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Raskolnikov · Post Post #3025 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:48 am

Okay I think shadonra's probably town.

Idk why he wouldn't just lynch titus otherwise given he probably could get away with it easily.
Shadonra scum with anyone outside of {Titus, Drone, Kyouko} should and would just lynch inside and let the remaining 2 fight next day I think.
But kyoukos town individually and as far as association 2885 is super risky and unlikely from him.
Drone-shadonra seems like the only real alternative but titus has too many things that don't make sense about her. Though as an alternative the team doesn't feel right either, interactions almost too bare and you'd expect some level of distancing I'd think.
Titus-shadonra's kind of a ridiculous notion really but doesn't actually matter with regard to this choice I think...

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3026 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:50 am

The reaction when hard pushed to not get defensive but instead look around and even push without any sense for self-preservation too.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3027 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:59 am

Think I've been overcomplicating things. This means I was pretty much defending scum all of d2 and 3 from lynch though...
Titus scum puts some context with the TTTT kill, me defending her and even kyouko seemed to prefer drone to her.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3028 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:05 am

Titus with drone, or failing that one of sesq or shannon.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3029 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:07 am

Probably gonna hammer today.

Again, really should've flipped drone yesterday to solve this neighbourhood fuckery, if we lose the game it's because everyone randomly went up and lynched gerryoat for no reason instead of that.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3030 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:10 am

The downside is even if titus is town if we mislynched she'd probably end up lynching kyouko in 5p

Drone · Post Post #3031 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:27 am

The Gerryoat lynch was actually very bad but with TTTT and Gerryoat out, my reads solidified.
Titus is one.
The second is either in Raskolnikov or Shannon.

Sesq · Post Post #3032 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:35 am

In post 3031, Drone wrote:The Gerryoat lynch was actually very bad but with TTTT and Gerryoat out, my reads solidified.
Titus is one.
The second is either in Raskolnikov or Shannon.

Why do you read rask and shannon?

I can understand Titus, evidently.

Drone · Post Post #3033 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:37 am

Because Shadonra and your reads are solidified to the towny side.
While Shannon is shaky here and Rask lives WAYYY too long.

The next nk will also clear up shit ton of stuff

Sesq · Post Post #3034 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:42 am

Can you elaborate on shannon being "shaky"?

Titus · Post Post #3035 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:06 am

In post 3018, Drone wrote:
In post 3011, shadonra wrote:
In post 3002, Drone wrote:The choice of Impoetic and for gunsmith and the result seem like a safe claim.
This can add up.
Again, we can be horribly wrong here, but the doc flip points she did fake claim.
Since she's this good, I'm confident with the lynch.
She'd be bashing me and dissing me hard for voting her if she'd be town.
Can you explain this part? I don't understand how claiming no result = guilty on Impo is a safe claim. I assume by doc -> Titus fake claim you mean that the setup is townsided, but from my POV I know there's a roleblocker. I don't like the rest of your post, but I don't have Titus meta so I don't feel like judging you on this.
1) This is something I didn't share with anyone up until now; but I always felt like, of all targets why Impoetic? With gunsmith??
Their existence was blurry and they barely did anything. Definitely they could target me for example, who they suspected back then.

2) I don't have a Titus meta, I actually met her the first time here.
But we're neighbours and it helped me to get to know her.

I gave you wake's rolemadness. You didn't look.

I know how to play roles. With a jailkeep that's 1 shot, you wait until you get a clear or a confirm.

Titus · Post Post #3036 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:07 am

In post 3030, Raskolnikov wrote:The downside is even if titus is town if we mislynched she'd probably end up lynching kyouko in 5p

I am voting Shad. I am saying Shad is confirmed scum by play. Yet, you're postulating that I mislynch SSM in 5p
What the fork?

Titus · Post Post #3037 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:09 am

In post 3025, Raskolnikov wrote:Okay I think shadonra's probably town.

