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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:48 pm

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In post 99, DiamondSentinel wrote:Additionally, they didn't act the first 2 nights because "they didn't read their role PM". Seriously?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:44 pm

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Gah...

SpyreX continues to be super scummy. And nobody is picking up on it.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:19 pm

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Should I leave LLD on the vote count? I've never had someone replace this close to hammer.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:34 pm

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I think that the general protocol is to leave the vote in place but extend the dl until a replacement is found, that way it leaves the game in the players hands and intact.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:37 pm

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^ usually give 24 hours I think for a replacement to catch up?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:15 pm

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In post 104, JaeReed wrote:^ usually give 24 hours I think for a replacement to catch up?
yeah, I think is usually the amount of time?

altho if camn gets hammered before a placement is found I think the hammer is a done deal and a replacement won't be needed. I think that is how it works.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:41 pm

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only if camn were the slot getting replaced ;p sadly, it's lld
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:44 pm

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but yeah extra time not needed in the event of a hammer before replacement, but should freeze the deadline at start of night so it doesn't give away if the slot is town/scum/has night actions
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:58 am

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I hope MoI learns to drop his ego at the door after this game. He's not the only reason town is losing, but he is a sizable part.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:23 pm

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And pisskop came in like clockwork with a Shitty hammer. Never going to play with him again. Heck, might even blacklist him from my games. He's chronically lurking, didn't read his rolecard. I have enough reason.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:24 pm

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Although Shadow bears some responsibility. The first thing you should always do when you replace in is remove your vote.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:10 pm

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Please welcome Camn to the dead thread!

Damn kid, you were doing a good job. I don't think there's a person in this thread that wasn't rooting for you. Sorry you got stuck with one of the, er, suckier towns I've seen.

So, confession time.

This game was a bit of a psychological experiment on my part.


I made this game with town CLEARLY having more power than the town. There were only 2 negative utility aspects of the town (3 if you count the post-restriction, but eh).
Meanwhile, there were no real strong scum roles. They had an enabled strongman, a hated untargetable, and a poisoner actress. They were at a clear dissadvantage.

However, the town were so focused on the fact that they HAD such strong roles, and refused to actually look for scum. They doubted the power they were given.

Now, this is definitely just an isolated case, but the point is this
is the clear trend in mafia games
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Cyberpunk Mafia, Machina Mafia (aside from one role, but that was just bad luck with RNG), and Saga Frontier ALL had town heavily outweighing the power of the scum roles, and scum STILL won each one!

No matter how you set up the roles,
scum will win more often than not
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:17 pm

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Once again, scum have to kill one person, or else they lose a member.

Regardless, however, this is pretty much end-game for town. It is so ridiculously unlikely for town to figure out that it's
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:18 pm

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I knew Spyrex was scum.

Soc had me fooled though!
Not early on. But he got better
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:21 pm

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Sorry you got lynched camn. Your lynch was ass if it's any consolation.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 78, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 72, pirate mollie wrote:still rooting for camn
I am rooting for camn as well; I think that her play this game is freaking awesome.
Love you nacho!
I would update never kill III night 1.

And Hi, Mollie!
FTR, I love Fate.
But the idea that I loved his PLAY..Especially when he first started... That is LUDICROUS. I hated it. Magna has his head so far up his butt this game it's priceless.

And my lynch WAS ass.

ALSO!
DS that extension was shit. The scum counted on PISSKOP for the lolhammer... And they failed, cuz he isn't reliable!
But you gave them an extra day :(
I would have totally shot Spyrex in the face.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:42 pm

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Extension was needed with the replacement.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:43 pm

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But yeah shadow should have unvoted
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:56 pm

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Or the replacement could have waited till night phase given the slots vote was already in play.
The extension helped the scum, not the replacement.

But I'm just grumpy.
Who knows, kraska might have hammered to avoid NL.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:56 pm

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But it's all good!

I have a great new game coming that I will mod.
Anyone wanna do setup review?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 101, DiamondSentinel wrote:SpyreX continues to be super scummy. And nobody is picking up on it.
I WAS
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:57 pm

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In post 11, pirate mollie wrote:it was cos she has this way of engaging that worms her way into my heart to where I don't want to hurt her, and while she is picking off my scummates 1 by 1
Omg this is the sweetest thing I have ever read.
It's all I ever want to be!
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:00 pm

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PS..That's how I knew
Spyrex was scum
. He is totally a sucker for my charms, and would never do me like that as town.

I'm glad he turned out to be scum...Cuz it explains his behaviour, and I don't have to follow him around and murder him forever. :)
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:05 pm

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sorry you got lynched camn :cry:

and lol, FATE'S PLAY. you trying being scum against him in a f2f game with him jumping up and down on the sofa screaming at the top of his lungs "MOLLIE IS SCUM!!! SHE'S SCUM LYNCH HER!!!" with a straight face. I mean I tried to hold it together for as long as I can but then I burst out laughing. I was lynched in a game, of at least 15? 20? it may even have been more than that, in under 5 seconds. I laughed so hard I had tears coming out of my eyes.

pissy has won scum MVP again I guess. also lying as town is the new site meta I mean I don't even like it as scum even tho it sure furthers my wc. its why I am limiting my games.

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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:44 pm

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>sniff<
I might cry. This dead thread is so much better than the game!

And sorry DS for getting evil in thread. I love talking about people's faces though....Especially when I've never seen them! The irony!
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