. With Dreal, he says that normally he'd look scummy but he'll null him until he comes under heat. This reads to me as a set up to a bus if the situation arises.

Post 187, Para 3: To continue the idea that formulated in my head, here he said Mastin would have been a town lean but he's willing to not read town and say she's scum. I think again that it's just early game set up to allow him to sway his opinion on a player to follow what the town thinks so he doesn't come under much suspicion.

Post 187, Para 4: To answer Jin's question, he answers it in the prelude to giving the question. Jin specifically stated that he believed what Mastin was doing so the purpose of asking if Mastin's post being genuine or fabricated has me puzzled.

Post 187, Para 5: This paragraph, I don't believe in because Mastin's reasoning is basically focusing on Nacho as the main threat and if he's not scum, then ergo Mastin is scum. That's a dangerous gambit to put oneself as scum and makes her the center of attention. I don't doubt that Mastin can handle being center of attention as scum but she's right in saying that as scum, it's not smart to make yourself prime lynching material.

Post 208: I'm looking at this post as a reason to not give a definitive statement as to what he thinks about Mastin's alignment. You can attempt to come to the conclusion that she's town for saying to lynch her on D2 if she's wrong or push an angle that it's scum making it all for info manipulation latter down the road. Either way, either option has to sound better in your mind and not giving a statement about what you actually think is continuous fence sitting like I've pointed out earlier.

Yeah this are going to take me awhile to do

[Prism]

My vote apparently didn't count since camn hadn't announced it so I'm going to put this back up as a placeholder.

VOTE: Gin N Tonic

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

02. BTD6_MAKER

Spoiler: Big Truck Driver 6

Abstract: Beginning Scum Lean

Post 104 and Post 115: Together I'm not seeing genuine concern in thinking Mastin is scum but is finding an excuse to vote mastin. First he votes at 7:03 AM EST and says she's most likely to be scum with Pine because they've played together a long time ago. Then after 100 posts and 12 hours later, he continues to vote Mastin in light of all the discussion that has occurred, he doesn't put in further input continuing to prove his theory, it's a simple vote and he bounces.

[Pine]

Gin, how can I help you not get lynched?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Provide a link to a game where I'm more valuable to you as town if you're scum cuz you blatantly used me like a rag doll to get a scum win and I was an IC.

I doubt you'll be able to provide such help tho as that scenario probably never actually happened.

Also keep me alive till at least D4, after that you can kill me but at least give till then BB

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I dont know who this Pine guy is and we have zero history so this speculation that I was drafted by him is scum or just wrong


Maybe I'll read the same at some point

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=21228
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=19615
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=19355
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=18662


Okay this is part of my read on Fate and I just wanted to point out they actually do have history together

[pisskop]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... lit=jingle

[pisskop]

hehehe thats my experience with pine.

[pisskop]

Jinglebell jinglebell jinglebell rock
Jingle pls hammer scumm
I know shes your buddy
and you wanna win
but thats how jingle will rockk!

hehehe

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

03. TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Spoiler: The Town Drunk

Read that name lmao

04. Nachomamma8

Spoiler: NachoDaddy

Abstract: No Read

One Post saying he'll check in tomorrow, will update once a sufficient read can be produced.

05. Fate

Spoiler: Karma

Abstract: Confused

I remember talking in a queue and learned that playing a game with Fate was a pain and I'm starting to understand why.

I'll be honest and say I'm having a hard time getting a read from his slot.

Only thing that spiked my mind is him saying he had no history with Pine when after what was probably a waste of my life, he had these games he played with him:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=21228
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=19615
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=19355
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=18662

[Pine]

Shhhhh, don't worry about Fate. Let's lynch Nacho!

CHAAARRRRGE!

