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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:14 pm

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Votecount 5.3
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- Mathblade, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.


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Finally decided on Rule #27, will be added to the first post.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:15 pm

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FaerieFire prod timer relaxed so they can get their thesis or whatever it was done; prodding at 3 days, not 2.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:47 pm

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Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute. Math.
In post 909, MathBlade wrote:Mod correction RR N1 then no one.
You're telling me that Ironstove doctored RR? After this post Day 1
In post 286, ironstove wrote:Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.


Rule #16

Only to be followed up with this outcome Day 2, immediately after doctoring the guy?
In post 527, ironstove wrote:It's really making me rage that some people somehow know that the vote count is related to a random dice roll, without pages, I fucking say just lynch everyone who seems to know something that I don't BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TOWN

VOTE: RR

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (73) = 73
In post 528, ironstove wrote:-snip, was huge post with all the dice tags and votes-
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:02 pm

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In post 927, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute. Math.
In post 909, MathBlade wrote:Mod correction RR N1 then no one.
You're telling me that Ironstove doctored RR? After this post Day 1
In post 286, ironstove wrote:Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.


Rule #16

Only to be followed up with this outcome Day 2, immediately after doctoring the guy?
In post 527, ironstove wrote:It's really making me rage that some people somehow know that the vote count is related to a random dice roll, without pages, I fucking say just lynch everyone who seems to know something that I don't BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TOWN

VOTE: RR

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (73) = 73
In post 528, ironstove wrote:-snip, was huge post with all the dice tags and votes-
That is what the mod told me yes.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:05 pm

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Could be PR suspicions: you suspect them as scum but they could also be a town PR.
Hmmm
Math I'd like more input on this
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:08 pm

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In post 900, MathBlade wrote: Kill immune ascetic seems OP for Town. And why did you not claim ascetic?
I don't get your question. Do you mean why did I claim KI ascetic over ascetic? Or why did I not claim ascetic earlier?

[quote="In post 903
FaerieLord, you say you aren't scum. You didn't say you were town. Are you the third party then?
[/quote]

Nope. Town.
In post 905, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Also, FaerieLord, the key nights for blocking were N2 (we should have gotten a result but got none, and last night. Tiershift having a strong role doesn't matter, because they were the night kill. Tracker with 1 scum left is pretty much a cop, so if you are a scum roleblocker (or anyone else is), blocking me was the correct play.
Right, but scum didn't know you did nothing on N3. They either randomly targeted you three times and not N3, or made a concentrated effort to target you every night. If it's the latter, that's a lot of eggs in one basket. I mean, they could've, though I find it more likely that
if you're town
it was your role being bastardy.
In post 926, SnarkySnowman wrote:FaerieFire prod timer relaxed so they can get their thesis or whatever it was done; prodding at 3 days, not 2.
Thanks for that! Submitted it in time and everything, now I have a lot of time to waste.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:09 pm

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Fucked up the quotes. In the second quote block, there's some text that's mine too.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:08 am

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Ascetic is supposed to be claimed D1. Explain why you have no such claim.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:10 am

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What? Why? That makes no sense, especially in a bastard mod setup.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:03 am

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In post 933, FaerieLord wrote:What? Why? That makes no sense, especially in a bastard mod setup.
That especially makes sense in a bastard mod setup because people will already have a horrible time trusting their results. It is the same reason Miller is claimed D1 as well. If anything it becomes more important not less.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:12 am

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Miller makes perfect sense because it's giving wrong results. I'm giving no results. That's a major difference.
Apart from that, Miller can only have one person getting bad results (there isn't often more than 1 cop role). Anyone with a PR can confirm me.

So no, I disagree with your theory crafting. Claiming an early power role is the wrong call, cause if someone called a result on me in a heavy power role based game like this one, then I'd have had a good chance of having caught scum.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:08 am

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In post 935, FaerieLord wrote:Miller makes perfect sense because it's giving wrong results. I'm giving no results. That's a major difference.
Apart from that, Miller can only have one person getting bad results (there isn't often more than 1 cop role). Anyone with a PR can confirm me.

So no, I disagree with your theory crafting. Claiming an early power role is the wrong call, cause if someone called a result on me in a heavy power role based game like this one, then I'd have had a good chance of having caught scum.
...That isn't how that works. It isn't my theory crafting. It is years of site crafting.

Anyone with a PR who could have could also just be blocked. The fact you are claiming it now is sketchy as fuck. There is no way you are town.

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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:01 pm

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So Math wanted us to vote multiple times on one person, which the voting rules that were revealed show would have turned all of the votes on us, killing us instantly. Math was also super against showing the voting rules. Math was trying to get us killed off without anyone knowing why. Care to explain?
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:49 pm

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Well this was annoying to make. Red is scum, green is town, purple is 3rd party/Chairman, Orange is Cult.


End of Day 1 Votecount
BTD6_Maker
(9)[/b] -
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman,
123456789
[LYNCH]
Radical Rat
(5)
-
karnos
, Gamma Emerald,
shos,
BTD6_Maker

karnos
(4)
-
Chairman, Chairman
, FaerieLord
MathBlade (3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Gamma Emerald (3)
- Clumsy Phoenix,
Chairman, Chairman

Mas y Menos
(3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

shos
(2)
-
Radical Rat
,
SlySly

123456789
(2)
-
Chairman
,
Tiershift

SnarkySnowman
(2)
- MathBlade,
karnos


Not Voting (3)
-
Mas y Menos
*,
CloudKicker
*,
shos
*


Mod Notes

BTD6_Maker has been lynched!



