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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:13 am

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In post 473, -Grey- wrote:She seems to be invested in ensuring Alisae isn't run up. Makes sense if she's trying to protect a scum PR.
it also makes sense if she thinks alisae is town and is trying to prevent a mislynch.

why do you not consider that as a possibility?
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:14 am

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In post 475, TwoFace wrote:
In post 473, -Grey- wrote:She seems to be invested in ensuring Alisae isn't run up. Makes sense if she's trying to protect a scum PR.
it also makes sense if she thinks alisae is town and is trying to prevent a mislynch.

why do you not consider that as a possibility?
Why do you think I didn't?
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:18 am

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I think Alisae's self-conciousness is more likely to come from self-doubting town rather than scum. This is backed up by her lack of confidence in her own read on Gin.

Did you consider that possibility, Grey?

Not sure on Naomi. Tough to read.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:21 am

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In post 477, Human Sequencer wrote:I think Alisae's self-conciousness is more likely to come from self-doubting town rather than scum. This is backed up by her lack of confidence in her own read on Gin.

Did you consider that possibility, Grey?
That's actually a fair point.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:22 am

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In post 471, TwoFace wrote:I'll just ignore HS for now. his opinions can't be trusted
He makes more sense than you.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:23 am

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In post 476, -Grey- wrote:Why do you think I didn't?
cause 473 implies you don't, also an earlier post you made where you suggest they are scum together.

I don't see any post from you where you consider the possibility that naomi could just be town who is wrong.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:23 am

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In post 479, -Grey- wrote:He makes more sense than you.
did you read that post he made? no way
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:25 am

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In post 473, -Grey- wrote:A somebody town doesn't make them town.

I haven't liked Alisae's avoidance of wagons based on appearances (how being on them would make her look), and nothing she's done since then has convinced me otherwise.

The only other place I see myself voting today would be Naomi for the blatant white knighting. She seems to be invested in ensuring Alisae isn't run up. Makes sense if she's trying to protect a scum PR.
Hmm thats a weird way to put it. the last I spoke about things with Alisae you was sure we was on the same team. given the change of your stance did you change your thoughts? if so why didn't you unvote and switch to me? Cause If you think I'm white knighting that means you think Alisae is Green from that the time of the quoted message. I saw a miss lynch happening and I stepped in and gave them an out. given that Reds have no day talk It would make more sense to assume that I was assisting a red team mate out of a bad situation given your previous stance rather than going with white knighting. Can you tell me how you came to white knighting over just assisting a red team mate?
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:27 am

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In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
How do you know this?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:37 am

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yeah how do you know that?
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:54 am

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Grey, I'm confused in your logic. How can I be a null read if I was fighting Alisae who you think is scum, you can't tell me that was scum theatre, so I'm not seeing how you seeing her as scum trying to lynch me equates to me not being town if you actually logically think about it.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:55 am

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In post 485, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Grey, I'm confused in your logic. How can I be a null read if I was fighting Alisae who you think is scum, you can't tell me that was scum theatre, so I'm not seeing how you seeing her as scum trying to lynch me equates to me not being town if you actually logically think about it.
I'm not thinking about you at all. Hence the null.

I'll get around to you later, right now I have higher priorities.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:58 am

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Yeah, Gin is 100% bad townie.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:00 am

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In post 483, -Grey- wrote:
In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
How do you know this?
its not in the rules so Im assuming.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:02 am

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In post 488, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 483, -Grey- wrote:
In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
How do you know this?
its not in the rules so Im assuming.
"given" is not an assumption, it's a statement of fact.

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You slipped hard.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:03 am

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In post 487, Human Sequencer wrote:Yeah, Gin is 100% bad townie.
So what was the problem with that post?
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:04 am

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Sorry, I don't need to talk to bad townies/VIs, your opinion is irrelevant.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:06 am

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The fuck?

I want to at least improve so I can give better contributions. Don't just pass me off as the drunk townie, if you're town as well, then you'd want to work with me.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:10 am

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In post 489, -Grey- wrote:
In post 488, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 483, -Grey- wrote:
In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
How do you know this?
its not in the rules so Im assuming.
"given" is not an assumption, it's a statement of fact.

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You slipped hard.
No its in the normal guide lines that you have to state if there is day talk. So In my post I made the statement as if It was a true fact to make it more convincing and put greater pressure on you. As it is not stated in the rules we can assume there is no day talk however, it is still possible given the normal setup that communication between reds is possible (they might have masons or have an encryptor) But in the first post It wouldn't made my point as strongly if I used given its likely instead of given.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:12 am

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Nah, mafia can have day talk without it being in the rules via encryptor.

You have no excuse for knowing mafia doesn't have day talk.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:15 am

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naomi definitely is aware of encryptor role as it came up in space mafia

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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:16 am

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@Gin I don't think you're bad townie at all, I think you might be scum.
I was trying to see how you'd react to my accusations of your play. Because of your emotional reaction to Alisae, I assumed you would be the kind of person who is easily irritable. By being dismissive of you and your play, I was hoping to entice an emotional reaction out of you-- Something I believe would be more realistic if you were town, as opposed to scum who wouldn't really mind being called a bad townie.
I read as 'How do I get a townread from you?'.

In the end, I didn't get much out of it and you sit as a scumlean. I still think your reaction was definitely suspicious, though. Based on my interpretation of your personality I believe you'd be a lot more defensive of your own play in that situation if you were town.

I don't buy in to the Naomi scumslip, but it might be helpful supporting evidence later.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:16 am

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In post 493, Naomi-Tan wrote:it is still possible given the normal setup that communication between reds is possible (they might have masons or have an encryptor)
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:19 am

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In post 398, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay don't attack him for his playstyle. You just set my scumdar off big time.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:20 am

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In post 497, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 493, Naomi-Tan wrote:it is still possible given the normal setup that communication between reds is possible (they might have masons or have an encryptor)
Please read everything U_U
You read everything.
In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
This is not an assumption. It is presented as a statement of fact.
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