Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

[TwoFace]

Ok...

[TwoFace]

Anyway, would like to point everyone to my wiki page with an ~30% or so win rate.

Sometimes that's the case, but other times, there truly is a lot to talk about and not enough time to do so. Having less time just makes the scramble occur earlier would is only marginally better at best and most if the time, neutral or even worse imo.

Pedit: Here's some stats for you: I've played 30 games recorded on my wiki page with 8 wins, 22 losses, 27% winrate. I have been town 87% of the time. (26 town, 2 scum, and 2 other). And, I am not undermining anything. Show how I am undermining the town's goal. If you are going to actively throw shade on me, please research me first and tell me if this behavior differs from other games I've played.

Pedit2: VOTE: Gray. Also, those posts were awful. Humor or not, still awful.

I'd be ok lynching this guy also

[TwoFace]

I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.

This post reads scum to me. I don't really see a town motivation for counting on an inactive player to provide discussion. I mean, that's kind of the opposite of what "inactive" means! A townie who's frustrated with the discussion not going their way usually takes the initiative to provide that discussion themself, but Gamma doesn't. As scum hoping to hold back, his mindset here makes a lot more sense.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

How is this guy not the one at l-2.

That other dude did something worse? This is horrible posting.

[TwoFace]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.

Wtf

[TwoFace]

The two wagons(?) seem to be on omega and Grey and I don't get either of them

Neither do I.

Me 3

[Gamma Emerald]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.

Wtf

Do as I say.

[TwoFace]

I don't think Asphodel is a bad townie.

Agreed

[TwoFace]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.

Wtf

Do as I say.

I don't even like to read the games I play. Certainly don't want to read some other game.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think Asphodel is a bad townie.

Agreed

Scum or good townie then?

[Alisae]

TwoFace, why is All Alone scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.

Wtf

Do as I say.

I don't even like to read the games I play. Certainly don't want to read some other game.

First 5 pages or I power wagon you.

[TwoFace]

Scum don't need to read the thread as intently,

You've played with me before so how you can even say this is beyond me.

Then power wagon me cause I ain't reading it

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: TwoFace

[TwoFace]

Yeah this Aphro wagon is bad. All alone or ircher is where it's at.

[TwoFace]

110 This really Reads TvT..

Disagree. Ircher is scum.

Just need to find the 3rd. This game is too easy

[Asphodel]

Flubbernugget, can we go over your first few posts in the game? I feel like a guy with as much game experience as you would be less confused by the fact that early Day 1 reads are pretty weak. I'm also not a fan of your vote on me, seems like you're trying to manufacture reasons to sheep the wagon.

[Naomi-Tan]

Likely Green

-Grey- >> They have had fairly well thought out points and also seem to be kinda relaxed. Comes off well in interactions and can explain there thought process well when questioned. Seems like a fairly good bet there town.

HS >> Reminds me of there play in the last game we was in where they was town. I think this style comes from an honest place and I'll give them some space while things work out.
This was enough to give me a slight read but the 'soft claim' post pushed it up just a bit higher this play is too famlier to not be them green.

Greenish

Ircher >> not too keen on the pressure they gave Grey. It seems pretty clear to me where Grey was going with the things he said and I don't think it required probing that deeply and it left a bad after taste.
As there talk contuined by 110 I was sure it was TvT Irchers case was mostly based on Joke votes and explaining obvious things as well as Grays joke wagon push. I don't think reds would done this and its only something a green would do Bad green most likely.

Alisae >> Feels like miss guided Green If I had to guess there the type of player that takes a little to form an idea but once its there it sticks for a while. This isn't a bad thing but I feel there pushes are miss guided and go on slightly longer than needed and I feel that they should revaluate more often.

All Alone >> So they did a big post but I'm not really able to follow it too good yet. I'm gonna have to read it with fresh eyes and see If I can follow it. Given during my read I picked up on the turn about im gonna go with the benafit of the doubt

Null

Flubbernugget >> I havn't formed an opinon on them yet sorry 229 could be read a little opertunistic, but there is so little to go on that I think It would be unfair to judge based on that one post. more indepth talking would be appricated.

Asphodel >> Sigh.. Right where do I stand here, There actions look Green motivated they are asking probing questions and trying to look into things but the manner there doing it in feels very unskilled. I'm not sure if this is a false lead but right now given where my red reads are I will benafit of the doubt them. If they are red I'm pretty sure they'll do something later that'll reavel them or a PR will investigate them (if such a PR exists) Etierh way I think given more time we will get a clearer picture here.

Rainbowdash >> No Posts yet

krylea >> No Posts yet

Redish

TwoFace >> Very weak read. Just from not noticing the reaction test thing I did. He finds 180's stupidly Red aligned. So its normally something he would take note of and I am surpised he didn't take note of it without me having to point it out. This read will likely change TF is hard to pin down this early in the game. Eh I guess its what ever.

Likely Red

Gamma Emerald >> I don't feel they are really playing Most of there posts are either joking or vague. It seems to me that there trying to stay active while not really saying much (active lurking) Also miss understood the humour which I think is pretty poor play.
I also dislike 140 Where they seem to push the counter wagon of grays. Given I shifted to a town read this could be looked as redirecting pressure.
I'm reading 163 as distancing. Its this distancing that pushed my GNT read down a little.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic >> 114 This is a limp ass defence attempt by GNT If It turns out Gamma is red then This is their partner.

[Naomi-Tan]

Shoot forgot;
VOTE: Gamma Emerald I think I'm gonna park a vote here right now as Its the person I feel is most likely to be Red.

[Asphodel]

110 This really Reads TvT..

Disagree. Ircher is scum.

Just need to find the 3rd. This game is too easy

OK this may be a really dumb question but how do we know there are 3 scum? I mean, just from a game balance perspective that'd make sense but I'm going to feel really dumb if there's a role list somewhere that I'm missing.

[Naomi-Tan]

110 This really Reads TvT..

Disagree. Ircher is scum.

Just need to find the 3rd. This game is too easy

OK this may be a really dumb question but how do we know there are 3 scum? I mean, just from a game balance perspective that'd make sense but I'm going to feel really dumb if there's a role list somewhere that I'm missing.

3 Reds is the norm for normal mini's unless the reds have some crazy PR's

[Naomi-Tan]

Hey TF. Isn't it funny how we both have 2 people we think might be red and are looking for the third with no overlap xD

[TwoFace]

TwoFace >> Very weak read. Just from not noticing the reaction test thing I did. He finds 180's stupidly Red aligned. So its normally something he would take note of and I am surpised he didn't take note of it without me having to point it out. This read will likely change TF is hard to pin down this early in the game. Eh I guess its what ever.

You did a reaction test?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey TF. Isn't it funny how we both have 2 people we think might be red and are looking for the third with no overlap xD

What does this mean?

[TwoFace]

OK this may be a really dumb question but how do we know there are 3 scum? I mean, just from a game balance perspective that'd make sense but I'm going to feel really dumb if there's a role list somewhere that I'm missing.

13p games typically have 3 scum. There are exceptions but aren't very often

[Naomi-Tan]

TwoFace >> Very weak read. Just from not noticing the reaction test thing I did. He finds 180's stupidly Red aligned. So its normally something he would take note of and I am surpised he didn't take note of it without me having to point it out. This read will likely change TF is hard to pin down this early in the game. Eh I guess its what ever.

You did a reaction test?

Yeah kinda. It wasn't a very good one. I was trusting you to notice that between the two posts I linked in one they thought that Ircher was red then they one 180'd and acted like gray was the obvious red.