[Secret Agent Jin]

So Pine, like, are you trying to keep him alive by making us think you want him lynched and then we think he is town because you would never say to lynch your own team but you actually did pick him for your team? Or are you trying to get him lynched by saying to lynch him which we think is actually your attempt to save a scum member so we would consider him town and then we actually lynch him because we would say you knew we would townread him for what you did but actually we scumread him and my brain exploded.

What does Pine gain from saying he wants a Nacho lynch actually say? I think Pine knows we would townread Nacho for that so he said it because he actually wants us to scumread Nacho but we are smarter than to fall for Pine's trap and he knows that so he thinks we will townread Nacho when we actually need to scumread nacho.

I quit, i am out, im done, im going to bed.

[pisskop]

Just ignore pine?

[pisskop]

Pine signed up to be a spectator with posting rights.

Hes a liability to his team

[Secret Agent Jin]

Alright, so like, ill close my eyes when i get to Pines posts and scroll past them lol

[Pine]

Ahh, but there's so much to gain! I, after all, am the only one who 1) Knows the answers, 2) You know I know the answers and 3) Is willing to interact with you meaningfully

[Pine]

This is all distracting from my raging murdercock for Nacho.

[camn]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 4

• Secret Agent Jin ---
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  BTD6_MAKER ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  2 ( Monokuma, Prism, )
  L- 5
  
  
  Nachomamma8 --------
  2 ( mastina, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Pine )
  L- 5
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  2 ( Vaxkiller, pisskop, )
  L- 5
  
  
  Monokuma -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  mastina ------------
  3 ( drealmerz7, SirCakez, BTD6_MAKER, )
  L- 4
  
  
  Aeronaut -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  2 ( Fate, Aeronaut, )
  L- 5
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  pisskop ------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  2 ( Secret Agent Jin, Nachomamma8,
  )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-01-22 18:00:00)

[drealmerz7]

pine is just terrible at WIFOM

vote mastina

[Fate]

I dont remember a lot of mafia games it seems

VOTE: Nacho

Willing to sheep Pine tho

[Monokuma]

BREAKING NEWS: MASTINA IGNORES POSTS WHICH DIRECTLY ADDRESS HER AND HER READS.

BELOVED BEAR MONOKUMA ATTEMPTS TO APPEAL TO MASTINA TO STOP ATTEMPTING TO MURDER ADORABLE POKEMON ALIGNED WITH TOWN. MASTINA WHIZZES STRAIGHT PAST THE POST IN HER CATCH UP WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A CURT SHAKE OF THE HEAD. IN LIGHT OF THIS SHOCKING TURN OF EVENTS, OUR EXPERTS ARE SAYING "GOD DAMMIT MASTINA WE TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF YOUR WORD WALLS AND THIS WHAT WE GET IN RETURN????" MORE ON THIS AT 11.

P-EDIT: THIS JUST IN! EXCITING NEWS BULLITEIN! SHOCKING! FATE HAS ALSO FAILED TO RESPOND TO MONOKUMA'S POST ASKING HIM A DIRECT QUESTION IN POST 213. IT IS AS OF THIS MOMENT UNCLEAR WHETHER THE SUSPECT IS INTENTIONALLY IGNORING MONOKUMA OR IF HE SIMPLY DID NOT NOTICE THE POST. ADDITIONALLY, DUE TO THE FREQUENCY OF THESE OCCURRENCES, RESEARCHERS AT SOME FANCY SMART PEOPLE PLACE ARE NOW LOOKING INTO WHETHER MONOKUMA MAY ACTUALLY BE A PHANTOM WHOM NO ONE ELSE CAN SEE. MORE ON THIS AT 11:05.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Hey Mastin, how long does it take you to plan for a game?

[drealmerz7]

omg I'm going to wreck you all if I can find the time

fucking PK complete contradiction I noticed (I think?) - I have to go find the meats - pretty sure he said pine gives free conf.scum posts for us to read into, and then says to ignore pine's posts?

that's leess than half-assed, sorry, will get to it that was a quickie

DEFINITELY READ PINE'S POSTS, omg