Idk why he wouldn't just lynch titus otherwise given he probably could get away with it easily.
Shadonra scum with anyone outside of {Titus, Drone, Kyouko} should and would just lynch inside and let the remaining 2 fight next day I think.
But kyoukos town individually and as far as association 2885 is super risky and unlikely from him.
Drone-shadonra seems like the only real alternative but titus has too many things that don't make sense about her. Though as an alternative the team doesn't feel right either, interactions almost too bare and you'd expect some level of distancing I'd think.
Titus-shadonra's kind of a ridiculous notion really but doesn't actually matter with regard to this choice I think...

This is terrible analysis.

Shad is whiteknighting me so you don't turbo lynch him when I flip town.

My only concern by play on that is SSM posturing the no all town lynch on love.

Titus · Post Post #3038 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:10 am

I gotta go for IRL things but I am not a fan of Rask suddenly losing his townread on me when SSM positis Drone with Rask.

Titus · Post Post #3039 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:11 am

I am starting to go full paranoia though so maybe a day of recalibration while my friend is in town tonight will do good.

Titus · Post Post #3040 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:17 am

Just do not lynch me until I come up with a plan for you to follow tomorrow. I have company coming into town tonight.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3041 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:06 am

I think if you're town you have to be wrong though about pretty much everything.

If shadonra is scum I don't think it's with kyouko. The whole pushing a no-result as a guilty is shaky as fuck, and I don't get picking impoetic over your scumreads n2 and now no-one.

You'd have to make a case based on play not the no-counterwagon spec and ascetic push. I thought you were town by necessity as last PR before gerry flipped, assumption being protective would've just insta'CC a universal backup claim back when it was VS follower (and anyone other than gerry probably would've) and from your reads at the time, not from anything in your pushes being especially town. Basically don't see a compelling reason why you couldn't fake this push atm whereas shadonra at least seems like he thought about things a bit more in depth.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3042 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:14 am

In post 3038, Titus wrote:I gotta go for IRL things but I am not a fan of Rask suddenly losing his townread on me when SSM positis Drone with Rask.

He said that was only the case if both you and shadonra were town

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3043 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:25 am

TBH I feel more uncomfortable with drone echoing shad's position that I've lived too long while voting with me than anything from kyouko

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3044 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:38 am

VOTE: Drone

Actually fuck it

Drone · Post Post #3045 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:45 am

Because I'm looking for viable second scum Raskolnikov. Wouldn't that be reasonable at this point?
One thing at a time I'd say, I'm committed to what I think is completely legit and that is finding the scum from Kyouko/Titus.

shannon · Post Post #3046 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:59 pm

In post 3040, Titus wrote:Just do not lynch me until I come up with a plan for you to follow tomorrow. I have company coming into town tonight.

I think if you were going to be hammered it would have happened by now. Scum are probably already on the wagon.

Sesq · Post Post #3047 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:02 pm

In post 3046, shannon wrote:
In post 3040, Titus wrote:Just do not lynch me until I come up with a plan for you to follow tomorrow. I have company coming into town tonight.
I think if you were going to be hammered it would have happened by now. Scum are probably already on the wagon.

Well, TTTT (townflip) hammered on D1, Drone (?) hammered on D2, and shannon (YOU) hammered on D3... might want to reconsider this logic here.

shannon · Post Post #3048 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:06 pm

In post 3033, Drone wrote:Because Shadonra and your reads are solidified to the towny side.
While Shannon is shaky here and Rask lives WAYYY too long.

The next nk will also clear up shit ton of stuff

Do you really think Rask has lived too long? I don't see that.

shannon · Post Post #3049 (ISO) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:07 pm

In post 3047, Sesq wrote:
In post 3046, shannon wrote:
In post 3040, Titus wrote:Just do not lynch me until I come up with a plan for you to follow tomorrow. I have company coming into town tonight.
I think if you were going to be hammered it would have happened by now. Scum are probably already on the wagon.
Well, TTTT (townflip) hammered on D1, Drone (?) hammered on D2, and shannon (YOU) hammered on D3... might want to reconsider this logic here.

I don't quite see what you're getting at?