Mini 1868 - Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I'm gonna do RQS this game

IOW

I'm scum and don't know how to pretend to hunt, so I think I'll use RQS to give me something else to talk about.

Yeah you're shit at reading me

[Aj The Epic]

@tammy

Investigative roles aren't gated AFAIK. There's 1 of them, not one shot. Mafia RB, Town Doctor, Town Vig have x shots.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

All bashing of the setup should be saved for post game. Its disrespectful to the mod to bash it now in my opinion.

[Tammy]

@tammy

Investigative roles aren't gated AFAIK. There's 1 of them, not one shot. Mafia RB, Town Doctor, Town Vig have x shots.

OH color me stupid.

[Persivul]

I'm think a mass claim might break this game.
Am I wrong?

It might, but not on D1. D2 or D3 depending on how things go.

[Tammy]

All bashing of the setup should be saved for post game. Its disrespectful to the mod to bash it now in my opinion.

I'm not bashing it; I'm pointing out that it's unbalanced. And now that it looks like I was completely wrong about the investigatives being one-shot, it might not be as dire as it looks, so.

[Tammy]

So then obviously definitely not on the mass claiming day one

There still might be something to making a pool of players for the investigatives just so that they don't overlap though. (Although with a godfather about that might not be too bad actually.)

[Persivul]

I'm not sure if anyone is still taking it seriously, but I'm strongly against mass claim. Nothing on our side really suggests it's a good idea, while the fact that there are four scum ought not influence it; aside for putting us into lynch or lose earlier.

However, mightn't there be a virtue in our deciding who the gunsmith and cop should investigate - obviously with the caveat that one wouldn't investigate oneself. Or is that giving scum more info than we'd want to?

First, style points for ought and mightn't.

Regarding choosing targets...when you've been rolling VT for awhile and finally get a juicy PR, are you gonna just do what town tells you to do? A lot of people will rather do what they like, and then you risk getting a sense of a false clear because a guilty wasn't given on one of the targets, but they may not have been investigated. IMO we just let the PRs do what they want, because that's probably what they'll do anyway.

[Persivul]

3. Regarding the Gunsmith's role, the Godfather DOES in fact show up as having a gun.

mod - how about the cop and vig? Can you confirm that they have guns (per the wiki)?

[Tammy]

Dammit, just when I was feeling better about the game, false positives arise.

[Persivul]

What would lead me to think it's an open game anyway? Here's the post I looked at. What looks special about it that I should have noticed. Does it say "OPEN GAME EVERYONE THERE'S FOUR SCUM MAKE SURE YOU NOTICE THAT" anywhere?

No, but when you click on

Description

it tells you exactly what roles are in the game.

[Tammy]

Who does that?

And why are you acting like I'm supposed to?

Where was my scum motivation for reacting to the setup the way I did though?

[Persivul]

Dammit, just when I was feeling better about the game, false positives arise.

Yes, we likely have false positives when the gunsmith targets the cop or vig to junk things up.

[Tammy]

Anyway Persivul do you have anything useful to say or reads on people that don't involve you should have read the setup or doing rqs means you're scum?

[Keybladewielder]

3. Regarding the Gunsmith's role, the Godfather DOES in fact show up as having a gun.

mod - how about the cop and vig? Can you confirm that they have guns (per the wiki)?

The cop and the vigilante both have guns.

[Persivul]

Who does that?

I did, and I believe some other people did.

And why are you acting like I'm supposed to?

Where was my scum motivation for reacting to the setup the way I did though?

In my experience, scum, who know the alignments, are less likely to have thoroughly read the setup than town. Further, while setup spec can be beneficial, it can also be used as a way to appear busy without really scum hunting.

[Tammy]

Who does that?

I did, and I believe some other people did.

A theme game is a theme game. I'm ready for shenanigans, sk, two teams, etc. Wasn't ready for four scum in a 13 player game, wouldn't expect that to happen here. I don't worry about setups. I don't care about setups; I care about playerlists.

And why are you acting like I'm supposed to?

Where was my scum motivation for reacting to the setup the way I did though?

In my experience, scum, who know the alignments, are less likely to have thoroughly read the setup than town. Further, while setup spec can be beneficial, it can also be used as a way to appear busy without really scum hunting.[/quote]

That's not even close to my experience. Scum tend to have a better handle on the setup than town, but really it's player dependent. I did, accidentally, read the setup or I wouldn't have been reacting to it.

But you were getting after me for not knowing the setup before hand. I couldn't know my alignment beforehand.

Have I not been scum hunting?

[Persivul]

Anyway Persivul do you have anything useful to say or reads on people that don't involve you should have read the setup or doing rqs means you're scum?

I give you town points for questioning molla on wanting to be scum. Like you, I figured he would answer as he did, but it was a good question.

Do you believe his answer? Do you think it could all be wifom?

[Tammy]

Anyway Persivul do you have anything useful to say or reads on people that don't involve you should have read the setup or doing rqs means you're scum?

I give you town points for questioning molla on wanting to be scum. Like you, I figured he would answer as he did, but it was a good question.

Do you believe his answer? Do you think it could all be wifom?

I believe his answer.

The answer is not alignment indicative, unfortunately, because it's just true for him as a player. The answer gets rid of the queasy feeling the original response gives me, but it puts him at neutral.

I've been pretty decent at reading BB in the past, so I'm hoping that he'll be a read I'll feel confident about. We haven't played together in a while, but iirc I've never mis-scum read him though I have mis-town read him once or twice - though I think only once knowing he was BB. The other times I thought he was town we were playing alted games and I didn't know who he was.

[Tammy]

What did you think about my point on Medea and what did you think about BB's vote on LUV?

[Keybladewielder]

Vote Count:

Gamma Emerald -
Reflektor -
randomidget -
Lil Uzi Vert - Indigo, BBMolla (L-5)
Empking -
Aj The Epic - Fate (L-6)
BBMolla -
shadonra -
Indigo -
Fate - Aj the Epic (L-6)
Persivul -
Tammy - Reflektor
Medea The Alien - Empking, Tammy, Persivul (L-4)
No Lynch -

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!
Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, randomidget, Lil Uzi Vert, shadonra, Medea The Alien

Day 1 Ends in:

(expired on 2017-01-21 15:16:12)

[Keybladewielder]

So apparently KBW treats Doctor like BG.

It has been quite sometime since I played a game with a doctor on this site. My brain's a tad rusty. Might've been a different site I got this confused with, haha.

[Fate]

My vote was serious

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My vote was serious

Why are you scum reading AJ? Tone?

[Fate]

Yeah and his post on this page wasnt really that quality either