BTD6_Maker
, a
Town Watcher
, was kicked out of the game Day 1.




End of Day 3 Votecount
123456789 (7)
- 123456789, 123456789, 123456789,[/color]
karnos
, Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord,
Cloudkicker
[LYNCH]
CloudKicker
(5)
-
123456789,
Gamma Emerald,
Tiershift
, MathBlade,
Mas y Menos

Mas y Menos
(1)
-
karnos

karnos
(1)
-
Chairman


Not Voting (0)
- Nobody!


Mod Notes

None!

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End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
-
Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1)
-
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

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Voting (0)
-
Deadline (0)
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Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald

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None!

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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:50 pm

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A sadness.
In post 938, Clumsy wrote:Well this was annoying to make. Red is scum, green is town, purple is 3rd party/Chairman, Orange is Cult.


End of Day 1 Votecount
BTD6_Maker
(9)[/b] -
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman,
123456789
[LYNCH]
Radical Rat
(5)
-
karnos
, Gamma Emerald,
shos,
BTD6_Maker

karnos
(4)
-
Chairman, Chairman
, FaerieLord
MathBlade (3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Gamma Emerald (3)
- Clumsy Phoenix,
Chairman, Chairman

Mas y Menos
(3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

shos
(2)
-
Radical Rat
,
SlySly

123456789
(2)
-
Chairman
,
Tiershift

SnarkySnowman
(2)
- MathBlade,
karnos


Not Voting (3)
-
Mas y Menos
*,
CloudKicker
*,
shos
*


Mod Notes

BTD6_Maker has been lynched!



BTD6_Maker
, a
Town Watcher
, was kicked out of the game Day 1.




End of Day 3 Votecount
123456789 (7)
- 123456789, 123456789, 123456789,[/color]
karnos
, Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord,
Cloudkicker
[LYNCH]
CloudKicker
(5)
-
123456789,
Gamma Emerald,
Tiershift
, MathBlade,
Mas y Menos

Mas y Menos
(1)
-
karnos

karnos
(1)
-
Chairman


Not Voting (0)
- Nobody!


Mod Notes

None!

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End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
-
Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1)
-
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

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Voting (0)
-
Deadline (0)
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Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald

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None!

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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:56 pm

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In post 937, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:So Math wanted us to vote multiple times on one person, which the voting rules that were revealed show would have turned all of the votes on us, killing us instantly. Math was also super against showing the voting rules. Math was trying to get us killed off without anyone knowing why. Care to explain?
Did before.

I did not think CK was scum and cards were stacked against town and I was Town doc so if I made a case and sounded townie I would then be killed and then chance to get out of this hole gone as I am Town doc. So I made sure my reads were known and said Gamma was my top read (TierShift was second) as a hint I would protect Gamma that night. It was the best I could do to catch scum and not be too townie that I could think of. If you lynched yourself and I was wrong I would have reevaluated my reads that night.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:58 pm

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Deadline looms.... a few days late, for the new year.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:02 pm

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End of Day 4 Votecount
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Tiershift
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Gamma Emerald (1) -
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

@MOD:
Is the bolded part of this VC correct?

Also, are we allowed to have a role distribution update?
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:03 pm

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@Math, If we lynched ourself and you were wrong, we would lose. The other head and I are looking into things and some things are not adding up- Can you spot anything about this game that seems off to you?
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:08 pm

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In post 943, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:@Math, If we lynched ourself and you were wrong, we would lose. The other head and I are looking into things and some things are not adding up- Can you spot anything about this game that seems off to you?
A lot seems "off" to me but it is hard to filter what is because the game is bastard and what is because it is truly "off". We would not lose in that case. It would become a battle of dominance between scum and the 3Ps. If you were lynched incorrectly then 2 scum alive in a 5 player game I am Town and so Mod and 3P would be left. In that case Mod+3P+Town hit a scum. NK has to hit 3P or scum lose. Lynch last scum with Mod town wins.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:08 pm

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In post 942, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:
End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
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Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1) -
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

@MOD:
Is the bolded part of this VC correct?

Also, are we allowed to have a role distribution update?

To my knowledge that VC is a typo.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:11 pm

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No to both.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:16 pm

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The "Let's Get This Tied Up" rule. What if that means that if we all put it so everybody has 1 vote except for 1 player, the mod will put their vote on that player to tie it up? If so, that's the only way to get the mod to vote, which seems pretty important at this point.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:16 pm

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That's assuming mod has a vote. 4 players if he doesn't have a vote. My money is on him not having a vote that isn't tied to rule-breaking (because who would he vote for and how?). I am 99% sure that mod doesn't have a free* vote, as that would break everything it means to be a mod. You would be choosing who would win. So no, mod doesn't have a free vote.


*Free meaning not tied to breaking rules resulting in votes. If that's what you're talking about, we can hardly rely on that.


So, it would be 1 town, 2 scum, 1 3rd party. Lynch can't happen on scum without an outside vote. Unless 3rd party or mod shenanigans, town does in fact lose.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:21 pm

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3:1:0:2:1 is the new role distribution.
My best guess is still Town:3rd party:Cult:Scum:Mod

Cloudkicker hangs

3:1:0:1:1

Dead townie

2:1:0:1:1

is what we're at.


2 town, 1 3rd party, 1 scum, 1 mod.
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